AZ - Gabriel Johnson, 8 months, 26 Dec 2009 - last seen in Texas - #2

[luckygirl]

Oh my gosh Momtective, I so hope you are right!

 

[pghbrandi]

Yep, this just might call for snail mail via overnight delivery with instruction on exactly what her good friends who are keeping baby Gabriel for her are to do. I'm relatively sure Gabriel will turn up at a church within the next 48 hours.

Oh how I hope you are right!

 

[MD MOMMY]

But, remember, in the cases you mention it was to each killer's benefit to make the imaginary stranger look evil and menacing. In this case, it's to the mom's benefit to make the strangers look kind, normal, and trustworthy. I have a feeling the couple in the composite will look bland and have no distinguishing features.

If the composite of the woman comes back with a "bob" haircut..I'm done. I would bet the bank that is exactly what we'll see. The man will have a normal parted to the side "dad" cut..just watch. JMO.

 

[Nocgirl]

I agree that Logan's criminal past was 4-5 years ago. It does not bother me either. He was REALLY young and it was a non violent crime. Who knows what it was...I read the court minutes and couldn't tell what it was it was he stole. I give Logan FAR more credit than mom. I'm pretty sue Logan used to work at the Native New Yorker in Mesa..i believe he waited on me once. He is so handsome honestly he is hard to forget. Him and Elizabeth made a really beautiful baby... I sure hope Gabe is alive.

I am appauled at the Smiths and what I have read. They should be POI and I think they know exactly what happened to the baby. TS post regarding EJ going "underground" is VERY disturbing.

 

[sandcastles4me]

I wish I had the money to offer a substantial reward for his safe return, I think that may get whomever his hiding him to possibly turn him over. I do believe that TS knows more than she has said, they both looked fidgety tonight on NG.

 

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I guess I missed this before - Elizabeth has a twin brother, Robert. They were put in many foster homes together until they were 12 and then moved in with their father in Scottsdale. Robert introduced her to Logan.

 

[Searchfortruth]

I wonder if the FB comment by Tammi was the cause for LE naming them as POI's ? How can they sit there on national TV and spew these lies ? I think they'll have an attorney by tomorrow morning too, if they don't already. I can't wait to see them hauled off to jail.

 

[DairyGirl]

I guess I missed this before - Elizabeth has a twin brother

Where did you see that?

 

[sandcastles4me]

I guess I missed this before - Elizabeth has a twin brother, Robert.

Wow really? Where did you hear about him?

 

[time]

Where did you see that?

Scroll down to the video

http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=2430

 

[sleuthinginca]

I wish I had the money to offer a substantial reward for his safe return, I think that may get whomever his hiding him to possibly turn him over. I do believe that TS knows more than she has said, they both looked fidgety tonight on NG.

They both had the thumb action going big time. I am tying to flash back to a "Lie to Me" (Tim Roth) episode that discused this. Pretty sure the thumb thing meant something around the lines of... "I am lying my a$$ off right now"

 

[Prof]

I think this little dosey right here is what did it

Along with the fact that on TPS fb she never once mentioned Gabriel until Dec. 12th the day after the initial court hearing.

I am flabergasted by this-- no words because I cannot begin to think like this woman or understand this type of thinking -- her FB is private; I assume you found a cached page? -- I do hope you are right and LE has this :-O

and is she laughing at those she takes advantage of in this status?

sorry, trying to sort this all out

 

[Searchfortruth]

Anyone know what kind of charges the Smiths and Elizabeth may face ? If the transfer happened in SA will they face TX for these crimes or AZ ?

 

[SusanB]

Yeah... I think he will show up really soon.... and of course it will be in a weird and far away city with no posible TS connection. Probably even a different state... so then 4 states will be involved to make it even more confusing.

Good thought! Hope so, then the baby would be alive.
I agree that the Smiths did not think this would end up being a national media case. They looked sooooo nervous on the interview with NG! Both cringing their hands and twidling their thumbs, bumbling their words, umm, ahh, well...'s, they are now walking on eggshells and must keep their stories straight.
EJ is NOT cooperating with LE with the composite drawing of the supposed adoptees from the park.
T and JS , IMO, will be prosecuted eventually for their role in this mess. Human trafficking carries a hefty punishment.

 

[DairyGirl]

Scroll down to the video

http://primewriter.com/news-1246-headlines/?p=2430

Interesting. Thanks for that.

 

[STEADFAST]

Who are you talking to? Me? I just posted the video/article about the Yami that was talked about on Nancy's show. I don't know her. What????? Did you watch the video with Yami?

Oh, sorry. I didn't realize the part of your post with "We're working. . ." and "Our Yami . . " was a quotation, since it wasn't indicated as one. I thought it was you talking there. So, I was thinking 'Ransom's with FOX?'

Now my post would be, do you think Yami from FOX is really sharing all the information she gets with the Smiths?

 

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This is mostly an old article/news with some added.... who knows about accuracy though

http://www.abc15.com/content/news/s...sing-Tempe-infant/xgsbK2cK80iD5ZWBC0ifjg.cspx


snippets

According to police spokesperson Steve Carbajal, investigators believe Tammi and Jack Smith have undisclosed information that will lead them to baby Gabriel Johnson.

The Smiths had apparently tried to adopt the 8-month-old from mother Elizabeth Johnson last month, but Gabriel's father refused to sign the adoption papers.

When that father, Logan McQueary, tried to gain custody of Gabriel, 23-year-old Elizabeth apparently disappeared with the infant.

Carbajal said Elizabeth initially told authorities she gave her baby to a couple she met in San Antonio while on the run after skipping out on a custodial hearing in Phoenix.

"They wanted the baby and she simply gave it to them," said Bob Johnson, Elizabeth's grandfather. "It sounded like a pretty weak story. It was almost on the border of unbelievable that a person would do that with an 8-month-old child."

But Johnson also said he doesn't believe the Smiths had anything to do with Gabriel's disappearance.

"That's ridiculous.. no, god, no," he said.

Bob Johnson said Elizabeth met Tami Smith at an airport when Gabriel was just a month old. He said Gabriel was fussing and Tami came to help Elizabeth, and then cared for Gabriel the entire flight home. After that, they apparently kept in touch. ...

Elizabeth's twin brother, Robert Johnson, said he doesn't believe his sister's story, but also said he has to support her.

"She's stubborn and hard headed. If she doesn't want Logan to have the baby, she will do everything she can to keep Gabriel from Logan."

Someone commenting on this says:

Tune into Channel 5 Kpho (kpho.com) at 10:00pm tonight, More info is going to be aired about the Smiths


Which, I think would be in 15 minutes

 

[CHICANA]

I don't get Nancy's attitude tonight and it's making me furious. I know you guys already watched the show (I am watching the repeat)...just venting. She was so so rude to the Tempe PIO. I am really tired of this.

I know!! Maybe because she doesn't think she'll need him again ?
Every couple months I swear to WS and CNN that I'm not going to watch her anymore. I last until a case like this comes along (which seems to be pretty frequently these days). I'm glad none of you seem to remember or call me on it. Thanks.

 

[mysticrose]

Wow ! So I just got caught up, thanks to everyone for the NG show lol. I missed it tonight of all nights. POI the Smiths well I know I was not suprised, there is something very wrong with that woman.
When I listened to the interview with EJ from the jail , it was apparent to me that Mrs. Smith was leading her along. Another interesting point in that interview for me was when Mr.Smith told EJ that if they don't fing the baby they can charge her with murder you could have heard a pin drop at that moment in time. EJ has or had no clue at that time the extent of her problems. I still wonder if Mr. Smith knows the whole story, Mrs. Smith yes.
Her negativity from the start about Logan was a red flag to me she did not even know him.

It is possible EJ will bring this woman down and rat her out if EJ knows enough ... This girl truly believed imo , in her voice that this was a closed adoption and she felt she did nothing wrong. Mrs. Smith I feel has been feeding this little gal some BS topped with shrooms ...lol.

I certainly hope that Gabe is alive and no harm has come to him, I really don't hear that in EJ's voice but I have been wrong before,,
Mom didnt you send Tammi's MS and other links over to LE in AZ ?

 

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More comments (same cbs link) - I assume since this is public it is ok to post:

I HOPE THIS IS NOT ANOTHER SUSAN SMITH... I HOPE THEY FIND THE BOY SOON, ALIVE. THE FUNNY TWIST TO THIS STORY IS TAMMI AND JACK SMITH. I WILL TELLYOU ABOUT THE SO CALLED GOOD MOTHER, TAMMI. SHE IS MY X WIFE AND THE MOTHER OF OUR 3 WES I SAID 3 KIDS. SHE DID NOT RAISE HER OWN KIDS,WORK OR EVEN CLEAN OR COOK FOR THEM...I DID. SHE GAVE THEM UP AND TOLD MY WIFE AT THE TIME TO ADOPT THEM. SHE WAS MARRYING JACK AND HE DID NOT TO DEAL WITH THE CHILDREN,SO SHE CHOSE HIM OVER HER OWN CHILDREN. LIKE I SAID I HOPE THE BOY IS OK AND I HOPE TAMMI DOES NOT GET COSTUDY. THE OTHER CHILD THEY HAVE IS JACKS GRANDAUGHTER,THAT IS WHY THE HAVE HER. THEY CANT ADOPT THE NORMAL WAY...OH OH OH DID I MENTION THAT SHE HAS LITTLE OR NO CONTACT WITH HER 3 KIDS,TAMMI IS NOT FIT TO BE A MOTHER OF ANY KIDS