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@Bluedreamer please provide links to these photos (per TOS). Thanks!
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One more question about the Jeep :
Were there any reports of fences/animals/structures/etc damaged by an apparent hit and run around this time?
That picture in the bushes is strangely unsettling. I wonder who took it, and if the original was so grainy, or if it’s been deliberately fuzzed.
Were there any reports of fences/animals/structures/etc damaged by an apparent hit and run around this time?
That picture in the bushes is strangely unsettling. I wonder who took it, and if the original was so grainy, or if it’s been deliberately fuzzed.
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Hey which photos are you looking for? I included the ones i was talking about i think!
edit- Oh i get what you mean, These were photos taken off of David's lives on youtube, I will look for the videos now but i think i sourced it in previous iterations as well, either way I think Cenazoic got the idea.
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Not that i know of, there was an interesting detail regarding the 2nd well site gate, but it's kind of a stretch. The 2nd well site gate as of February 2021 looked like this-
When David Robinson got into town around the 26th of June 2021, it had changed-
The gate was changed between Feb 2021 and June of 2021 for some reason. The only reason i find it interesting is because the original one had red paint that would align with where the red transfer of paint was on Daniel's Jeep Renegade, It's at least mildly interesting.
It was taken by a guy named Tyler who originally posted about it on Facebook, his wife/gf had taken it from a moving car, I think that's as clear as it ever got. I don't know if it was Daniel's jeep, but the detectives explanation on the wheel color difference makes no sense and it's a weird coincidence, being so close to the Verrado well site.
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36-min interview with David Robinson from last month. Some interesting tidbits:
- Some commentary about Ken around 12 minute mark;
- Buckeye still hasn’t tested anything since custody exchange in April 2025 (~18 minute);
- around 22:10 he briefly mentions that his investigator discovered imprints from where the windshield had been beaten in (II don’t think I’d heard that before)
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- Some commentary about Ken around 12 minute mark;
- Buckeye still hasn’t tested anything since custody exchange in April 2025 (~18 minute);
- around 22:10 he briefly mentions that his investigator discovered imprints from where the windshield had been beaten in (II don’t think I’d heard that before)
"It's Not A Cold Case" — Father makes 2,000-Mile journey to search for missing son
David Robinson wants everyone to know his son's case is anything but cold. Daniel Robinson went missing in the desert of Buckeye, Arizona in June 2021. The 23-y
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My biggest problem with Ken is how close he must have gotten to the ravine where the Jeep was eventually found. He said it was raining and the tracks were visible, only Daniel's. If that's the case, and he drove through that gate, kept driving awhile longer and then climbed a hill, not being able to find Daniel, then it puts him give or take a mile away, probably less.36-min interview with David Robinson from last month. Some interesting tidbits:
- Some commentary about Ken around 12 minute mark;
- Buckeye still hasn’t tested anything since custody exchange in April 2025 (~18 minute);
- around 22:10 he briefly mentions that his investigator discovered imprints from where the windshield had been beaten in (II don’t think I’d heard that before)
"It's Not A Cold Case" — Father makes 2,000-Mile journey to search for missing son
David Robinson wants everyone to know his son's case is anything but cold. Daniel Robinson went missing in the desert of Buckeye, Arizona in June 2021. The 23-y
Shortly down the road Daniel's jeep would have had to veer offroad up a hill (there was no road there when Daniel first disappeared, I've sourced that photo in previous posts). They had some pretty big searches 2 days later, it should have been really easy to follow Daniel's tracks the rest of the way, considering Daniels Jeep would have been making its own road, in the rain, in the mud.
Anything tested now isn't really admissible either way in my opinion. The chain of custody has been broken, and there is video of Jeff McGrath laying the clothes out in an uncontrolled environment with a commercial fan in the background.
According to David's latest live, the new detective on the case sprayed the clothing found on the ground with a substance to check for blood and didn't find any.
Yeah there are actually 2 indents on the windshield, this video goes over the damage and how the PI believes it didn't match where the vehicle was found and that the indents came from a blunt object-
Missing geologist 'was obsessed with a woman he barely knew'
Missing geologist Daniel Robinson was obsessed with a woman he barely knew and disappeared just hours after sending her a desperate final text message, DailyMail.com can exclusively reveal.
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Let's really lay out what the official narrative requires you to believe if you think Daniel Robinson was mentally unwell and walked off naked into the desert, never to be seen again.
In June of 2021 Daniel Robinson is living his life. He has been working for around two years for Matrix New World as a hydro-geologist. He's building a brand new gaming computer with help from his friend Roger. He has plans for his family to come visit him in July.
Then he meets a girl via Instacart. According to the official narrative this encounter triggers a downward spiral that ultimately costs him his life, within about 12 days give or take. He becomes fixated. She tells him to leave her alone, he keeps making her uncomfortable . His mental state deteriorates over the following weeks to the point where his coworkers notice something is wrong.
The night before Daniel goes missing the spiral apparently reaches a breaking point. He texts the girl see or never see you again, then parks his Jeep miles from a Waffle House near his apartment and walks there in the Arizona heat, sweating profusely, acting paranoid, still hungry though. A waitress who has seen him before says he isn't acting like himself. He sends an SOS text to his sister. Then he orders food, gets an Uber home, and tells his sister it was a false alarm. He goes to bed.
The next morning, according to the official narrative, Daniel wakes up after what should have been a sleepless night following a near mental breakdown.
Daniel arrives at the first well site. Despite having had a mental break the night before, despite being sleep deprived(phone data puts him out late that night), despite whatever emotional state drove him to send an SOS to his sister just hours earlier he is coherent and professional enough to photograph lithology logs and conduct an 8 minute phone call with the head of the Matrix Arizona branch. Not his immediate supervisor, the top of the chain, for 8 minutes, about work. Without raising any concern.
He then receives a call telling him not to come to the second well site yet. He drives to a gas station, makes a small purchase, calm enough to go inside and buy something, and then heads to the second well site, 23 minutes down the road.
At 9:30am he meets Ken Elliott for the first time. According to Ken, Daniel spends 15 minutes alternating between talking about technical details, the weather and staring into the distance asking Ken if he wants to go home or go back to Phoenix. Daniel waves goodbye, walks to his Jeep, and drives away.
Daniel drives away from the second well site heading south. He comes to a junction. Instead of turning east toward the main road and civilization, the direction he came from, the direction back to Phoenix, where he asked Ken if he wanted to go, he turns the opposite way.
Somewhere along that route one of his socks, either on his foot or somewhere in his vehicle, ends up near the second well site road. Not near the ravine where he allegedly crashes, back near where he just was. Maybe blowing out the window even though it was raining and all of the windows in Daniel's jeep were found rolled up besides the broken one (with the official narrative being it broke during the crash into the ravine).
He keeps driving west. He reaches a gate and goes through it. He drives less than a mile further before suddenly leaving the road entirely and driving up toward a ravine in the rain, where he crashes his Jeep at some point between 10-1030am. After he crashes his jeep in a rollover into the ravine, he takes a blunt object and makes 2 impressions on the windshield, for reasons unknown.
The Jeep crashes hard enough to deploy the airbags and trigger the automatic fuel shutoff system. Daniel is now in a crashed vehicle in a remote desert ravine in June in Arizona with a phone that has service and is receiving calls.
He does not call 911, he does not call his father, he does not call Roger, he does not call anyone.
Instead he attempts to restart the vehicle more than 40 times. The fuel shutoff override sequence is specific to his Jeep model and is found in the owner's manual, that manual ends up outside the glove box. After more than 40 attempts Daniel somehow successfully restarts the vehicle while it is on its side in a ravine(PI said this wasn't even possible). The wheels spin,11 miles accumulate on the odometer, then Daniel gives up.
Then instead of climbing out the open window, Daniel decides to crawl to the back of the overturned vehicle instead and kick his sunroof out, exiting that way.
He takes his clothes off. He removes his boots, one of which ends up stuck underneath the vehicle. And he walks out into the Arizona desert in June without clothing, without water, without calling for help on a phone that still has service, and is never seen again.
Professional search teams with helicopters, fixed wing aircraft, and ground crews in 4x4 vehicles subsequently search the area based on Ken's account, which places them within a mile or so of the ravine with visible tire tracks to follow in recently rained on desert terrain. They find nothing. according to the official narrative the Jeep is right there, less than a mile away. With visible tracks leading to it, and multiple professional search efforts using aerial assets find nothing.
A rancher who works that land every day later says the vehicle wasn't there. Police had told him they already searched that area. The Jeep eventually appears in the ravine oddly clean and is found by that rancher on July 19th, nearly four weeks after Daniel disappeared.
No forensics are conducted at the scene despite 18 hours on site. David is not notified for over 24 hours. The day after he is notified he is told to take possession immediately or incur storage fees. When his PI announces plans to send the infotainment data for independent analysis Buckeye PD refuses to release it from a vehicle they had already legally transferred to David. Attorneys have to intervene.
That is pretty much what you have to believe if you accept the official narrative, or a slight variation of it, simultaneously. In my opinion what I just laid out is not a plausible account of what happened to Daniel Robinson. Daniel was acting like a professional that entire morning. He photographed logs. He made calls. He bought something at a gas station. He drove to a job site. I think something happened to him that morning but i don't think it was a mental break.
For those of you that still believe the official narrative, I have some questions for you.
Explain why one of Daniel's socks was found back near the second well site and not near the ravine where he allegedly crashed. Daniel was either wearing that sock or it was in his vehicle. Either way it has no business being back near the last place Ken saw him alive if Daniel simply drove away and crashed less than a mile later.
Explain the windshield indentations. The official story is a single rollover into the ravine. The PI who physically examined the vehicle said the damage didn't match that scenario. The Jeep appeared to have rolled down the hill and tipped on its side rather than a full rollover (there is also no damage to the top of the vehicle). So where did the windshield damage come from and why doesn't it match the scene?
Explain the manual. Daniel's owner's manual was found outside the glove box next to a crashed Jeep with a deployed airbag fuel shutoff system and 40 plus ignition attempts. That specific Jeep model has a specific override sequence to restart after airbag deployment. It's in the manual. Someone needed that manual to figure out how to restart that vehicle. If it was Daniel, why would a man in a mental health crisis methodically work through his owner's manual looking for an override sequence instead of calling 911, calling his father, calling Roger, calling anyone on a phone that still had service and was still receiving calls?
Explain the 40 plus ignition attempts. The vehicle was found in Drive. If the ravine was the only place that Jeep ever crashed, restarting it from inside a ravine on its side while in Drive is nearly impossible. Yet someone attempted it more than 40 times before eventually succeeding at 12:54pm, nearly 3 hours after the phone stopped moving.
Explain the 12:54pm key on event. Mile IQ placed Daniel's phone stationary at the ravine from 10:02am onward. The phone never moved. It still had service. It was still receiving calls. At 12:54pm the infotainment system recorded a key on event. 11 miles were then driven without Daniel's phone moving. Someone started that Jeep at 12:54pm and drove it 11 miles while Daniel's phone sat stationary in the ravine. Then the Jeep came back. And the phone was found inside it.
Explain why Daniel, instead of calling for help on a working phone in a crashed vehicle in the Arizona desert in June, chose to pull out his manual, attempt to restart his Jeep more than 40 times, eventually succeed, let the wheels spin for 11 miles worth of odometer distance, and then strip naked and walk off into the desert without telling a single person where he was.
Explain how Daniel was coherent and professional enough to photograph lithology logs, conduct an 8 minute phone call with the head of his company, wait 45 minutes at the first well site, stop at a gas station and make a purchase, drive to a second well site and spend 15 minutes with Ken , all of this after a near mental breakdown the night before on little to no sleep, and then suddenly deteriorate so completely within 15 minutes of leaving Ken that he drove into a ravine and never called anyone.
Explain why professional search teams with helicopters, fixed wing aircraft and ground crews in 4x4 vehicles, operating off Ken's account which placed them within less than a mile of the ravine with fresh visible tire tracks in recently rained on desert terrain, found nothing
Explain why the rancher who works that land every day said the vehicle wasn't there when police told him they had already searched that area. And why the rancher said the vehicle was too clean to have been out there for nearly a month when it was eventually found.
Explain why Buckeye PD refused to release Daniel's vehicle they had already legally transferred to Daniel's father. And why it took attorneys to force them to hand over data from a vehicle they no longer had legal custody of.
Explain why the investigation that produced 128 pages examining mental health, romantic obsession, random strangers, wild animals and a man missing the wrong arm never once asked what Daniel Robinson was logging on the morning he disappeared. Never once asked about the 8 minute phone call to the head of his company. Never once followed up on why the boring log for that well was completed by someone else the day after Daniel vanished. Never once treated his professional work as relevant to understanding what happened to him.
Some of these things individually might have an explanation, I'll give you that. But try explaining all of them at the same time with a single coherent alternative to foul play.
In June of 2021 Daniel Robinson is living his life. He has been working for around two years for Matrix New World as a hydro-geologist. He's building a brand new gaming computer with help from his friend Roger. He has plans for his family to come visit him in July.
Then he meets a girl via Instacart. According to the official narrative this encounter triggers a downward spiral that ultimately costs him his life, within about 12 days give or take. He becomes fixated. She tells him to leave her alone, he keeps making her uncomfortable . His mental state deteriorates over the following weeks to the point where his coworkers notice something is wrong.
The night before Daniel goes missing the spiral apparently reaches a breaking point. He texts the girl see or never see you again, then parks his Jeep miles from a Waffle House near his apartment and walks there in the Arizona heat, sweating profusely, acting paranoid, still hungry though. A waitress who has seen him before says he isn't acting like himself. He sends an SOS text to his sister. Then he orders food, gets an Uber home, and tells his sister it was a false alarm. He goes to bed.
The next morning, according to the official narrative, Daniel wakes up after what should have been a sleepless night following a near mental breakdown.
Daniel arrives at the first well site. Despite having had a mental break the night before, despite being sleep deprived(phone data puts him out late that night), despite whatever emotional state drove him to send an SOS to his sister just hours earlier he is coherent and professional enough to photograph lithology logs and conduct an 8 minute phone call with the head of the Matrix Arizona branch. Not his immediate supervisor, the top of the chain, for 8 minutes, about work. Without raising any concern.
He then receives a call telling him not to come to the second well site yet. He drives to a gas station, makes a small purchase, calm enough to go inside and buy something, and then heads to the second well site, 23 minutes down the road.
At 9:30am he meets Ken Elliott for the first time. According to Ken, Daniel spends 15 minutes alternating between talking about technical details, the weather and staring into the distance asking Ken if he wants to go home or go back to Phoenix. Daniel waves goodbye, walks to his Jeep, and drives away.
Daniel drives away from the second well site heading south. He comes to a junction. Instead of turning east toward the main road and civilization, the direction he came from, the direction back to Phoenix, where he asked Ken if he wanted to go, he turns the opposite way.
Somewhere along that route one of his socks, either on his foot or somewhere in his vehicle, ends up near the second well site road. Not near the ravine where he allegedly crashes, back near where he just was. Maybe blowing out the window even though it was raining and all of the windows in Daniel's jeep were found rolled up besides the broken one (with the official narrative being it broke during the crash into the ravine).
He keeps driving west. He reaches a gate and goes through it. He drives less than a mile further before suddenly leaving the road entirely and driving up toward a ravine in the rain, where he crashes his Jeep at some point between 10-1030am. After he crashes his jeep in a rollover into the ravine, he takes a blunt object and makes 2 impressions on the windshield, for reasons unknown.
The Jeep crashes hard enough to deploy the airbags and trigger the automatic fuel shutoff system. Daniel is now in a crashed vehicle in a remote desert ravine in June in Arizona with a phone that has service and is receiving calls.
He does not call 911, he does not call his father, he does not call Roger, he does not call anyone.
Instead he attempts to restart the vehicle more than 40 times. The fuel shutoff override sequence is specific to his Jeep model and is found in the owner's manual, that manual ends up outside the glove box. After more than 40 attempts Daniel somehow successfully restarts the vehicle while it is on its side in a ravine(PI said this wasn't even possible). The wheels spin,11 miles accumulate on the odometer, then Daniel gives up.
Then instead of climbing out the open window, Daniel decides to crawl to the back of the overturned vehicle instead and kick his sunroof out, exiting that way.
He takes his clothes off. He removes his boots, one of which ends up stuck underneath the vehicle. And he walks out into the Arizona desert in June without clothing, without water, without calling for help on a phone that still has service, and is never seen again.
Professional search teams with helicopters, fixed wing aircraft, and ground crews in 4x4 vehicles subsequently search the area based on Ken's account, which places them within a mile or so of the ravine with visible tire tracks to follow in recently rained on desert terrain. They find nothing. according to the official narrative the Jeep is right there, less than a mile away. With visible tracks leading to it, and multiple professional search efforts using aerial assets find nothing.
A rancher who works that land every day later says the vehicle wasn't there. Police had told him they already searched that area. The Jeep eventually appears in the ravine oddly clean and is found by that rancher on July 19th, nearly four weeks after Daniel disappeared.
No forensics are conducted at the scene despite 18 hours on site. David is not notified for over 24 hours. The day after he is notified he is told to take possession immediately or incur storage fees. When his PI announces plans to send the infotainment data for independent analysis Buckeye PD refuses to release it from a vehicle they had already legally transferred to David. Attorneys have to intervene.
That is pretty much what you have to believe if you accept the official narrative, or a slight variation of it, simultaneously. In my opinion what I just laid out is not a plausible account of what happened to Daniel Robinson. Daniel was acting like a professional that entire morning. He photographed logs. He made calls. He bought something at a gas station. He drove to a job site. I think something happened to him that morning but i don't think it was a mental break.
For those of you that still believe the official narrative, I have some questions for you.
Explain why one of Daniel's socks was found back near the second well site and not near the ravine where he allegedly crashed. Daniel was either wearing that sock or it was in his vehicle. Either way it has no business being back near the last place Ken saw him alive if Daniel simply drove away and crashed less than a mile later.
Explain the windshield indentations. The official story is a single rollover into the ravine. The PI who physically examined the vehicle said the damage didn't match that scenario. The Jeep appeared to have rolled down the hill and tipped on its side rather than a full rollover (there is also no damage to the top of the vehicle). So where did the windshield damage come from and why doesn't it match the scene?
Explain the manual. Daniel's owner's manual was found outside the glove box next to a crashed Jeep with a deployed airbag fuel shutoff system and 40 plus ignition attempts. That specific Jeep model has a specific override sequence to restart after airbag deployment. It's in the manual. Someone needed that manual to figure out how to restart that vehicle. If it was Daniel, why would a man in a mental health crisis methodically work through his owner's manual looking for an override sequence instead of calling 911, calling his father, calling Roger, calling anyone on a phone that still had service and was still receiving calls?
Explain the 40 plus ignition attempts. The vehicle was found in Drive. If the ravine was the only place that Jeep ever crashed, restarting it from inside a ravine on its side while in Drive is nearly impossible. Yet someone attempted it more than 40 times before eventually succeeding at 12:54pm, nearly 3 hours after the phone stopped moving.
Explain the 12:54pm key on event. Mile IQ placed Daniel's phone stationary at the ravine from 10:02am onward. The phone never moved. It still had service. It was still receiving calls. At 12:54pm the infotainment system recorded a key on event. 11 miles were then driven without Daniel's phone moving. Someone started that Jeep at 12:54pm and drove it 11 miles while Daniel's phone sat stationary in the ravine. Then the Jeep came back. And the phone was found inside it.
Explain why Daniel, instead of calling for help on a working phone in a crashed vehicle in the Arizona desert in June, chose to pull out his manual, attempt to restart his Jeep more than 40 times, eventually succeed, let the wheels spin for 11 miles worth of odometer distance, and then strip naked and walk off into the desert without telling a single person where he was.
Explain how Daniel was coherent and professional enough to photograph lithology logs, conduct an 8 minute phone call with the head of his company, wait 45 minutes at the first well site, stop at a gas station and make a purchase, drive to a second well site and spend 15 minutes with Ken , all of this after a near mental breakdown the night before on little to no sleep, and then suddenly deteriorate so completely within 15 minutes of leaving Ken that he drove into a ravine and never called anyone.
Explain why professional search teams with helicopters, fixed wing aircraft and ground crews in 4x4 vehicles, operating off Ken's account which placed them within less than a mile of the ravine with fresh visible tire tracks in recently rained on desert terrain, found nothing
Explain why the rancher who works that land every day said the vehicle wasn't there when police told him they had already searched that area. And why the rancher said the vehicle was too clean to have been out there for nearly a month when it was eventually found.
Explain why Buckeye PD refused to release Daniel's vehicle they had already legally transferred to Daniel's father. And why it took attorneys to force them to hand over data from a vehicle they no longer had legal custody of.
Explain why the investigation that produced 128 pages examining mental health, romantic obsession, random strangers, wild animals and a man missing the wrong arm never once asked what Daniel Robinson was logging on the morning he disappeared. Never once asked about the 8 minute phone call to the head of his company. Never once followed up on why the boring log for that well was completed by someone else the day after Daniel vanished. Never once treated his professional work as relevant to understanding what happened to him.
Some of these things individually might have an explanation, I'll give you that. But try explaining all of them at the same time with a single coherent alternative to foul play.
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Has anyone heard an update from the private investigator? What theory are they leaning towards, and what investigations has he done into Daniel's employer? Obviously, the police didnt handle evidence properly, and many things don't align. It is obvious to me Daniel was going through something emotionally, his family shared pictures of his apartment, and noted this was not normal for him, it showed the mental state he was in, I've seen similar with someone I know personally. His odd behavior with the girl he met, the odd language he used in the text to her, the odd behavior with waffle house, calling his sister SOS.
It could be possible that Daniel drove away from the site, hit the gas station, returned to meet with Ken, drove a few miles, disappeared for a day or so, then returned to the site and crashed into the ravine? So much time has gone by that we couldn't see security camera data from around town etc. I hope he didnt return to the girls home, or linger around the area she lives?
Really curious what the PI is leaning towards.
It could be possible that Daniel drove away from the site, hit the gas station, returned to meet with Ken, drove a few miles, disappeared for a day or so, then returned to the site and crashed into the ravine? So much time has gone by that we couldn't see security camera data from around town etc. I hope he didnt return to the girls home, or linger around the area she lives?
Really curious what the PI is leaning towards.
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Alright, i got another document i want to share and its connected to the Pinal county Active Management Area, the one Matrix was working on right before Daniel disappeared.
This is an official ADWR presentation from September 2022 where they formally reviewed and rejected Matrix New World's groundwater model for the Pinal Active Management Area(actually denied on June 28, 2021). We've talked about this rejection before but I hadn't seen this document until now and there's a detail in it worth highlighting, among others. It starts to explain the data behind the rejection.
Matrix submitted their model with the City of Eloy's water demand listed at 6,000 acre feet per year. The actual documented demand was 48,526 acre feet per year. ADWR caught it and called it out directly in this presentation.
That's not just fudging some numbers, that's submitting a number that is less than 13 percent of what it should actually be. If you tell the model that an area needs far less water than it actually does, the model is going to show the aquifer looking much healthier than it really is. Which is exactly the outcome Matrix needed to get well approvals pushed through for their clients.
ADWR rejected the model and said they wanted to schedule a direct technical meeting with Matrix specifically to go over the corrections required. What makes this interesting in the context of Daniel's case is that it isn't an isolated incident. It fits a pattern of how Matrix was operating across multiple projects at the same time.
For the Buckeye well that Daniel was logging, Matrix averaged in decade old transmissivity data from Stephen Noel's previous company to more than double the well's own test results, bringing it above the threshold needed for approval. That well got approved. Here in Pinal they submitted a demand figure that was off by over 40,000 acre feet per year in a direction that made the aquifer look far more viable than it actually was, that one got caught. One got caught because it was too far off to ignore. The other got approved because it stayed within acceptable range on paper even if the inputs were questionable, in my opinion.
Daniel Robinson was logging the one that got approved. Within one minute of photographing lithology logs he called Stephen Noel. They spoke for 8 minutes and a few hours later Daniel was gone. The boring log was completed by someone else the day after he disappeared.
The Pinal document doesn't prove anything about Daniel's case on its own, but the connection is interesting. Matrix's approach to these numbers wasn't a one time thing on one well, It was how they were operating across multiple projects simultaneously. ADWR was already in the process of catching it in Pinal. What Daniel may have been seeing in those logs that morning is whether the same problem existed in Buckeye. We already know those numbers were fudged.
This is an official ADWR presentation from September 2022 where they formally reviewed and rejected Matrix New World's groundwater model for the Pinal Active Management Area(actually denied on June 28, 2021). We've talked about this rejection before but I hadn't seen this document until now and there's a detail in it worth highlighting, among others. It starts to explain the data behind the rejection.
Matrix submitted their model with the City of Eloy's water demand listed at 6,000 acre feet per year. The actual documented demand was 48,526 acre feet per year. ADWR caught it and called it out directly in this presentation.
That's not just fudging some numbers, that's submitting a number that is less than 13 percent of what it should actually be. If you tell the model that an area needs far less water than it actually does, the model is going to show the aquifer looking much healthier than it really is. Which is exactly the outcome Matrix needed to get well approvals pushed through for their clients.
ADWR rejected the model and said they wanted to schedule a direct technical meeting with Matrix specifically to go over the corrections required. What makes this interesting in the context of Daniel's case is that it isn't an isolated incident. It fits a pattern of how Matrix was operating across multiple projects at the same time.
For the Buckeye well that Daniel was logging, Matrix averaged in decade old transmissivity data from Stephen Noel's previous company to more than double the well's own test results, bringing it above the threshold needed for approval. That well got approved. Here in Pinal they submitted a demand figure that was off by over 40,000 acre feet per year in a direction that made the aquifer look far more viable than it actually was, that one got caught. One got caught because it was too far off to ignore. The other got approved because it stayed within acceptable range on paper even if the inputs were questionable, in my opinion.
Daniel Robinson was logging the one that got approved. Within one minute of photographing lithology logs he called Stephen Noel. They spoke for 8 minutes and a few hours later Daniel was gone. The boring log was completed by someone else the day after he disappeared.
The Pinal document doesn't prove anything about Daniel's case on its own, but the connection is interesting. Matrix's approach to these numbers wasn't a one time thing on one well, It was how they were operating across multiple projects simultaneously. ADWR was already in the process of catching it in Pinal. What Daniel may have been seeing in those logs that morning is whether the same problem existed in Buckeye. We already know those numbers were fudged.
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In the interview I posted above, David specifically mentions this incident in the context of Ken telling him (David) that Daniel telling him (Ken) he was tired and wanted to go home to Phoenix. That didn’t set right with David, as Daniel wa a responsible young man and if he were so tired he would not attempt to be on the job site, where it could be dangerous, and also “Daniel didn’t even live in Phoenix, he lived in Tempe.”
This has always bugged me. There’s something not right about this. You can’t attempt to start an engine 40+ (46, according to DR) times without killing the battery. I can’t find a definitive source (thanks AI), but if you search something like “how many times can you attempt to start an engine” you’ll see a consensus of results that basically say around 10 - 15 at the outside, assuming the battery’s in good shape to begin with.
I wonder if that’s actually possible. According to the manual, the roof panels have to be unlocked from the passenger compartment, then removed from the outside. (pp 55-57)
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Yeah it's a weird thing for Daniel to say, but I think saying Phoenix/Tempe is kind of interchangeable, Tempe is a suburb of Phoenix.
When it comes to the 46 additional attempts to start the Jeep, it actually didn't crank with each attempt, draining the battery. Once a Jeep Renegade gets in an accident that deploys the airbags, a specific sequence has to be completed for the engine will attempt to start again, it cuts off the fuel until this sequence is performed. Whoever was with the Jeep after the first crash probably pressed the button a few times, nothing happened, then they pulled the manual out and went through the sequence needed to restart it, which involves pressing the ignition button a number of times. According to David the Jeeps manual was also found outside the glove box. Remember, Buckeye PD called the ignition attempts unexplainable on CNN, even though the manual would have explained it.
Since the engine wasn't actually trying to turn over until that lock out bypass was performed, the battery didn't drain.
David has always had a problem with the sunroof panel detail. According to him, the day after the vehicle was found Detective Biffin said he believed Daniel kicked the sunroof panel to get out. If this is true it's kind of strange that the panel actually ended up tucked underneath the front of the vehicle when they found the Jeep. According to Renegade feature videos, you also need a key to remove it, I wonder if it was damaged.
Edit- Sorry, not just according to David, according to Police Chief Larry Hall as well. If they seriously believe he kicked the sunroof out, how is it wedged underneath the vehicle?
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