AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #19

[luvmydogs]

yes, that is her bedroom. (according to the neighbor)

Middle east bedroom, the bedroom in the middle, between the den and the other bedroom. On the opposite side of master bedroom.

 

[Prof]

I guess it is up for interpretation...how one reads every thing that has come out, as visible blood on Isa's floor, a fingerprint on the window, shoeprints on the electrical box, and shoe prints in the alleyway don't point a light on the parents in my viewpoint.

We don't know the details of what the coach said.

 

[luvmydogs]

I don't recall them discussing luminol in the boys' room. You are correct, they would never discuss the condition of Isabel's room.

Becky stated in the interview that there were chemicals used in the boys room.

 

[Prof]

I think if forensics found anything in those items in the car, the car would have been towed in a long time ago...IMO

 

[Shelby2]

Thanks so much for transcribing the news tonight! goodnight

 

[Anita Richman]

I was looking at early news stories (first two days) this morning, and I noted the trash can inside the yard, right by the big gate on west side of back yard, so it does appear that the family uses that gate. Like Taminator pointed out, why pass her over a wall when the gate is nearby, if they were trying to sneak her out the back way.

The gate is large, and bulky. It didn't appear to have any grooves in the dirt as if it was used often. (Of course, I was observing it from the street, so take my comment with a grain of salt.) The master bedroom is left of the gate, if you are facing it (the gate is on the western wall, on the south end of it). It might make more noise than just hoisting her over the wall. IMO.

 

[makayla]

they found a pink shirt in an alley :what:

didn't Dad say Isa was wearing a pink shirt the last time he saw her even though Mom described Isa's shirt as an Old Navy with American flag??? I wonder who really saw Isa last?

 

[CA Lady]

There are three rooms on the east side...the middle of those 3 rooms is Isa's room.

You are so correct and I tried to edit my post. Sorry for my causing confusion. :truce:

 

[prima.facie]

I think if forensics found anything in those items in the car, the car would have been towed in a long time ago...IMO

you make a valid point....

but the stuff "found" in the car is still hinky IMO....

 

[Pensfan]

I don't recall them discussing luminol in the boys' room. You are correct, they would never discuss the condition of Isabel's room.

Rebecca stated that she couldn't take her boys back to the house because of the dangerous chemicals that LE had used in their rooms (even though Luminol can be cleaned with household detergent).

 

[prima.facie]

they found a pink shirt in an alley :what:

didn't Dad say Isa was wearing a pink shirt the last time he saw her even though Mom described Isa's shirt as an Old Navy with American flag??? I wonder who really saw Isa last?

where did that info come from?? source please

 

[GutFeeling!]

I'm new at this, please be gentle with me. In this picture from Googlemaps, I've circled and starred Isa's approximate room location in red. The electrical box is in red, the garbage can is labeled "G.C." and the breeze way next door is highlighted and labeled "B.W.". If there is anything I can try and explain, I'll be happy to do it.

Excellent for a virgin lol Thanks Anita!

 

[Pensfan]

they found a pink shirt in an alley :what:

didn't Dad say Isa was wearing a pink shirt the last time he saw her even though Mom described Isa's shirt as an Old Navy with American flag??? I wonder who really saw Isa last?

The brother also gave a different description of what Isabel was last seen wearing. His description didn't match mom's or dad's.

 

[Prof]

The gate is large, and bulky. It didn't appear to have any grooves in the dirt as if it was used often. (Of course, I was observing it from the street, so take my comment with a grain of salt.) The master bedroom is left of the gate, if you are facing it (the gate is on the western wall, on the south end of it). It might make more noise than just hoisting her over the wall. IMO.

Thanks. Were the hinges on the outside? so it swings out to the street, rather than in on the yard? Would there not be a law that regulates such a large wooden gate? I would think it would not be okay to swing into the street.

Here's the video with trash can on inside of yard
http://www.azfamily.com/news/Message-from-famliy-of-missing-Tucson-girl-148624435.html

 

[Pensfan]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh WTF...

so luminol picked up blood in the CAR...and....a SHOWER CURTAIN w/ spots was taken from the CAR?

wtf is a shower curtain in the car??

sooo...

*blood found in isa's room
*blood found in car
*shower curtain found in car

and the sum of all of that is..................... ?

im teetering on this fence.... *need more info please* lol

IMO, the cadaver dog definitely made a hit in that house as LE hinted. Nobody abducts a dead child.

 

[Anita Richman]

I think if forensics found anything in those items in the car, the car would have been towed in a long time ago...IMO

Ahh, good point! On that topic, I read somewhere in this thread earlier that a poster thought that the red car had moved over time. From the first few (maybe the 3rd day) days, I've noticed the car in the same spot (next to the driveway, in the front side yard). That is up until the last candlelight vigil, last Friday night. I haven't been past there, since.

 

[Anita Richman]

IMO, the cadaver dog definitely made a hit in that house as LE hinted. Nobody abducts a dead child.

But they still called it an "abduction", as recently as last week.

 

[pieper4]

Wow. KOLD totally scooped either KGUN or KVOA in terms of online reporting. I'm impressed.

 

[Prof]

We are watching live streaming local news and transcribing it here...
at least that is what I am doing

Here's a source for pink top in another alley...(not Celis alley)
http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com

 

[Dr. Know?]

A lock on the latch of the gate would stop it from being used plus the cameras could pick them up possibly. Any camera pointing towards their house seems to have been avoided by using the alley way.