AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #19

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  • #921
They did receive compensation from them, however. This DOES matter to people and helps mold their perception of the Celises and their intentions. That is why media addressed the issue.

I'm not picking on you but what does using a motel for an interview say about their character?

To me, it seems like they didn't want an interview in their house, which to me is understandable. That leaves having it at a family member's home which I wouldn't want either, or outside for the public to see which I'm sure the NBC producer didn't want to happen.

NBC probably said to them, "Hey, we'll pay for a motel to do the interview". I see nothing sinister in that. That's just my opinion, of course.
 
  • #922
This may be just me but, I really don't consider the Celis house to be anywhere near huge or extremely expensive. Of course, that is all relative.


Of course it's relative. However, 3802 sq. ft. is considered pretty large by most folks. $435,000 is considered expensive around Tucson, especially for a nurse and surg assist. Also, if you look at the rest of the houses on E. 12th (with the exception of the one directly across the street), it absolutely stands out as a newer (by decades) and much larger house.
 
  • #923
Meh, it's more of a "define 'compensation'" a la Clinton argument.

I think it was deceptive, personally, and I do consider it compensation, but some may argue that since nobody wrote the Celises a check, it doesn't count. JMO
BBM

I would.
 
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FrayedKnot, im in tucson and its 8:21 now. :)
 
  • #926
I'm not picking on you but what does using a motel for an interview say about their character?

To me, it seems like they didn't want an interview in their house, which to me is understandable. That leaves having it at a family member's home which I wouldn't want either, or outside for the public to see which I'm sure the NBC producer didn't want to happen.

NBC probably said to them, "Hey, we'll pay for a motel to do the interview". I see nothing sinister in that. That's just my opinion, of course.


It was stated to be a hotel, not a motel. That isn't just semantic hairsplitting; there is a world of difference between the two.

IMO the Celises should have been forthcoming and just revealed it. "NBC paid for our hotel room to use as a venue for the interview" would have sufficed. Instead, they denied receiving compensation which isn't exactly true. JMO.
 
  • #927
Of course it's relative. However, 3802 sq. ft. is considered pretty large by most folks. $435,000 is considered expensive around Tucson, especially for a nurse and surg assist. Also, if you look at the rest of the houses on E. 12th (with the exception of the one directly across the street), it absolutely stands out as a newer (by decades) and much larger house.

I think their house is actually around 2400 sq.ft.
 
  • #928
Im very anxious to read these reports, as im sure most here are
I hope there is something there
 
  • #929
Of course it's relative. However, 3802 sq. ft. is considered pretty large by most folks. $435,000 is considered expensive around Tucson, especially for a nurse and surg assist. Also, if you look at the rest of the houses on E. 12th (with the exception of the one directly across the street), it absolutely stands out as a newer (by decades) and much larger house.

Edited to add: EquineLuvr, I didn't intend my first post to you to sound rude, I've been meaning to address this all evening! Welcome to the board.

There is NO WAY that house is 3800 square feet. I'll eat the hat I'm wearing if it's 3000!:moo:
 
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I'm not picking on you but what does using a motel for an interview say about their character?

To me, it seems like they didn't want an interview in their house, which to me is understandable. That leaves having it at a family member's home which I wouldn't want either, or outside for the public to see which I'm sure the NBC producer didn't want to happen.

NBC probably said to them, "Hey, we'll pay for a motel to do the interview". I see nothing sinister in that. That's just my opinion, of course.

I think some of us believe that hotel room was not just for the interview, but they were temporary staying there, which is fine. However the Celis went into detail about how they didnt recieve compensation for the nbc interview and how they have never needed financial help. However, IMO, they did recieve compensation and therefore they lied. And unfortunately when you lie about one thing its hard to believe you about anything else.
 
  • #932
It was stated to be a hotel, not a motel. That isn't just semantic hairsplitting; there is a world of difference between the two.

IMO the Celises should have been forthcoming and just revealed it. "NBC paid for our hotel room to use as a venue for the interview" would have sufficed. Instead, they denied receiving compensation which isn't exactly true. JMO.

Sorry, I wasn't "semantic hairsplitting", I just misspoke...

They could have been more forthcoming or, most likely, it could have been the furthest thing from their mind when they were asked that question.

I'm just saying that there have been other instances of parents of missing children taking money in a much more obvious way than what this situation is presenting to us. Like I said, this to me is just not sinister. JMO.
 
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There is NO WAY that house is 3800 square feet. I'll eat the hat I'm wearing if it's 3000!:moo:

Is your hat made of chocolate? Because if it is, I will help you eat it. :)

Sorry. I'm kinda hongray......
 
  • #935
Another officer wrote that he was sent to a motel in the 3300 block of East Benson Highway. Someone called 911 saying he had Isabel and if police did not respond in 10 minutes he would kill her. The officer searched the area and questioned people staying in the motel but nothing suspicious was found.

OMG some people are crazy.

At least they weren't at the Circle K.
 
  • #936
"Another officer wrote that he was assigned to stop people entering and leaving a neighborhood at 12th Street and Van Buren Avenue, east of Isabel’s house, on April 24. His report listed all the people he spoke with, the reason they were driving or walking in the area. Most said they were going to work, school, visiting relatives or running errands.

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/cri...cle_b5e5f172-a612-11e1-84ee-001a4bcf887a.html


Wonder why that neighborhood?

That's Isa's closest streets, she lives on 12th & that side street comes up as Van Buren on google maps.
 
  • #937
So, I'm on CDT, and it's 10:13 here.
Is AZ same as Pacific when it's DST, and Mountain when it's Standard?

What time does your evening news air, 11? Which means I'd have to stay up til 1 am my time! Augh!

*head falls off*

I see the time on your post as 8:16 pm, so you are two hours ahead of us. Our news comes on at 10, but there is one channel that comes on at 9--the local Fox channel which is part of Tucson News Now/KOLD (CBS).

Darn, I'm confusing myself now.
 
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This may be just me but, I really don't consider the Celis house to be anywhere near huge or extremely expensive. Of course, that is all relative.

I heard the house cost $500,000 in 2006/7, pretty steep for a nurse and a dental assistant. They had to have a huge downpayment.
 
  • #940
I see the time on your post as 8:16 pm, so you are two hours ahead of us. Our news comes on at 10, but there is one channel that comes on at 9--the local Fox channel which is part of Tucson News Now/KOLD (CBS).

Darn, I'm confusing myself now.

No! That makes total sense! Thank you! I was afraid your news came on at 11 and that's past my bedtime. :(.

I can hang on for another 30 mins, though! :p
 
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