AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #11

[Ransom]

It doesn't look THAT big I wonder how big it really is.

I can't tell either. LOL. But it is a "bag" and not a backpack. Looks like a diaper bag to me. JMO

 

[momtective]

Okay-I asked LM if he helped TPS find EJ in San Antonio sense she told me he had on FB. I was told that when EJ got there she got a phone. She called TPS and gave them the number to the phone and LM was called given the number and it was found to have been turned on in Bexar county in san antonio


Hope this is okay and if not I am sorry.

I think that was perfectly fine.:dance: So, does LE have the cell phone? I wonder if maybe she contacted the prospective adoptive parents with it. Wouldn't that be great if she did.

 

[captdj]

Okay-I asked LM if he helped TPS find EJ in San Antonio sense she told me he had on FB. I was told that when EJ got there she got a phone. She called TPS and gave them the number to the phone and LM was called given the number and it was found to have been turned on in Bexar county in san antonio


Hope this is okay and if not I am sorry.

Do you think this is a second phone? Did she have one when she left AZ?

 

[mamaeb]

In the previoius thread I posted a theory I had as to how the loose ends could possibly come together. I was in a hurry when I typed that post as I had to leave to pick up my daughter. Because of that I forgot to post the last part of my theory. I copied the text from my own post and here it is:

I have a theory as to how the loose pieces come together. Forgive me if someone has posted the same or similar theory - there are so many great sleuths here someone has probably already thought of this. TS and JS broker underground adoptions. TPS approached EJ not to adopt Baby Gabriel for herself but to act as a broker. TPS did not count on Logan's resistance. The birth certificate that was filed with TPS cousin as the father was done to bypass the need for Logan's signature to ok the adoption. Once the Birth certificate with the cousin name was filed then TPS could have the cousin sign the adoption papers. Once that was completed the underground adoption was arranged. This is IMHO but there are many couples desperate to adopt who don't want to wait a long time, or don't meet the adoption criteria set by legal agencies - maybe they are too old, etc. etc. Again, my theory,speculation and opinion only.

Now. here is the part I forgot to type: The reason, IMO, that TPS and JS are going on the NG show is because TPS is trying to manipulate he circumstances to look like they are the poor naive couple who were promised Gabriel in adoption, and they were duped. Now they are are trying to help in any way they can, yadda, yadda, etc. The whole idea is to throw any suspicion away from them back to EJ , and to take on the appearance of a "helper" rather than a perpetrator. That completes my theory. It may or may not connect that way in reality, but I cannot help but think that LE knows a whole lot more than we do. LE has a reason that TPS and JS were named persons of interest.

I agree with a lot of that except I think this baby was for them. she has pictures of him from december and says "new addition to our family" and a picture of gabe and Jack where she calls jack his daddy. ugh.

 

[Torrie]

http://www.justanswer.com/questions/1i99f-my-grandson-is-8-month-old-20-2-lbs-with-a-cold-he-has-had

This is a link to amoxicillin dosage, for a 20lb, 8 month old, which is 1 tsp. It's hard to tell with the baby's fingers there, but it looks to be about that much, if that cup is 3tsp. However, we don't know how much he already drank.

I have no concrete info on the benadryl, but on a site among mommies, the consensus was .5 tsp until a year old.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

So, TPS called LM and gave him EJ's new phone number?

 

[Ransom]

He is one of the most beautiful babies I have ever seen. Gorgeous.

ITA. He's just precious. I want to hold him.

 

[RJA00]

I think that was perfectly fine.:dance: So, does LE have the cell phone? I wonder if maybe she contacted the prospective adoptive parents with it. Wouldn't that be great if she did.

did she have email abilty with the phone, did she email the couple the pics of the baby ?
could that be traced ?
or i think you can send texts with pics, Im not very smart with cellsphones lol just use them for emercncy dont think i have ever texted

 

[legallee]

there has been a huge recall on meds:
The recall includes some batches of regular and extra-strength Tylenol, children's Tylenol, eight-hour Tylenol, Tylenol arthritis, Tylenol PM, children's Motrin, Motrin IB, Benadryl Rolaids, Simply Sleep, and St. Joseph's aspirin.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/health/2010-01-15-tylenol-recall-expands_N.htm

 

[DairyGirl]

I think that was perfectly fine.:dance: So, does LE have the cell phone? I wonder if maybe she contacted the prospective adoptive parents with it. Wouldn't that be great if she did.

I was thinking that if EJ did contact the adoptive parents on her cell phone they would have the phone number...unless the adoptive parents bought a throw away phone, too. That would be impossible to trace I would imagine and might be why LE doesn't seem close to finding the adoptive parents.

 

[what about this?]

I also would like to throw out there that EJ and LM lived together for 2 years. LM obviously loves his son, and I believe he still loves Elizabeth. He was in a situation where he did the best he could. Then came the predator wanting their baby, pressuring Elizabeth who had had bad time with her early life.

I don't care who is mad at me -- I think that if the predator had not been there from the beginning, maybe things would have worked out.

LM put up with things that were coming up from her childhood. He was not equipped to do it all himself.

If Tammi and Jack had not come into their lives and pressured Eliz, lied to Eliz, this would have never happened. And that's MO.

 

[RJA00]

ok
If they have a number on her cell phone, I hope they have check ts phones to see if that number is on any of her phones

 

[mamaeb]

there has been a huge recall on meds:
The recall includes some batches of regular and extra-strength Tylenol, children's Tylenol, eight-hour Tylenol, Tylenol arthritis, Tylenol PM, children's Motrin, Motrin IB, Benadryl Rolaids, Simply Sleep, and St. Joseph's aspirin.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/health/2010-01-15-tylenol-recall-expands_N.htm

wasn't the recall because of the miss information, or confusion in the directions as far as dosage amounts?

 

[LadyL]

wait, when did they give LM the number? after or prior to police involvement?

 

[mamaeb]

ok
If they have a number on her cell phone, I hope they have check ts phones to see if that number is on any of her phones

or any craigslist post.. erotic, adoption, jobs

 

[Adrienne37]

Someone posted a few pages back about Benadryl being sticky enough to adhere to the sides of a medicine cup, syringe, or whatever, but that's not the case. Benadryl is a very thin liquid, not at all like a liquid Tylenol, Motrin, amoxicillin, or any other type of liquid antibiotic.

 

[Amster]

Soooo....she bought a new phone when she got to SA?? Called Tammi and Tammi called Logan right away with the phone #? hmmmm.....

 

[LadyL]

wasn't the recall because of the miss information, or confusion in the directions as far as dosage amounts?

no, it says in the article that people were getting sick b/c of a mouldy smell and the smell was linked to a chemical used to treat wooden pallets

 

[panthera]

did she have email abilty with the phone, did she email the couple the pics of the baby ?
could that be traced ?
or i think you can send texts with pics, Im not very smart with cellsphones lol just use them for emercncy dont think i have ever texted

I'm like you are. And mine has the capability but I just don't use it. More than anything I'm curious if EJ planned to send the photos to someone or if they were for her own "memories". MOO

 

[RJA00]

wait, when did they give LM the number? after or prior to police involvement?

ok, somebody wanted ej to get cougt, maybe ej in jail, they dont have to pay for the baby, she might have been waiting for payment
jmo

I would like to know excact time ts gave lm the number