AZ AZ - Adrienne Salinas, 19, Tempe , 15 June 2013 - #6

[Sunshine95]

If it is okay to do, would someone mind posting the links to friends' and BF facebook pages? And AS' instagram and facebook?

I can imagine someone at the party giving AS a drink, hiding something in it, or offer her a pill saying it is something like aspirin, during the time she was back at apt before leaving in her car. Maybe they caught her on her way out and asked her to drop them off, the drugs started kicking in which caused her to be unable to drive, she wrecked with the person beside her.... and maybe it was that person who returned her stuff to the apt? Perhaps they were hoping to get her intoxicated enough to hook up with her, or perhaps they planned for worse? And didn't know about drug interaction effects with her meds, or underestimated them, and it was too much for her recovering body? I know date rape and date rap drugs are all too common, esp around young college girls.

But can't stop feeling uneasy about her "friends" seeming lack of activity and vocalizing about her.
Thanks to helpful WS folks I can now visually show you my feelings on this!
uke:
sick

 

[cluciano63]

We are not allowed to link any social media to people who are not named as POI's or suspects...

 

[Ixchel13]

So she got out of the car and he returned the phone she forgot...
then he calls the room mate.
She is coming your way... make sure she is ok.
THIS IS BEFORE
There is a single car wreck.

I really am not trying to be difficult..
thinking out of the box.

The 32 calls could be...
*from AS while walking to AmPm

* the roomie calling to get an explanation of...
why AS is bruised - incoherent -
what did you do what happened kinda thing (maybe the roomies phone was dead or she could not locate it.
* oh crap she was driving to your house and she's back -something is wrong with her she can't tell me where her car is... I'm putting her in a cab.... it's your fault she is like this you can deal with her.
* only done to make it look like AS didn't disappear in Scottsdale.

I mean come on... She is having a hushed fit on the property because she doesn't want to draw attn at the party and

minutes late bouncing off the walls
curbs and doing vanishing acts in the streets...
people that don't even know her are calling 911 yet the roomies are saying it was kinda normal Adrienne but... not...

I think the first 911 call by a stranger was just a little too late.

All her clothes, her shoes ID and wallet were left at the apt.
No crime scene in the area.
No signs of a struggle.
No body found.

Ugg the whole cell phone thing bugs me! They are not surgically attached to the user.

He could have returned his cell at his home after 3:22 returned to the area and not turned it on until 12pm the next day.

It doesn't mean he was unable to move about without it. It doesn't prove he was sleeping.

Also he txts AS around noon the next day and says "call me when you can"

UHH.... how about ANSWER YOUR PHONE I AM NOT KIDDING!!!!
hey! you said you were coming over... that was 9 hrs ago where are you! are you ok????
call me ASAP!!!!!!!


nope - call ... when you can... meh


Sorry stories don't make any sense..

What happened to Adrienne?


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I've been reading this thread for the first time and this sounds eerily like Lauren.

 

[Sunshine95]

We are not allowed to link any social media to people who are not named as POI's or suspects...

Thanks so much! I am allowed to make comments based on what I read on her FB profile, or quote from there? I find the book and movie she "Liked" interesting, from a psychology standpoint- she may be into "bad" boys, feel different from others and that she has had to fight for herself in her life, etc...
Also, the first in the list of other "Likes" tells me she prob has experience partying and makes her coming back to the party after the wreck and not talking to anyone at all seems stranger...
Sorry so cryptic just trying to be careful and respectful of rules...

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

Ha! I said 1000. 10x is probably correct. I used to take Valium for anxiety. No Dr will prescribe it now.
Then I took serax. That worked well.

They put me on Xanax but even 1/2 tab gorks me out for over 24hours.

Now I just deal with the anxiety and the menopausal symptoms don't help! There are times I don't sleep for 2- 2 1/2 days!!

I liked my Valium. I didn't abuse it.
But since others did it's no longer an option.
Is it fair? No. But if it saves one teens life ... I can live with it.

I have wondered if. AS was on any meds that someone would be willing to kill her to get them.
We know she was very ill.
I worry about that.
A lot...

Adrienne what happened to you?

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Yes, valium aka "Mother's Little Helper" (Rolling Stones song)....the preferred choice of moms in the 1960-1970's.
Yeah, it is addictive but not more so than many other drugs. IMHO, it kept a lot of marriages together during the major change that women's roles went through during some chaotic decades.
It got a bad rap, maybe even some anti-fems pushed for the "ban".
moo

 

[SandSage]

Too. damned. quiet. ullhair:

 

[gngr~snap]

This is all moo, but on AS 's instagram she quotes part of a song.
She writes something like

"just too close to love you... I'll be on my way.."

I can't get it out of my head!!!
I was on the radio when I was out running errands earlier and it hit me.
I really think she was trying to break up with someone.
Or at least feeling like maybe it was time to move on.
Sure sounds like that was what the argument was about.

I think there may be another bf in this picture that we haven't heard about.

Anyway here are the lyrics to the song.
http://m.metrolyrics.com/too-close-lyrics-alex-clare.html


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[cluciano63]

If anything, I feel like the BF was playing the field and she wanted a commitment. But I don't like to read too much into what they post on SM. A lot of times it is just song lyrics they happen to like. I have five nieces around this age.

 

[SandSage]

This is all moo, but on AS 's instagram she quotes part of a song.
She writes something like

"just too close to love you... I'll be on my way.."

I can't get it out of my head!!!
I was on the radio when I was out running errands earlier and it hit me.
I really think she was trying to break up with someone.
Or at least feeling like maybe it was time to move on.
Sure sounds like that was what the argument was about.

I think there may be another bf in this picture that we haven't heard about.

Anyway here are the lyrics to the song.
http://m.metrolyrics.com/too-close-lyrics-alex-clare.html


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Considering she and BF had an on-again-off-again relationship...

Maybe one was more off and one was more on this time. Hard to say which was which.

Not an easy read but just a thought about "that night"... http://nivea.psycho.univ-paris5.fr/ECS/ECS-CB.html

(I guess I should explain... it is possible that unusual things were happening right under the noses of everyone there but if the chaos in the environment was great enough, those "things" may have seen normal if not totally benign at the time... doesn't mean anything really... just searching for anything at this point. *le sigh* )

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

She could've had a secret *very local* bf....one that was more the "bad boy" type. The type that might surprise friends and family if they were to find out. This may have been the back-up guy. Sounds like she could've found that useful since the regular bf and her broke up a lot throughout the years.

Could this other "secret bf" live very close to the AMPM and that's why she wanted to have the cab pick her up there?

She wasn't very happy that night---seemed confused.

Perhaps she needed the reassurance of the other "secret bf" before she went over to tell the bf that it's through. It's over. So maybe she stopped over there first?

And maybe someone knows who visited her when she was sick in the hospital....any guy that came around to visit that family and friends weren't so familiar with?

moo & speculation

moo

 

[cluciano63]

If she did have a "secret" boyfriend LE surely knows, as she would have to be in contact with him somehow. There would be a trail.

 

[cluciano63]

If this IS going cold...I blame LE for the almost complete silence.

 

[gngr~snap]

If this IS going cold...I blame LE for the almost complete silence.

It is sad... really it seems like the smarter criminals are caught.
I think of all the missing children Baby Lisa... Baby Gabriel... Haleigh Cummings... that are never found and the teens like Hailey Dunn & Morgan Harrington that eventually are and
No One is brought to justice.

That poor family has already lost a loved one and his killer is walking around free.
Now Adrienne...

It's just dad gum depressing!!!

(Well not yet anyway)
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[SandSage]

If this IS going cold...I blame LE for the almost complete silence.

Just emailed a couple of friends who write for Phoenix NewTimes - see if they can pick it up...

 

[Bernina]

Ok, dang it all! Some of you peeps still have me awake! :scared:
So here goes my newest theory:
AS goes with BF to his place
Party Guest or unknown "borrows" AS car without her knowledge after she leaves.
AS walks away from BF's (she's pi$$ed) (Why doesn't she call a taxi?? Hmmmm)
BF picks her up, AS bails
BF calls roomate, look for AS, and tells her he's done for the night, shutting his phone off
AS returns to apt
Party guest or ? wrecks vehicle, dumps it on side street so they have time to figure out how to fix the situation
Party guest/? shows back up at apt.
AS: "You did WHAT to my car?" (She's still pi$$ed because of BF)
Fight ensues, party has broken up, just stragglers, so nobody really sees it (maybe in the bedroom)
AS gets killed in the process.
(Phone silence from time of BF and AS leaving the party till calls at 4:30. Maybe BF and AS didn't have anything more to say and he told her he was shutting off his phone)
Get rid of body (they have from 3:00 to 4:30 to do it? or wait til the next night? Put her in the closet?))
Multiple calls to BF phone, but they know he turned it off, make her look alive
Calls to cab, don't have him pick up at apt or he'll be knocking on doors looking for AS
TXT BF "I'm coming over" (Now, why didn't she txt when she was supposedly DRIVING over in her car?)
Call back cab "In a minute"
Shut off phone, ditch it.
"We're all wasted so we're just taking care of business and not thinking it through."
Car wrecker leaves keys in room.
Give description to LE of clothes BF last saw her in, can't find wallet (maybe it's on the body? Hey, we were still wasted).
OMG, found clothes and wallet, "gee, we didn't see her come back and change, we were all pretty wasted" Ok, that was close.

NOW, I think I can go to sleep!

 

[gngr~snap]

Just emailed a couple of friends who write for Phoenix NewTimes - see if they can pick it up...

I really think this case would have gotten more media attention if it had happened during the school year.
MAYBE with students returning to ASU people will start asking more questions and the media will follow her case closer.
As a parent I would want to know that a random killer wasn't lurking in the shadows watching my daughter and her friends waiting to pounce...

Yet what have we heard?
~~©®!©k€t$~~

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[cluciano63]

I really think this case would have gotten more media attention if it had happened during the school year.
MAYBE with students returning to ASU people will start asking more questions and the media will follow her case closer.
As a parent I would want to know that a random killer wasn't lurking in the shadows watching my daughter and her friends waiting to pounce...

Yet what have we heard?
~~©®!©k€t$~~

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We thought the same thing with Lauren, i.e that when school started, the case would be "bigger"...barely happened. Also Adrienne did not attend the university, did she?

 

[gngr~snap]

If she did have a "secret" boyfriend LE surely knows, as she would have to be in contact with him somehow. There would be a trail.

There would be.
I'm thinking about all the time she had on her hands while she was recovering from her illness.
She could have gotten on any number of dating sites to fill her time.
As much as I hate to say it - this is looking more and more random.

I just knew it had to be someone in her circle of friends - hoped maybe she had gone to a safehouse for battered women- took off to California or Mexico, but as the days add up I am at a loss. Unless she is in a deep freezer or buried on someone's property, she is no longer in the area.
Assuming she is deceased... (not liking that option but it's the reality now)
How do these "people" know how to hide bodies so well?
Where is Susan Powell?
Stacy Peterson?
And so many others!!
I get the heebie jeebies going by storage places... how can all these adult women go ~poof~???


Ehh... time for a new thread...
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[Public_Hysteria]

Almost 2 months... Surely it would put LE at an advantage to release some more information? It doesn't seem to be getting them anywhere, and I doubt we know everything they do. At least leaking snippits of info could prompt the public's memory on something they may have seen or heard around this time. I will happily eat my words if they are working on an arrest behind the scenes, but too many cases have gone 'cold' only a month or two in that are still unsolved to this day, so I just don't know anymore.

Where are you, Adrienne?

 

[gngr~snap]

We thought the same thing with Lauren, i.e that when school started, the case would be "bigger"...barely happened. Also Adrienne did not attend the university, did she?

No, she didn't attend. She just lived in the area.

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