AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #19

[pieper4]

Wow. A MySpace ad. Very weird.

 

[Anita Richman]

:moo:

I have used one as a drop cloth for painting, too.

But have you ever transported one in your car?

Only when I was sending a box of give-aways to the Salvation Army.

 

[Pensfan]

where did that info come from?? source please

Source for "dad reported last seeing Isabel in a pink shirt":
http://www.examiner.com/article/isabel-celis-transcription-of-911-calls-released-by-police

 

[pieper4]

Only when I was sending a box of give-aways to the Salvation Army.

Good take. Could be they were stashing stuff in the beater car to donate...

I am fascinated about the $175K loan mentioned upthread. Anything more on that?

 

[simlyme]

where did that info come from?? source please

911 calls, they all said something different.

 

[Anita Richman]

Well, if the case could have been solved by this info, IMO it would have been. I just hope RC isn't calling SC right now asking him why the heck he had a shower curtain in his car.

Or SC calling "Coach Mark T" to ask him "what the HELL...":what:

 

[Jules71]

Saying now live Sergio borrowed $175K to his employer per a coworker. Not substantiated. Someone else called & said he owed someone a lot of money...

Sergio borrowed $175k FROM his employer? Hmmm. We haven't heard anything from his employer have we? As in no public show of support? Wonder if they are staying out of the spotlight for a reason?

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[Dr. Know?]

Good take. Could be they were stashing stuff in the beater car to donate...

I am fascinated about the $175K loan mentioned upthread. Anything more on that?

I'm interested too! It was a call/tip they investigated & it's in the docs.

 

[Jules71]

Wow. A MySpace ad. Very weird.

What?

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[Lava]

Sergio borrowed $175k FROM his employer? Hmmm. We haven't heard anything from his employer have we? As in no public show of support? Wonder if they are staying out of the spotlight for a reason?

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If this is true it goes against their (paraphrasing"We've never had to borrow money"...........so weird. This case is all over the place.

 

[pieper4]

We kind of have to "assume" that these released documents were deemed dead ends to a degree. In which case, there is some relief. This is all so orchestrated by LE.

 

[Prof]

I wish you could be there, I'm a little skeered to go by myself. But for the interest of discussion, I'll "take one for the team". P.s. I did notice that the camera ontop of the home was still pointing skyward when I went by last week. I wonder if my cellphone will be able to capture a good photo of that? I'll try.

No biggie...


I wonder if you'd mind adding to your very helpful google map, where the camera exactly was located...
I know it was on the part of the decorative structre that rises from the roof, but which side of the house...

 

[Lava]

I don't think this information is useless. Some of this could be key evidence but they don't need it to remain a secret. If they have a solid case they could be hours or days away from an arrest. I guarantee that if they have a suspect they have them under surveillance.

 

[Jules71]

But nothing we have seen in writing anywhere yet right? So we should be able yo see it tomorrow?

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[pieper4]

What?

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LOL... sorry. In the midst of reading, I had a MySpace ad pop up on WS. Never seen that before. Hope it's not a gremlin.

 

[Anita Richman]

Wow. A MySpace ad. Very weird.

Where?

 

[Prof]

Sergio borrowed $175k FROM his employer? Hmmm. We haven't heard anything from his employer have we? As in no public show of support? Wonder if they are staying out of the spotlight for a reason?

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What I heard KOLD report was that someone called in a tip that SC had borrowed that from TMC people, but the TMC people denied it.
They had many tips called in about money owed that could not be substantiated, is what I heard.

 

[GrainneDhu]

Personally.. JMO of course but if I knew information that could help get my child back... I really wouldn't care at all what LE told me about what they prefer me not to talk about. We live in a country of Free Speech and if I felt pleading to the media everything I could to contribute to finding the kid, I would.

It usually takes months rather than weeks for parents to get to the point where they start looking outside of LE for answers. You may well behave differently but the vast majority of families don't turn to PIs or releasing information to the media without LE okay for a matter of months or even years after the crime.

For instance, the Smart family knew for months that their daughter and eyewitness had identified "Emmanuel" as the man who had abducted Elizabeth. LE refused to pursue it as a serious lead, so the Smarts got their own sketch and after four months, released it to the public.

The Smarts completely believed their daughter, they believed she was correct but it was still very, very difficult for them to do something that LE did not give approval for.

For the vast majority of families, LE is their only hope. They deeply fear that if they do something LE does not approve of, then their loved one's case will stop being a priority.

 

[pieper4]

TMC isn't even his employer, so yeah... Or is it? We don't know. Do they have dental surgery at TMC?

 

[Jules71]

LOL... sorry. In the midst of reading, I had a MySpace ad pop up on WS. Never seen that before. Hope it's not a gremlin.

Ha ha - I thought I missed something (AGAIN). LOL

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