AZ AZ - Daniel Robinson, 24, remote job site, Buckeye, 23 Jun 2021

[Force Ten]

Yes, the scratch is very small I estimate 3 inches maybe. It is also at a spot that could be prior damage?



It could be he tried to kick out the windshield after he fell into the passenger seat? Somebody chime in if that is even doable...to damage a windshield by kicking? Of course this goes back to @shadwell comment concerning passenger seat airbag deployment...was it made by second passenger? Would it be that damaged by a person if the crash was 30 MPH and the airbag deployed would the force of the person make that much damage.

Does anybody else think the damage on the drivers side (left) could have come from a gate keypad or speaker box?

Here's a couple more screen grabs from the video that @o 0 posted up thread...
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I was thinking it might be prior damage. My daughter while still getting her bearings had few incidents that didn’t involve other vehicles that caused damage to her car. And one time she backed out of the driveway and hit my truck! Took her bumper clean off. That red though looks to be the same color you would find on a curb. Maybe it’s from hitting a painted pole and has nothing to do with the collision.

 

[Force Ten]

Do we know where his sock was found?

 

[AzPistonsGirl]

bumping back to the top

 

[mlhenn]

The Arizona Republic


Months after he was reported missing, police haven’t acknowledged the suspicious circumstances surrounding his disappearance

Published Oct 04

 

[mlhenn]

Dad leads ninth search for son Daniel Robinson, hundreds of volunteers help | 12news.com

Published Oct 03

His dad led another search for Daniel, prompting hundreds of volunteers to spend their Saturday morning looking for any trace of him.

The search took place in the area Daniel was last seen near Sun Valley Parkway and Cactus Road.

"Roughly 200, a little over 200 volunteers are here," David said of the turnout Saturday, though more than a thousand people signed up for the search.

Buckeye Police also conducted targeted searches earlier this week using robotic technology.

The Buckeye Police Department said its investigation has been thorough, including more than a handful of ground and aerial searches plus many phone calls and interviews following up on leads.

The department said no foul play is suspected, and recently released a partial report that's more than 50 pages documenting its investigating efforts thus far.


The next search for Daniel will be Saturday, Oct. 9 at 7 a.m. Volunteers are encouraged to get to the location by 6:45 a.m.

David said he's in need of volunteers who drive SUV's and ATV's.

 

[mlhenn]

Missing geologist Daniel Robinson sent a desperate text to woman he barely knew before he vanished | Daily Mail Online

Published Oct 05
(Article contains information regarding the woman he just met/began texting, etc)

Daniel Robinson disappeared just hours after sending a woman he barely knew a desperate final text message, DailyMail.com can exclusively reveal.

'The world can get better, but I'll have to take all the time I can or we can, whatever, to name it,' he wrote to the woman identified only as K******.

'I'll either see you again or never see you again.'

Eighteen hours later, Robinson turned up at a remote work site deep in the Arizona desert outside of Buckeye. He stayed for 15 minutes, then drove off. He has not been seen or heard from since.

Robinson met K* on his side job delivering groceries for Instacart.

When he turned up with a liquor order at her home in the Phoenix suburb of Laveen on June 12, K* and a friend who was with her, invited him in.

'K* said she believed Daniel was very nice and she and her female friend asked Daniel if he wanted to hang out with them,' the police report said.

K* - whose last name is redacted in reports - and Daniel exchanged numbers, but she insists, nothing else happened.

Within a week, he arrived at her house unannounced, and with only a brief exchange of messages between them, Robinson texted K*: 'I couldn't stop thinking about you.'

By June 20 his message was 'I love you.' She tried to rebuff him.

'Honestly you showing up at my house unannounced made me extremely uncomfortable, she replied. 'I don't see us hanging out any time soon.'

The next day he turned up at her house again.

'This isn't normal nor acceptable,' K* told him. 'If someone has expressed that you've made them uncomfortable, you need to back off.'

'Do you hate me?' Daniel replied. 'I don't hate you but please leave me alone,' K* texted back.

He took 15 hours to respond with his final text to her. Eighteen hours after that he vanished.


Workmate Roger Prutsman was also concerned about his colleague. He told police he knew something was wrong.

When he asked Robinson what was bothering him, he replied: 'What if there was a girl you liked, but you couldn't have?'

 

[mlhenn]

Missing geologist Daniel Robinson sent a desperate text to woman he barely knew before he vanished | Daily Mail Online

To Note
Concerning the rancher who found Daniel’s Jeep:
•Rancher Brandon Shelton eventually discovered the Jeep on July 19, nearly a month after Robinson's disappearance.
•It was on its side at the bottom of a 20-foot ravine.
•The vehicle's airbags were deployed.
•Rancher Shelton, whose cattle graze 14,000 acres in the Buckeye area, is convinced the car had only been in the ravine that leads to the Hassayampa River a short while when he came across it.
•The rancher states the Jeep was clean.
•He also questions the one boot of Daniel’s that was stuck under the vehicle
•The rancher’s personal theory: someone deliberately wrecked that vehicle out there

Concerning the coworker who met w/ Daniel at around 9ish that morning:
•the two men had never met before
•they were to work on a deep well
•Elliott told police that Robinson 'was saying things that did not make sense,' such as asking if he (Elliott) wanted to go with him to Phoenix to rest.
•Elliott told Daniel he had work to do
•just 15 minutes after he arrived, Robinson abruptly left without a word.
•Elliott later followed his tire tracks and found that instead of going left at a T-junction to return to Phoenix, Robinson turned right into the unrelenting Sonoran Desert.

Concerning the private investigator:
•Jeff McGrath believes Robinson was upset about K’s rejection and went on an all-night video game binge.
•When he turned up at work he was so tired that he deliberately drove into the desert to take a nap where he wouldn't be found.
•'At that point I think somebody - not a good person - found him. I can't imagine what they did with him, but I believe his vehicle was crashed a couple of times and then its final rest was at the bottom of that ravine,' McGrath stated.

Concerning Daniel’s Jeep (interpreted by the PI):
•Jeep Renegade's airbag control module showed that the car was driven 11 miles after the airbags deployed
•the ignition was turned 46 times
•the damage to the vehicle appeared to show that it had been hit above the windshield. 'It looks like a bat or a pipe, or it could be a large rock - anything blunt.' (McGrath stated)
•driver's seat belt was buckled
•severe damage

Concerning Daniel’s belongings:
•wallet, phone and credit cards were all in the car
•His clothes - T-shirt, jeans turned inside-out, shorts, orange work vest, boots and two mismatched black socks - were all nearby.
•One of the socks is Nike, the other Adidas.
•One of the boots was stuck under the Jeep
•McGrath found another black Nike sock 3 miles away in the desert

 

[mlhenn]

Do we know where his sock was found?

According to this article, Missing geologist Daniel Robinson sent a desperate text to woman he barely knew before he vanished | Daily Mail Online , two mismatched black socks (one a Nike, the other Adidas) were found near his wrecked Jeep. However, another black Nike sock was found 3 miles away in the desert.

 

[mlhenn]

A photo of Daniel's wrecked Jeep


Missing geologist Daniel Robinson sent a desperate text to woman he barely knew before he vanished | Daily Mail Online

 

[cocomod]

If he sent a text message that many hours after he “vanished”, then did he purposely by choice disappear?

 

[JJ Ray]

Missing geologist Daniel Robinson sent a desperate text to woman he barely knew before he vanished | Daily Mail Online

To Note
Concerning the rancher who found Daniel’s Jeep:
•Rancher Brandon Shelton eventually discovered the Jeep on July 19, nearly a month after Robinson's disappearance.
•It was on its side at the bottom of a 20-foot ravine.
•The vehicle's airbags were deployed.
•Rancher Shelton, whose cattle graze 14,000 acres in the Buckeye area, is convinced the car had only been in the ravine that leads to the Hassayampa River a short while when he came across it.
•The rancher states the Jeep was clean.
•He also questions the one boot of Daniel’s that was stuck under the vehicle
•The rancher’s personal theory: someone deliberately wrecked that vehicle out there

Concerning the coworker who met w/ Daniel at around 9ish that morning:
•the two men had never met before
•they were to work on a deep well
•Elliott told police that Robinson 'was saying things that did not make sense,' such as asking if he (Elliott) wanted to go with him to Phoenix to rest.
•Elliott told Daniel he had work to do
•just 15 minutes after he arrived, Robinson abruptly left without a word.
•Elliott later followed his tire tracks and found that instead of going left at a T-junction to return to Phoenix, Robinson turned right into the unrelenting Sonoran Desert.

Concerning the private investigator:
•Jeff McGrath believes Robinson was upset about K’s rejection and went on an all-night video game binge.
•When he turned up at work he was so tired that he deliberately drove into the desert to take a nap where he wouldn't be found.
•'At that point I think somebody - not a good person - found him. I can't imagine what they did with him, but I believe his vehicle was crashed a couple of times and then its final rest was at the bottom of that ravine,' McGrath stated.

Concerning Daniel’s Jeep (interpreted by the PI):
•Jeep Renegade's airbag control module showed that the car was driven 11 miles after the airbags deployed
•the ignition was turned 46 times
•the damage to the vehicle appeared to show that it had been hit above the windshield. 'It looks like a bat or a pipe, or it could be a large rock - anything blunt.' (McGrath stated)
•driver's seat belt was buckled
•severe damage

Concerning Daniel’s belongings:
•wallet, phone and credit cards were all in the car
•His clothes - T-shirt, jeans turned inside-out, shorts, orange work vest, boots and two mismatched black socks - were all nearby.
•One of the socks is Nike, the other Adidas.
•One of the boots was stuck under the Jeep
•McGrath found another black Nike sock 3 miles away in the desert

EXCELLENT WORK ... I thought I was going to have to do this!
2 minor IMO points...
1) I thought the Rancher was stating the RAVINE was clean. Meaning he felt he would have seen it sooner than he did.
2) DBM ...erroneous conclusion Thanks @mlhenn
Bat or pole to the drivers side windshield was always my theory although I thought it might be from K or K's 'protectors' (but also even self inflicted). Mcgrath's point about a nap has merit.

 

[JJ Ray]

If he sent a text message that many hours after he “vanished”, then did he purposely by choice disappear?

Last text was June 22 early afternoon, June 23rd 9:15, he went missing.

 

[mlhenn]

1) I thought the Rancher was stating the RAVINE was clean. Meaning he felt he would have seen it sooner than he did.

Oh, he may have been referring to the ravine; I assumed “it” was in reference to the Jeep. Here’s the snip from the article:

Rancher Shelton, whose cattle graze 14,000 acres in the Buckeye area, is convinced the car had only been in the ravine that leads to the Hassayampa River a short while when he came across it.

'It was clean,' Shelton, 43, told DailyMail.com. 'And my cows would have found it. Cows are inquisitive creatures and would have licked it.'

 

[JJ Ray]

According to this article, Missing geologist Daniel Robinson sent a desperate text to woman he barely knew before he vanished | Daily Mail Online , two mismatched black socks (one a Nike, the other Adidas) were found near his wrecked Jeep. However, another black Nike sock was found 3 miles away in the desert.

@Force Ten
DBM erroneous conclusion....Thanks @mlhenn (watching Daily Mail embedded video in their on-line article, very informative).
This "third" sock was found at/near a well site 1 K N of work site IMO. I base this on the fact that when McGrath 'found new evidence' in early August search teams were re-directed to areas east and Northeast of the original work well site. I do not recognize the pallet he is showing in the Daily Mail video report (embedded in @mlhenn Daily Mail linked article.)

 

[JJ Ray]

Oh, he may have been referring to the ravine; I assumed “it” was in reference to the Jeep. Here’s the snip from the article:

Rancher Shelton, whose cattle graze 14,000 acres in the Buckeye area, is convinced the car had only been in the ravine that leads to the Hassayampa River a short while when he came across it.

'It was clean,' Shelton, 43, told DailyMail.com. 'And my cows would have found it. Cows are inquisitive creatures and would have licked it.'

Got it...I might have misinterpreted. He (the Rancher) just seems on board with the "dumped later" theory. In a few interviews, Mr. Robinson has alluded to "all the searches but WE never ran across it". See my previous comments concerning the area the Jeep was found and the extreme difficulty of seeing it unless right at the edge of the ravine. But what does he mean then by "clean"...it has significant damage (although I disagree with McGrath who says it's 'severe").

And what would it matter if his cows had found it and licked it? Is he saying it was "clean" from cow licking and therefore it had to be there only a short time and not since June 23rd???????

FWIW...I have never run across a cow yet in that area of the properties. All the cows I have seen are hanging 2.5 mile to the southeast in an open pen...with plenty of hay and water. I was 8 miles across the Hassayampa to the west and saw one cow back in July.

 

[mlhenn]

2) I don't believe the Nike sock McGrath found is black. I don't think the color is stated.

BBM

Do you mind elaborating? You don’t think the color is stated where (which article)/by whom?Sorry, I guess I’m not following…forgive me!

 

[JJ Ray]

BBM

Do you mind elaborating? You don’t think the color is stated where (which article)/by whom?Sorry, I guess I’m not following…forgive me!

NO FORGIVE ME! I was scanning the article way to fast and missed the repeat of "black" on the NIKE sock, now watching the embedded Daily Mail video were McGrath is going through the evidence.

 

[swedeheart]

Gray went over Daniel's case again last night, and he has a copy of the incident report (with the woman Daniel delivered food to), including his text messages with her.

Segment starts about 1:41:00.

 

[Trackergd]

I read the article as the rancher claiming the jeep was clean as in that there was no layer of dust on it from sitting for an extended period of time. I think that if @JJ Ray had seen a quantity of cow hoof prints around the jeep, it would have been noted in one of the many detailed posts here. I wish I could be there for the search on the 9th. The rancher is noting details that don't seem to ad up to what we currently know. The distance the jeep traveled precludes it being hidden somewhere for a period of time, so it should have had dust on it, notably due to it being on it's side and wrecked. Why would the cows have found the jeep if they were penned up a distance away?

 

[shadwell]

Still from ABC Nightline video of the three socks - presumably those found at the car location on the left and the faded one apparently found later near the pallet on the right.

Father takes search into his own hands, says police haven't done enough for his missing Black son