AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #10

[ExpectingUnicorns]

Is there a way that a facebook owner can discover the number of "hits" their page is accumulating?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Susan Smith => Closed eyes => Guilty

Ed Smart => Closed eyes => NOT Guilty

Sergio Celis => Closed eyes => ?

My dear sister in law does that and sometimes it bugs me but she is one of the most honest people I know. When I am standing there talking with her sometimes I think she is going to forget to open her eyes again! LMAO!

Everyone in the family talks about it jokingly and has even asked her why she does it and she doesnt know or even realizes she does it.

 

[dimples37398]

http://www.kvoa.com/livestream/

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[Lark2]

What I find strange about Becky and Sergio is also, as Lark said, they are "moving on".

Oh, hey, those aren't my words. Someone else's, perhaps? FWIW, I thought the family was committed and totally believable. They seem like wonderful people.

 

[Helenstreet]

Honestly, with every day that goes by, I lean more towards someone in the family being involved. Not only would it be the more common explanation, but it is where I think the facts are leading, and what my gut tells me. I want very much so for the family to not be involved. However, I am not going to be made to feel guilty for discussing my opinions on this case. With all due respect to everyone, this isn't the "Support parents of missing children no matter what" community. This is a discussion community about the case, and that is what we are doing. My heart breaks for them, regardless if they are involved or not, but I would really like to continue discussing all of our theories, without anyone implying they are bad for their suspicions.

This post is worthy of repeating, IN MY OPINION. Thank you, Lava for your respectfully honest post. :twocents:

 

[dimples37398]

I still don't believe Mom had anything to do with it, I can understand completely her saying that going back to work without Isa being home would seem like she is giving up on Isa coming home.

Sergio on the other hand, I am on the fence and there has been nothing so far to sway me either way with him.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

RAW: Celis parents talk to local news media
Three Parts

http://www.kvoa.com/full-coverage/finding-isabel/?a\#!prettyPhoto[gallery]/1/

http://www.kvoa.com/full-coverage/finding-isabel/?a\#!prettyPhoto[gallery]/2/

http://www.kvoa.com/full-coverage/finding-isabel/?a\#!prettyPhoto[gallery]/0/

I just love the way they both pronounce Isabel's name. It just seems so loving and endearing.

 

[Kimster]

We don't need visuals of religious disrespect. :nono:

 

[mck16]

My dear sister in law does that and sometimes it bugs me but she is one of the most honest people I know. When I am standing there talking with her sometimes I think she is going to forget to open her eyes again! LMAO!

Everyone in the family talks about it jokingly and has even asked her why she does it and she doesnt know or even realizes she does it.

One of the worst is Joel Osteen. Drives me nuts. But, I think it is a habit. I know I was shocked one time when I had the opportunity to see myself filmed. I didn't know I made have the faces I do or move my lips like I do. It was weird. We all have our own facial characteristics.. jmo

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

In an earlier post on this thread (#44), I mentioned that DH and I discussed a particular photo of Isabel that has been shown on news reports about the case. Without quoting a specific post here overnight or this morning, I would like reference the "dating site" that some have mentioned. I haven't seen it nor do I care to, but I have some thoughts about this that tie in to the parents' Today show interview. I'm still on the fence about Isabel's parents having hurt (or worse) their child, but I think it's possible that they are protecting another family member.

FWIW, both parents talked about Isabel's appearance. Mom called her a girly girl who likes to put on makeup, paint her nails, have her hair done. Dad gushed about "that face" and how beautiful Isabel is. They mentioned Isabel's brothers but made no mention of other friends with whom Isabel plays, nothing about school, not even anything about the baseball team and Isa's teammates. IMO, both parents seem overly concerned about their daughter's appearance. I'm reminded of JonBenet Ramsey all dolled-up and participating in pageants or clips that I've seen of the current TV show where little girls are being paraded around like sex objects.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least if we learn that Isabel had/has been molested by a family member, one of her teenage brother's friends, or a sex offender. I have a continuing thought about this but will keep it to myself. :moo:

Isa's mom ran for Miss Douglas , AZ, IIRC
JMO

 

[Jezbel]

I think that fashionable and culturally acceptable or not, it is disrespectful of a specific faith to misuse a religious token or artifact. If I wanted to make a bra top out of two yarmulkes, I doubt anyone would think that was cool. (but admittedly I am sorta giggling just typing that)

Just sayin'. And maybe some people don't know. But they should!


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:floorlaugh: I had the image of a yarmulke bra in my head.

 

[Lava]

She was SIX!
Early on the older brothers of someone she played with at the park during the ball game on the 20th spoke about her, but it would be pretty traumatic for a six-year old to have a camera and microphone shoved in their face as a reporter asks what they think happened to Isa, or if they miss her. I am sure the parents of her classmates and teammates have enough trouble as it is getting their kids to go to bed after this happened. I am sure they would rather keep their children from thinking about it or discussing it with reporters. I don't think it is typical to interview friends of a child this young. They spoke to one of Kyron Horman's classmates on TV and most of what he said was inaccurate.

I'm not saying they should have children in front of tv cameras or not. I'm saying it is weird we haven't seen that. It is something commonly seen in these cases. I'm just pointing out that we haven't seen that in this case.

 

[joedotnet]

Is there a way that a facebook owner can discover the number of "hits" their page is accumulating?

Nope.

 

[Gracelin]

http://www.kvoa.com/livestream/

PC stream

thank you!

 

[FrayedKnot]

Maybe they were never taught how to pray the rosary, but they recognize it as a physical manifestation of prayer. So they wear it. Maybe they have a special devotion to Mary.

It seems incredibly mean spirited to say they are just doing it for show, or statement. We know they are members of their parish, they are practicing somewhat. They are grasping for things related to their faith in a terrible time.

Love all the judging about people's religious practice. Ironic. Or maybe not. hoh:

Respectfully, I think that some devout Catholics on the board were saying they felt the wearing of a rosary as a necklace was disrespectful to their faith. Not everyone was judging, some were just pointing out that it was sacrilegious to everything they had been taught.

It is a fine thing to turn to religion when you need strength, but it is also important to observe the proper mode of worship, or it can be offense to the devout.

JMHO.


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[Lava]

Sat/Sun briefings will be 11am

 

[Lark2]

...I want very much so for the family to not be involved. However, I am not going to be made to feel guilty for discussing my opinions on this case. With all due respect to everyone, this isn't the "Support parents of missing children no matter what" community.

Touche. Last week it was all but impossible to post theories about family involvement (including creepy cousin) without a counter-post that attempted to nullify it.

IMO some folks here bring preconceived notions about a family's involvement and nothing - no new info, no new insight - will change that short of an arrest. But why the need to counter-post and state their position over and over?

Also, I don't say this because I have an anti-family agenda. I thought originally that dad might have been hiding something based on his first appearance, but after the last two appearances I believe he and his wife had nothing to do with anything. Cousin is a different story.

 

[FrayedKnot]

Also (and then I'm not talking religion anymore!), sometimes people don't MEAN to be offensive, they just don't know better. But you can't blame someone for being offended anyway! Ya know?

Any word from LE on that sketch in the 3 girls case?


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[MsFacetious]

This is notes/transcript from the "live event/interview today.

Nancy is going to have a field day with the "controlled" nature of this event. She said the Today show interview was "controlled." :what:
Not to mention she said the family was "in hiding" and now she will have ammunition for that one too. :banghead:

http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/150175035.html

The press conference took place at a Tucson Hotel under tightly controlled conditions.
Only one camera was allowed, and only one reporter from KOLD, KVOA and KGUN9 were allowed to enter the room and ask questions.
The Celis family selected the reporters.

At one point during the live event, a Phoenix-based reporter walked into the room and asked a question, one that had already been asked. :what:
Immediately afterwards, a Tucson police officer escorted that reporter from the room. :waitasec:

Because of security concerns and concerns for the privacy of Rebecca and Sergio Celis, KGUN9 News has agreed to withhold the location where the press conference took place.
KGUN9 News has confirmed, however, that NBC News has been paying for the Celis family to stay at the hotel.

I'm pretty sure I was putting myself to bed around 6 all by myself. I'd say goodnight to my parents downstairs and head on up. I think this varies by kid/family a lot.

I put myself to bed at 6... but I also put my baby brother to bed at 6 and changed his diapers.
And when he was 6, he was telling ME what his plans were. Parents? Nah. Dad worked and the woman was just useless.
It is nice to see that Isa had a parent to even inform she was going to bed. Sure would have been nice if I had one who cared that much.

You don't care if it makes them feel better?

Wow, nice attitude. :what:

This attitude is a good example of why so many of us Catholics lapse. :innocent:

What's funny though, is that not even the most traditionalist priest would be as judgemental about this as some of the folks in this thread are being.

I can see myself wearing a rosary to avoid losing it. Just that simple. If it was important to me I'd wear it around my neck so it didn't fall.
I am not a person who follows "typical" rules. I do things MY way and if people don't like it, that certainly isn't MY problem.

Unfortunately... the attitudes like this are why I absolutely won't touch religion with a 10 foot pole.
The way I was treated for not giving my daughter up for adoption proved to me... that I would never be able to fit into a religion. :twocents:

 

[ccorbin24]

In Regards to the status update change for ML=Google search reveals...it is words to a song that is rather disturbing. IMO