GUILTY AZ - Daniel Rodriguez, 29, fatally shot by Phoenix PD officer, 5 Oct 2010 #3

  • #121
The longer they are out, is that usually indicative of G or NG?


It is a coin toss.....IMO.

Maybe some of the jurors are just so detailed oriented that they must go over everything twice to be satisfied which takes time. Maybe Juror #9 is a natural loner and being couped up with others has given him a headache (head in hands while smoking his cigarette).

I am going to be nervous if deliberations fall into next week.
 
  • #122
Trial Diva Jen ™ ‏@TrialDivasJ 3m
Jury is going home and will return Monday...#RichardChrisman

They haven't given up! That's good!
 
  • #123
Trial Diva Sharee™ ‏@TrialDivasS 3m Jury is leaving and going home.....what are your thoughts? Is this a definite sign that they are frustrated and hung? #richardchrisman

Holy cow!
 
  • #124
That sounds like frustration. Wow. Sounds like they are at an impasse but don't want to give up.
 
  • #125
All I can see is "Yom Kippur" begins at sundown as far as why they would call it quits early. So whuzup with that?
 
  • #126
Does someone have a pressing nail appointment or something? How do you just go home early from deliberations???
 
  • #127
Going home is not a good sign imo.
 
  • #128
I think hung jury.
 
  • #129
Trial Diva Jen ™ ‏@TrialDivasJ 3m
Jury is going home and will return Monday...#RichardChrisman

They haven't given up! That's good!

Hmmmm. Their leaving early, to my mind, is indicative that they have come to some sort of conclusion and are going to mull it over the weekend. JMO
 
  • #130
Ok ladies....LET"S NOT PANIC. There could be explanation for this: mainly, they don't usually work on Fridays, someone on the jury could have wanted to go home and pick their kids up from school, or they could have some family activity planned. Someone else could be going out of town for the weekend, had to go home early to pack up. There could be a million things.

If they are deliberating in terms of looking at each piece of evidence, and they haven't finished with that yet, it could just be a matter of that. Or....yes, it could be that they are just not unanimous yet.
 
  • #131
Does someone have a pressing nail appointment or something? How do you just go home early from deliberations???

Right after lunch no less. :banghead: :scared:
 
  • #132
Verdict Watch:

9-10-13: 3:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m. (1 hour)
9-11-13: 10:30 a.m. - 12:00 noon, (lunch) 1:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m. (4.5 hours)
9-12-13: 10:30 a.m. - 12:00 noon, (lunch) 1:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m. (4.5 hours)
9-13-13: 10:30 a.m. - 12:30, (lunch) 1:30 p.m. - 2:30 p.m. (3.0 hours)

13.0 hours total deliberations
 
  • #133
The longer they are out, is that usually indicative of G or NG?

Just jumping off your post.

Most likely a hold out.

It is a difficult decision to make no matter how you slice it. Some people cannot find anyone guilty of a crime that demands jail time and loss of job. (Loss of job should be a given here, but jurors don't know all we do.)

It does not help when it is a police officer, and not only this board but others, post about possible repercussion. (We have had people shot on the bus here for drug convictions, don't know about Arizona.)

Most people do not want to be jurors now because of repercussions. I fully understand. I think jury duty should now go with jurors behind a camera or something. Also, they cannot afford it if they have to support themselves, so they get an attitude.

Both sides do present enough in any case now to cancel each other out, and without the t.v. "smoking gun" instant answers via science (although that is fallible too) people want to give the benefit of a doubt. They also know that someday soon in our rather litigious and no discrimination on allegations society, they will hope for understanding jurors, karma effect.

I do not think they are all there for the $30 a day pay that comes eventually, maybe it is more now, but long trials STILL end up with a null verdict.

Just MOO. Just me being frustrated. The death penalty or life is not on the table, right?

Rambling and upset about other things, so take with a grain.
 
  • #134
Verdict Watch:

9-10-13: 3:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m. (1 hour)
9-11-13: 10:30 a.m. - 12:00 noon, (lunch) 1:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m. (4.5 hours)
9-12-13: 10:30 a.m. - 12:00 noon, (lunch) 1:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m. (4.5 hours)
9-13-13: 10:30 a.m. - 12:30, (lunch) 1:30 p.m. - 2:30 p.m. (3.0 hours)

13.0 hours total deliberations

Weird, they stop at 13 hours on Friday the 13th......que spooky music! :scared:
It'll be fine...I hope.
:truce:
 
  • #135
Verdict Watch:

9-10-13: 3:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m. (1 hour)
9-11-13: 10:30 a.m. - 12:00 noon, (lunch) 1:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m. (4.5 hours)
9-12-13: 10:30 a.m. - 12:00 noon, (lunch) 1:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m. (4.5 hours)
9-13-13: 10:30 a.m. - 12:30, (lunch) 1:30 p.m. - 2:30 p.m. (3.0 hours)

13.0 hours total deliberations

Whoduthunk, when jury got the case, that the verdict would be NEXT monday, tuesday, whatever....

I can't even remember what day they first got the case now!!
 
  • #136
Hmmmm. Their leaving early, to my mind, is indicative that they have come to some sort of conclusion and are going to mull it over the weekend. JMO

Thinking about this... it makes the most sense imo.
 
  • #137
Right after lunch no less. :banghead: :scared:

Most Courts close after lunch on Fridays, Judges and staff still work, but everyone else is let go. They could have stayed as long as they want, but did not.
 
  • #138
Hmmmm. Their leaving early, to my mind, is indicative that they have come to some sort of conclusion and are going to mull it over the weekend. JMO

That actually does make the most sense. If they were hung, why not announce it? If they are at an impasse and can't come to a decision, why not keep deliberating? You may be right. Just wondering what that decision is?
 
  • #139
All I can see is "Yom Kippur" begins at sundown as far as why they would call it quits early. So whuzup with that?

Hungry, angry, and in the dark?

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Sorry, Billy Joel said that on NPR.
 
  • #140
Maybe juror 9 was looking towrds the family because he already knew it would be a short day without a verdict and the family would have to endure a weekend of stress with the extra waiting.

They did work an extra half hour and took an hour lunch so in retrospect (about 5 minutes worth lol) possibly this was known to all of them that one had to leave early.
 

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