AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #1

[Courtney1981]

Behind it all?? No "real" loving mother would give up their baby like this or play these mind games

I want to see the so called "mother" get her share of the blame no matter which way this falls....dead, alive, sold, whatever...I pray this baby is alive but I really can't give the so called mother any slack any way it falls

I agree the mother is to blame also. but i am looking at it like this, if Eliz was looking for a way out and she had already considered adoption once, then TPS comes along and tells her everything she wants to hear and offers her money, she may take it. TPS wanted a baby, Eliz had one, she knew Gabe was in a situation that was not appropriate for a child. She likely told Eliz everything she wanted to hear and if Eliz already had doubts, then TPS played on that. IMO

 

[Kamille]

Did anyone else see this?!

This is comment after one of her comments on her pics
"Tammi Peters Smith We are going to be "foster parents"!!! His dad decided to keep him, so wish us luck!!!! We are willing to take a boy ages birth to 4 years old, and/or a girl ages birth to 8 years. We will only take 2 children at most. We don't want a boy older than Hannah due to the fear that he could hurt her, not knowing what kind of background he comes from. They don't tell you the background in their midnight phone call, lol...Please keep praying for Gabriel and his mommy's safety on the road! She found an underground help in TX. that has given her formula/diapers,Etc. and all the legal formalities...Keep praying for his safety!!!!!!!"

There are pics all over her FB wall of baby Gabe!!! This woman had no intentions to truly help Elizabeth-she wanted a baby and she wanted Gabe--
IMO

What date was this posted? Is this more backtracking?

Midnight phonecall? What does that mean? Does this woman advertise for unwed pregnant women/girls to contact her? How does one go about finding "underground help" when abducting babies? This is just all so bizzare.

 

[Courtney1981]

open the fb page to that comment. press CTRL and Prt sc (top row of keys on the right.)(print screen). It will save whatever is visible on your screen to the clipboard. Then, open up Paint and do a CTRL+V (control/paste). The image from your screen will then be in paint. Next, if you need to crop it or remove the edges, the functions are there in Paint.

Thanks! Ok i have it saved, now what do i do? lol-you'd never know by reading tis i have a degree in graphic design, huh? lol

 

[not_my_kids]

No underground help for abductions but there are for abused women and abused kids. She could have spun a good tale, and they may have helped her trade her car for cash, and stashed Gabe.
Not all underground abuse centers operate within the law. (Sometimes you have to cross that boundary, the tricky part is knowing when.)
Midnight calls are likely from CPS, or LE. She may have thought, at that point, that Gabe would come back to them if and when Elizabeth was caught.

 

[Courtney1981]

What date was this posted? Is this more backtracking?

Midnight phonecall? What does that mean? Does this woman advertise for unwed pregnant women/girls to contact her? How does one go about finding "underground help" when abducting babies? This is just all so bizzare.

December24th

 

[Dear Prudence]

Underground help in Texas - I wonder if this is why LE seemed pretty sure Gabriel was still in San Antonio. If so, why don't they know where he is?? More weirdness.

And Tammi Fay says the underground is helping EJ with all the legal formalities and stuff. Huh. The mom's in jail and the baby is still missing. How's that for help?

 

[momtective]

Thanks! Ok i have it saved, now what do i do? lol-you'd never know by reading tis i have a degree in graphic design, huh? lol

LOL, send it in a file attachment to LE or put in in a photobucket account, post it here and we'll all send it to LE...:dance:

 

[mysticrose]

I wonder how many inmates in AZ are prepearing for her arrival .. lol, I am almost ready to drive there and get thrown in the clink just to kick her butt when she arrives ( yeah right, I can dream can't I )

 

[Kamille]

Underground help in Texas - I wonder if this is why LE seemed pretty sure Gabriel was still in San Antonio. If so, why don't they know where he is?? More weirdness.

And Tammi Fay says the underground is helping EJ with all the legal formalities and stuff. Huh. The mom's in jail and the baby is still missing. How's that for help?

Yeah that's probably the story that LE were told by TS so that's why they believed the baby was still in Texas. And I agree about the no help issue. Why is it that EJ only seems to be contacting TS for help? Why not her "underground" friends? Or her own family?

 

[Courtney1981]

LOL, send it in a file attachment to LE or put in in a photobucket account, post it here and we'll all send it to LE...:dance:

Ok i have it in a photobucket account but you cant really see it
here is the link
http://s778.photobucket.com/albums/yy66/Couryney1981/?action=view&current=tammismjith2.jpg

hope i did that right!:innocent:

 

[momtective]

Ok i have it in a photobucket account but you cant really see it
here is the link
http://s778.photobucket.com/albums/yy66/Couryney1981/?action=view&current=tammismjith2.jpg

hope i did that right!:innocent:

I'm on her friends now too so I got it and sent it in. I hope they charge her with aiding and abetting and interference with child custody. I believe she is behind this whole thing.

 

[Courtney1981]

Thanks for sending that in! Still a lil new to this, so i don't know all the ropes, yet!
BTW anyone that wants to add her to see stuff, I'm pretty sure she'll accept!

 

[momtective]

Link to the comment http://i489.photobucket.com/albums/rr260/momtective/WS photos/TammiPetersSmithFacebook.jpg

 

[momtective]

Thanks for sending that in! Still a lil new to this, so i don't know all the ropes, yet!
BTW anyone that wants to add her to see stuff, I'm pretty sure she'll accept!

After speaking with LE I'm pretty sure it is them who is accepting the friends request and not Tammi. They are on to her big time!

 

[January.]

In her CafeMom profile, she does say she is writing a book. Being involved in a case like this will sure sell books. I'm almost entirely convinced she's behind this.

 

[January.]

Oh, and in her CafeMom profile she also mentioned she was looking to adopt one more child, and this was back in 2008, long before Gabriel was born.

 

[Courtney1981]

After speaking with LE I'm pretty sure it is them who is accepting the friends request and not Tammi. They are on to her big time!

Thanks for letting me know! I am curious to see what they find out! Hopefully whatever it is will bring Gabe home safe and sound!!

 

[Courtney1981]

I cant find her on Cafemom

 

[darlin gal]

Tempe, Ariz. -- Tammi and Jack Smith say they were looking out for the best interest of Gabriel Johnson when they started spending time with him and his mother, Elizabeth Johnson, nearly a month ago."We had a complete bond with him," said Tammi Peter-Smith.The Smiths told CBS5 they are confident little Gabriel is alive. They were in contact with Elizabeth Johnson up until she was arrested, and they could hear Gabriel through the phone in the background."I heard the baby babble... I heard the baby cry, " Smith said.They even received text messaged disputing the threats Elizabeth made about hurting Gabriel."Immediately after she sent him the text that said she killed the baby, she sent us a text saying that she did that to get back at the father and that the baby was fine," said Jack Smith.Authorities say Johnson, who failed to appear for a custodial hearing last week in a Maricopa County court, was arrested Dec. 30 in Miami Beach on suspicion of custodial interference.The Smiths spent significant time getting to know Gabriel and have several pictures with the boy in their home, playing with their own four-year-old daughter.They say they didn't involve the father, Logan McQueary in the adoption procedures because Elizabeth Johnson told them he was abusive."As soon as she got away from Logan and we had the baby, and he was not a part of her life, all of the sudden she had a bright cheery attitude about herself," said Tammi Smith.But at an emotional press conference Monday, McQueary told CBS5 that after Gabriel disappeared, the Smiths tried to strong-arm him into giving up his child."When Gabriel disappeared, they said to me basically if you really care about your son and you want him back and you want Elizabeth to bring him back, than you'll sign the paperwork and she'll bring him back," said Logan McQueary.The Smiths said they were only passing along the messages they were getting from Elizabeth. They also say they are cooperating fully with the investigation and no longer believe the adoption is possible."Now the father is so deeply into this that his ego would never allow him to sign papers," said SmithBut they still may have a role to play. The Smiths believe Elizabeth Johnson will tell them Gabriel's location Tuesday."She wants to talk to me tomorrow at 2 o'clock to see if I will help her with attorneys to gain custody of Gabriel. If she hurt the baby, I don't think she would be trying to get custody," Tammi Smith said.
http://www.kpho.com/news/22125969/detail.html

 

[LadyL]

Maybe Elizabeth is the one manipulating everyone.

Telling the father that Gabe is dead, manipulation on an emotional level.
Telling Tammi that he is alive...possibly on a financial level.
Not telling the police anything, manipulation to gain and keep control.

Not that I think Tammi is okay in the head, but it is possible that she is a victim of the Elizabeth crazy train.

[bbm] hehe
brilliant post
man, I loathe these people