AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #12

[thefragile7393]

Not looking good but I have learned not to assume anything. CPS involvement may not have anything to do her disappearance...or it may. I need more info before forming an educated opinion.....I don't like to go off emotion since my experiences in life and stuff I've read about color my opinion.
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[SmoothOperator]

Tucson Police tell News 4 the parents are living separately because of this and one of the parents is not allowed any kind of contact.

CPS involvement is OK and could be even seen as a SOP. for reasons such as a parent being suicidal or something similar with one of the boys speaking of harming himself.. the above quote IMO is in no way whatsoever STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE EVER.. in fact itz pretty damn hard to take the rights of a parent away and I'm not saying as in permanently remove.. but even temporarily you've got to have beyond dire situations in order to have A ZERO CONTACT POLICY IN PLACE WHERE A PARENT CAN HAVE ZERO CONTACT.. MEANING they cannot so much as Call and leave the child a message.. no text.. no email. No written letters.. no communicating through third parties such as the parent telling Aunt Jojo to tell one of the boys that the parent says, "hi! "..there is zero contact for this parent.. I will not even attempt to speculate on what it is that has brought about this extremely unusual.. extremely drastic.. and extremely dire measure that has been taken by CPS ..

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

I have always wanted to believe that this was a stable family. It appeared so from all outside resources.

We can deduce, from the latest information concerning CPS, that that is no longer true. If an order is in place that one parent is prohibited from contact with the children ~ that this parent is under suspicion.

These are my thoughts. I cannot have helped but noticed that Becky's coworkers and friends have been forefront, strong and vocal in supporting her and the family. No half-steps at all. But we are still not even sure of where her husband even works. There have been a lot of questions, perhaps whispered and insinuated, about Sergio. The opera has supported him but not his workforce nor personal friends that I am aware of.

I am not saying that this makes him guilty by any means! I'm also not saying that this means he is the parent who is not allowed contact with the children.

Only my speculation that he appears to be the parent with the weakest support at this time.

OMGosh, I want the family to be innocent! I hate thinking that another child might have been abused/killed by her own family. I am sick of evil being disguised as love.

 

[joedotnet]

Did we ever get confirmation that Becky saw Isa at HOME the night she went missing? Not at the ball field, but at her actual home?

 

[pieper4]

KGUN, KVOA, and KOLD are all reputable news sources here. But all are somewhat "part time", meaning not staffed on the weekends very well. I would not rely on any of their sites from midday Friday through Monday, truthfully. Their broadcasts, perhaps, but not their websites. All have been known to be woefully slow in reporting/updating off hours...

 

[katydid23]

Yes but its better to think of the worst possible thing and conclude the father is a monster.

I don't think he is a monster. I think he might be hiding something though.

If it was just an issue of grief, I don't think it would be communicated in this way to the public or handled in this way.JMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

But if that's what happened (even if it's her, not him), would LE announce it to the media?

Or maybe this happened days ago, on the hush-hush, and now the assessment has resulted in a hospitalization for however long.

I think so. They know the media would eventually notice if they saw the family that one of the parents wasnt with the boys.

IMO

 

[katydid23]

Did we ever get confirmation that Becky saw Isa at HOME the night she went missing? Not at the ball field, but at her actual home?

She supposedly braided her hair. IIRC

 

[dog.gone.cute]

"Tucson Police tell News 4 the parents are living separately because of this and one of the parents is not allowed any kind of contact."

http://www.kvoa.com/full-coverage/finding-isabel/

BBM:

:seeya: Thank you for this update ...

:waitasec: It was obvious that "something was up" when LE brought Becky and Sergio to the home SEPARATELY -- in separate vehicles -- and interviewed them in the home SEPARATELY ...

:waitasec: I wonder WHERE they are living "separately" ? Are they still at the hotel ? Has either one of the Celis' returned to the home ?

I wish there was a good investigative reporter 'on the ground' trying to "dig up" more info ...

:moo:

 

[joedotnet]

She supposedly braided her hair. IIRC

Did she say that or did we assume that since the description said her hair was braided? Sorry, I'm on my phone and hard to search. Thanks!

 

[katydid23]

Maybe I am being naive as well....

I want to know why KVOA has this "exclusive" from TPD, when TPD has been "close to the vest" and essentially treating all local media equally.
IN this case, we have not heard one local media outlet have a TPD scoop on another.

"Tucson Police tell News 4 the parents are living separately because of this and one of the parents is not allowed any kind of contact"

This part after 22 days of watching endless pressers with no information --really puts the H in hinky for me.

That is true. It does seem odd. But it sure seems like a huge gaffe to print something like that without something to back it up. I would be surprised if they did that without having some kind of valid source. But it does happen sometimes.

 

[curiousc]

Whoa! What is going on right now? The boys are placed with one parent?

Ok, trying so hard not to place my suspicions as my own mother had a breakdown in December and was in the hospital for three months. Some people can only take so much.

However, throughout all of this I keep thinking about the neighbor saying she heard voices at 6:30 a.m. and I keep thinking of LE not clearing anyone, no results of the poly being told from the parents and the question a reporter asked LE about whether there was surveillance on Sergio.

Oh boy!

 

[LisaB]

Did we ever get confirmation that Becky saw Isa at HOME the night she went missing? Not at the ball field, but at her actual home?

Sergio says she braided Isa's hair before bed.

 

[PAXIMUS]

I don't think he is a monster. I think he might be hiding something though.

If it was just an issue of grief, I don't think it would be communicated in this way to the public or handled in this way.JMO

Understood, I am not going to lie to you, I am a man and 99% of the people in this thread are likely women and yes it chaps my to no end that everyone automatically jumps to the conclusion that it is the father.

It may be the father but we do not know, in fact BECKY the mother has MORE RECENT criminal charges INCLUDING CHILD ENDANGERMENT than Sergio does, all of Sergio's charges where when he was like 22 years old her was like 8 years ago long after it would be expected that one would grow out of doing the sort of stupid crap you do when youre young, like Sergio did.

This may be a case where one parents is simply depressed maybe drinking heavily and it isnt doing the kids any good to be around it, if my kid was missing I would be a freaking basketcase too, Who knows what is going on.

Yes I understand we are all here to speculate and throw out what we think is happening but that still doesnt mean it doesnt chap my as a man when everyone blames the father immediately without any evidence to suggest he did anything wrong.

Just my two cents dont pay any attention to me...

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Sergio says she braided Isa's hair before bed.

And Becky was sitting right there beside him when he talked about her braiding Isa 's hair.

IMO

 

[galiuro]

It is not just kvoa, kold has it up now...kvoa tends to scoop the others...and this is from a kold fan, I prefer their peeps but kvoa tends to break news faster than the others

 

[Prof]

She supposedly braided her hair. IIRC

Right...somewhere between 10 pm and 11 pm, Isa's mom braided her hair, according to Sergio and the LL coach. (Coach says everyone left around the same time about 10 pm). Sergio says Isa went to be around 11 pm after her mom braided her hair.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Wow...not allowed ANY KIND of contact?

Was one parent telling the children what to say? Feeding them a story? So they can't even talk on the phone? What the heck??

:seeya: That is a good possibility ...

I wonder IF it POSSIBLY has to do with the 9-1-1 call ? Last night, the Scanner info hit the MSM -- I know y'all had it here for weeks ...

The 9-1-1 call has NOT been released -- and there was speculation as to WHO made that call ...

JMO and MOO ...

 

[curiousc]

Understood, I am not going to lie to you, I am a man and 99% of the people in this thread are likely women and yes it chaps my to no end that everyone automatically jumps to the conclusion that it is the father.

It may be the father but we do not know, in fact BECKY the mother has MORE RECENT criminal charges INCLUDING CHILD ENDANGERMENT than Sergio does, all of Sergio's charges where when he was like 22 years old her was like 8 years ago long after it would be expected that one would grow out of doing the sort of stupid crap you do when youre young, like Sergio did.

This may be a case where one parents is simply depressed maybe drinking heavily and it isnt doing the kids any good to be around it, if my kid was missing I would be a freaking basketcase too, Who knows what is going on.

Yes I understand we are all here to speculate and throw out what we think is happening but that still doesnt mean it doesnt chap my as a man when everyone blames the father immediately without any evidence to suggest he did anything wrong.

Just my two cents dont pay any attention to me...

BBM
You do make a good point there!

 

[pieper4]

It is not just kvoa, kold has it up now...kvoa tends to scoop the others...and this is from a kold fan, I prefer their peeps but kvoa tends to break news faster than the others

Here, here on KOLD.