AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #19

[Prof]

are there actual docs posted anywhere yet?

 

[GutFeeling!]

Wow. KOLD totally scooped either KGUN or KVOA in terms of online reporting. I'm impressed.

If I get papers in my hand late in the afternoon I stay till I have read it all lol

 

[Lava]

IMO I think it is pretty convenient that SC didn't actually go to his and RCs bedroom until 5am on the day his daughter disappeared.

(http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/153931355.html)

 

[Jules71]

, "Overall interior views of the residence including views of items of evidence as marked by detectives on scene and overall views of the middle east bedroom including views of apparent blood on the floor."

http://m.wdam.com/autojuice?targetU...ory/18621086/550-pages-released-in-celis-case

Bumping for the link.

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[makayla]

We kind of have to "assume" that these released documents were deemed dead ends to a degree. In which case, there is some relief. This is all so orchestrated by LE.

I agree, and I think they are releasing them to (a) see what the parents' reactions are and (b) to satisfy the public's curiosity - it's like an appetizer to tide us over . . . :smile:

JMO of course!

ETA: Just heard that some parts of these reports have been redacted to preserve the evidence (heard on one of the news programs, can't recall which one right now), so perhaps these are not dead ends, but instead they do contain vital information, but we can't view it - I guess we will see tomorrow when they are put up online

 

[Dr. Know?]

These are intersting but probably not..

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/story/18621086/550-pages-released-in-celis-case

UPDATE: One detective reported a positive Luminol reason on the "driver's seat of the Toyota Corolla," that was at the residence. Luminol is used in forensic investigations to identify traces of blood.

Multiple potential sightings were reported including one from the Tivoli Gardens Restaurant in Surprise, AZ. A person notified police saying, "A stocky man in his middle or late 30's was more or less dragging a small girl fitting the description of (Isabel) out of the Tivoli Gardens. I held the exit/front door open for them, but thought it a bit unusual...the little girl was essentially dragged out by the hand before she could respond to my salutation."

 

[GrainneDhu]

seriously....how does a napper clean up while carrying a child whom they have to keep quiet and still (unless she was drugged)....but still how does one clean up after themselves with other people in the house...youd think they want in and out super quick....

Wear gloves and a hair net or close fitting hat that prevents hair from falling off. Make sure everything you're wearing was bought at Wal-Mart or a similar high volume retailer.

Don't sneeze.

 

[makayla]

I don't think this information is useless. Some of this could be key evidence but they don't need it to remain a secret. If they have a solid case they could be hours or days away from an arrest. I guarantee that if they have a suspect they have them under surveillance.

surveillance? . . . absolutely!

 

[Lava]

"Scores of evidence were collected around southern Arizona including a multicolored blanket on an Interstate 10 ramp off the Irvington exit and a doll lying in front of a person's home."

I'm sure those in the basement remember this moment.

http://m.wdam.com/autojuice?targetU...ory/18621086/550-pages-released-in-celis-case

 

[prima.facie]

IMO I think it is pretty convenient that SC didn't actually go to his and RCs bedroom until 5am on the day his daughter disappeared.

(http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/153931355.html)

and now does everyone see why i was BEGGING for them to speak and give us DETAILS of that night?

im in agreement w/ you lava.....

Sergio tells police he fell asleep on the couch in the family room until 5 a.m. That's when he woke up to join Rebecca in bed the morning Isabel disappeared. He tells police the window was closed the last time he saw Isabel.

THIS is one of the questions we have all been asking thruout 19 threads!!

 

[WhatsupAZ]

Oh my gosh, I just dont think I will be able to stomach nancy disgrace tomorrow when she gets her hands on this stuff. (but of course i'm gonna watch)

 

[Pensfan]

Good take. Could be they were stashing stuff in the beater car to donate...

I am fascinated about the $175K loan mentioned upthread. Anything more on that?

They somehow live in a 3000+ square foot home (that God only knows how they afford). How could they be short of space to stack their Salvation Army clothing/shower curtain donations?

 

[Lava]

and now does everyone see why i was BEGGING for them to speak and give us DETAILS of that night?

im in agreement w/ you lava.....



THIS is one of the questions we have all been asking thruout 19 threads!!

Yep. A very strange circumstance. I can completely see why the family hasn't been cleared yet. Poor Isabel.

 

[Prof]

"Police have also collected footprints around several key locations. Exact addresses still not available. What's described as "apparent blood" was also found on the floor of an unspecified residence. Police also checked for semen samples.

The reports reveal a thorough investigation, one where police have looked into every lead that's come in no matter how far fetched."

http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/153931355.html

Also key parts of reports were redacted... according to this story

 

[prima.facie]

Yep. A very strange circumstance. I can completely see why the family hasn't been cleared yet. Poor Isabel.

grrrrrrr....if only we could read all of this!
(taken from the site you linked)

 

[Anita Richman]

No biggie...


I wonder if you'd mind adding to your very helpful google map, where the camera exactly was located...
I know it was on the part of the decorative structre that rises from the roof, but which side of the house...

IBM

Flattery will get you anything! lol

The large circle with "c" in the middle is the general area where the camera was. I can't be more specific until I see it again. The red box with "R.C." is the red car in the driveway, where it's been since the beginning days of this case up until last week. The breezeway between the neighbor "AS" home and the Celis wall is "B.W.", the electic box is "E.B.", the garbage can "G.C.", the gate is in blue and labeled "W.G." and the red circle and starred area is the approximate location of Isa's room.

 

[twall]

Sergio tells police he fell asleep on the couch in the family room until 5 a.m. That's when he woke up to join Rebecca in bed the morning Isabel disappeared. He tells police the window was closed the last time he saw Isabel.

http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/153931355.html

ok, now we know SC told LE he was asleep on the couch in the family room until 5am.

Patty G.-the video in the above report has a shot of the back of the house that shows the door to the den. I recall you were asking to see it.

 

[Lava]

Police have also collected footprints around several key locations. Exact addresses still not available. What's described as "apparent blood" was also found on the floor of an unspecified residence. Police also checked for semen samples.

The reports reveal a thorough investigation, one where police have looked into every lead that's come in no matter how far fetched.

http://www.kgun9.com/news/local/153931355.html

Also key parts of reports were redacted... according to this story

I'm wondering if this is why they have done it. To prepare the public for a coming arrest, to show them they looked at everything. It could fit for arresting a stranger, or family member - but to me, this is what it seems like. LE has been so tight lipped, but now they are releasing all of this. I really think an arrest is coming very soon.

 

[twall]

"Scores of evidence were collected around southern Arizona including a multicolored blanket on an Interstate 10 ramp off the Irvington exit and a doll lying in front of a person's home."

I'm sure those in the basement remember this moment.

http://m.wdam.com/autojuice?targetU...ory/18621086/550-pages-released-in-celis-case

I do! I do! lol Never heard another thing about that darn blanket and voila-there it is!

 

[Prof]

Thanks, Anita!

I just sort of wondered if one could see it from the east side back alley.