GUILTY AZ - Daniel Rodriguez, 29, fatally shot by Phoenix PD officer, 5 Oct 2010 #3

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Female, ya'll know that when I said I can't imagine measure.

Peanut shape, or rather rounding out and thinning hair, night sweats, and all that goes with it. Ha!

I'm just here b/c you guys are and b/c it interests me.

My boss lost a case (defense attorney, major winner and fighter like Juan) and was angry. Yep, all attorneys, defense or prosecution, get mad when they know they are older, experienced and good, about a cop lying about drugs and school district. Juries have changed. In this city all know cops lie. All want drugs out. All want to be safe in public.

Heck, I was called for jury duty 20 years ago. Right before I got this job. A fairly large city, at the time #1 for murder rate in U.S. about 10 years running. I worked at a restaurant. Do you know, they still called jurors by name, still said where you worked out loud!!! I freaked out. My restaurant hired people through "The Program", hired from jail. It was a drug case, not murder. I told the lawyers during Juror Voir Dire I could not participate or put anyone in jail. ('Cause I knew in my mind would be killed if I did.) Do you know, the Judge chewed me out for half an hour with hypothetical stories about our known criminal restaurant owner and his potential murder, or him murdering, and the prosecution and defense attorneys came to the restaurant to make digs at me!!! That defense attorney eventually got it (and quit being a lawyer) but I was astounded at the idiocy and lack of concern for the jurors.

You know what, I suck telling these bad stories.

The truth of why this trial is not of interest is because people think the cop will get off. Or some harm will come and we will hear about it a few years from now. Not a story anyone wants to see. They know the possible endings.

I will hope for jail time for the cop. I should shut up, I have said too much, yet again.

ETA: To clarify, as if I can ever make sense. The case I mentioned above was about some cocaine under a passenger seat in a car. The defendant declared it was a passengers. I could see that. I could also see the rest of the jurors not understanding, long story, but even seeming homeless angry (some homeless are not angry) were being chosen, and I'll leave mind sets at that. But it was only that little corner of a baggie, no bigger than a pinkie nail. This guy was looking at 15 years! I don't know what that 4 lines of coke costs now, but back then it was like ten bucks. Our local rules passed a law that has since caused a lot of attorneys more work in retracting sentencing time. Not just the crack retro time, this was just regular coke. (I don't do drugs, but in restaurants, I was exposed to employees being paid in heroin and was more livid about my 4 dead friends in their early 20's than coke. Crack heads were on their own, I could only take so much. I still have friends that will be addicted to heroin forever, I can only try to help them stop, methodone is just a bridge, and does not stop. Oh, and there are some pills that I am told are just as bad withdrawals for heroin users, and please, those with loved ones, don't put faith in that.)

ETAA: (is that like P.S.S.?) What none of them knew, even the Judge that I told I would not see anything as I would be too busy, and I really was. I pulled in the best money I ever made serving food, or having a desk job, at that place at that time. What they did not know was I was the only mid-20's person there with a small child to support and protect. Not just looking out for me, not just being the hung juror, I had my DD.

God I hope none of you deal with this ever. I hope it is not part of the case. I have no idea.

The tweets about "smiling" jurors (which is most likely wrong) would tell me that they are hiding emotions. That bothers me. Sorry I brought up a mini novel about a long time ago. It just seemed time. It may explain small towns now, but we were not a small town then, nor is this. And, just a few days ago, no one cared that a cop lied. However, drug dealer does out weigh cop lying to a degree, but not in my mind. Point being, I hope the crime and fear is not that high there. (Small towns I thought were worse when I moved here almost 30 years ago, and I was wrong.) I hope the jury stands up, and starts to end the cycle there.

I would not want to be in their position.

21Merc, thank you for your insight and sharing your experience with us. I feel sooooo bad for you having to go through all that, at the same time trying to support your daughter.
 
  • #202
Turns out I have in fact broken both bones,at least another 4 weeks in th's boot and back for a scan then who knows what.

7Weeks at least in this boot...how depressing

Sent from my 'alternate reality' using my hippocampus

oh josie....I"m so sorry! No wonder you're having a bad day!

Hopefully the jury will cheer you up :)
 
  • #203
Turns out I have in fact broken both bones,at least another 4 weeks in th's boot and back for a scan then who knows what.

7Weeks at least in this boot...how depressing

Sent from my 'alternate reality' using my hippocampus

Bummer
 
  • #204
Turns out I have in fact broken both bones,at least another 4 weeks in th's boot and back for a scan then who knows what.

7Weeks at least in this boot...how depressing

Sent from my 'alternate reality' using my hippocampus

Holy cow, I'm so sorry to hear that. I was trapped in an arm cast for 5 weeks (and 5 days lol) about 4 yrs. ago, most torturous time of my life (in recent memory anyhow), I hope the weeks ahead go by quickly for you, Josie.
 
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Didn't know if anyone had read this or not. While we are waiting, happened over the weekend.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/16/justice/police-shootings/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

Yeah, holy cow, that poor kid. I think this officer just panicked, seeing a very large and maybe bloody black man coming towards them, not sure what he thought he'd do, esp. if he seemed hurt. One article I read said the cop was just devastated. Don't know how it'll play out but what a truly horrible situation, I just grieve for everyone.
 
  • #208
Why didn't the police yell out to him, "stop, stop, raise your hands up!" Then the poor guy would have known that they thought he was a danger. That poor guy, he was running to them for help, he was relieved that they were there. So sad. I'm sure if the police had yelled out to him to stop, he would have stopped, could have then explained the situation to them if he had known.
 
  • #209
Trial Diva Jen ™ ‏@TrialDivasJ 1m @HenriSAZ No Chrisman yet...but the jury is in sight
 
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Trial Diva Jen ™ ‏@TrialDivasJ 11m The jury has brought their lunches....#RichardChrisman
 
  • #211
oooooohhhhh it is going to be a long day I fear.
 
  • #212
Turns out I have in fact broken both bones,at least another 4 weeks in th's boot and back for a scan then who knows what.

7Weeks at least in this boot...how depressing

Sent from my 'alternate reality' using my hippocampus

Lets paint it and decorate it!! :rockon::floorlaugh::blushing:
 
  • #213
oooooohhhhh it is going to be a long day I fear.

It already has been; I've been trying to get the feed for the FL trial home invasion but all they show is weather! Grrrrrr. lol.
 
  • #214
how long has the jury been out? :)

Hi Bernina!
 
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Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 7m Jury is about to resume deliberations in the #RichardChrisman trial.

Trial Diva Jen ™ ‏@TrialDivasJ 7m #9 Juror looked better today...#RichardChrisman
 
  • #216
Been out 12 hours I think, lemme go get the verdict clock and paste it here.
 
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Verdict Watch:

9-10-13: 3:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m. (1 hour)
9-11-13: 10:30 a.m. - 12:00 noon, (lunch) 1:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m. (4.5 hours)
9-12-13: 10:30 a.m. - 12:00 noon, (lunch) 1:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m. (4.5 hours)
9-13-13: 10:30 a.m. - 12:30, (lunch) 1:30 p.m. - 2:30 p.m. (3.0 hours)
9-16-13: 10:30 a.m. -

13.0 hours total deliberations
 
  • #219
Trial Diva Sharee™ ‏@TrialDivasS 6m Interesting court has everybody sitting on opposite side of corridor 2day. Jury will not be able 2 see the family up close #richardchrismanExpand Collapse Reply Retweet Retweeted

That's interesting, think they're been reading Trial Diva tweets?!
 
  • #220
oops never mind 13 hours....thanks geevee...
 

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