AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - #19

[Prof]

This is what has us all going in circles. I read this morning that the blood was not in IC's room. I read it here on WS. wow, such confusion. jmo

Last night we were reporting what the LIVE local news were reporting reading the docs ...lots of room for confusion there...
This morning all we have is print paraphrase of reports as far as I have seen...still lots of room for confusion there...
KOLD promised actual docs available on their website by this afternoon, so I hope there is hope...

 

[oceanblueeyes]

This is what has us all going in circles. I read this morning that the blood was not in IC's room. I read it here on WS. wow, such confusion. jmo

Maybe I am confused too.

I think I read when they got the SW on the home just south of the Celis home because the K-9 dogs scented a trail close to the home and they found blood there in that home. (Must have turned out to be benign.)

And then they did say they found blood in Isa' room.

Do you think he could have been holding a knife to her neck to keep her quiet and compliant and the tip pierced her neck?

IMO

 

[joedotnet]

my hinky meter goes up when SC conveniently goes to his bedroom at 5am. imo

 

[mck16]

Maybe I am confused too.

I think I read when they got the SW on the home just south of the Celis home because the K-9 dogs scented a trail close to the home and they found blood there in that home. (Must have turned out to be benign.)

And then they did say they found blood in Isa' room.

Do you think he could have been holding a knife to her neck to keep her quiet and compliant and the tip pierced her neck?

IMO

I believe they said they got IC's scent out of the house and down the street. That is why they got another warrant to search the house down the street. I thought it was he RSO's house, but not sure. jmo

 

[Prof]

There is no meter in the box, there is a cable hookup that services anywhere from 2 to 8 homes, the box has no direct link with any one home... there are any number of possibilities for a cable tech to have been in the box.

The police reports according to news reports are discussing two things... very different things... The box in the alley behind the house, which is what I believe this posts references, AND the gas meter on the side of the house, which was what was being discussed at the moment as far as I could see.

Just trying to clear some possible confusion.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

We would an "abductor" stand on the meter anyway? Red herring IMO.

In order to make it easier to jump over a wall or easier for them to see into the windows when casing the place out? Yes, I think so.

IMO

 

[makayla]

I think LE would know if they were or werent. They have had plenty of time to look at their bank statements.

I dont see anything that shows me they lived beyond their means.

They werent lavish or living in a large home.

IMO

The Celis family live in a decent sized home - in AZ, our property values have taken a HUGE dive - they purchased at the top of the market and now their home is worth a lot less - this may or may not affect their finances - if their income has remained stable and they are able to continue to pay their mortgage, they may not have financial difficulties, but if there has been any change to their income, they are underwater in their mortgage, which would present a problem, so we don't know if they are now living beyond their means or not. Obviously LE knows all the details by now and have taken this into consideration during their investigation.

My point is many people are now living beyond their means due to our current economy - homes values have drastically decreased in certain areas, some people have taken pay cuts, 401Ks have been devalued and yet the overall cost of living has risen. There are many more foreclosures and bankruptcies, and those greatly affected are the unlucky ones who purchased at the top of the market. JMO

 

[Patty G]

Prof,
I found the closer picture of the meter, or whatever it is.

 

[Lark2]

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/missing-girl-isabel-celis-evidence-revealed-16429149

"One report talks of photograpghs of overall views of the middle-east bedroom, including views of apparent blood on the floor. The room with the apparent blood, according to blueprints, is that is the missing six-year-old's."

Hate to quite myself but I just want to clarify that the word apparent jumped out at me because it was APPARENT, not latent. In other words, enough to be seen by the naked eye.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I believe they said they got IC's scent out of the house and down the street. That is why they got another warrant to search the house down the street. I thought it was he RSO's house, but not sure. jmo

Now wouldnt that be a coincidence if it just happened to be his home?:what:

The way it was worded made me think it was the home right next to the Celis home to the south.

IMO

 

[Prof]

If they used the word uncle then it is very unlikely they are referring to JM and there is another character involved that nobody is aware of and who has not been in the news/media.

LE is not going to make the mistake of calling a cousin and uncle even if the family refers to him as her uncle.

Yes, and there has been a real uncle in the news, interviewed on NG at least.

 

[Prof]

I'll be back to this post as soon as I can see if I can put a mark on that photo.

I have no clue what meter I am looking at, but I recall someone posting a close-up of it.

ETA: OK, I put a line on the picture.

Okay thanks...did you see my ETA on my original post to you lol

 

[Patty G]

I assume you are referencing the gas meter? Do you know where it is on this pic? TIA


ETA
is this the gas meter?

That would be a gas meter, IMO. Nope, that is not the one that I am referencing. It's on Isa's side of the house to the right of her bedroom window. I think this would be the electrical meter and breaker box, but don't take my word for it. :biggrin:

 

[marazul]

Why would a reader meter be standing on a box anyway? If ours did that I would think he had lost his mind.

Ours come close to our meter and zaps it with his electronic device and then backs out of the yard and never gets out of his truck.

IMO

thanks for that imagery :floorlaugh:

 

[makayla]

And now I believe them from what has been revealed thus far.

It shows they are looking at anyone and everyone as they should.

IMO

I agree. It seems like they are looking at every possibility, and they absolutely should so when the time comes they have a close to airtight case against those responsible.

Reminds me of the expression, "leave no stone unturned".

 

[Prof]

I'll be back to this post as soon as I can see if I can put a mark on that photo.

I have no clue what meter I am looking at, but I recall someone posting a close-up of it.

ETA: OK, I put a line on the picture.

I know Anita posted a pic of the box in the alleway (south) behind the house...
And I just posted a pic of the gas meter on the street side (west) of the house...
the reports have matching footprints on these items...allegedly

Oh and the scent dog had one hit on the house to the south...allegedly

 

[Patty G]

Okay thanks...did you see my ETA on my original post to you lol

Yupper, and I responded!

 

[Isabelle]

Still no Isabel!

 

[mamamia54]

The officer wrote he also searched a nearby house and an underground bomb shelter in the back yard of the house.

I wonder if there's a chance that someone could be watching or taking care of one of those empty homes that LE hasn't been able to get in touch with owners. The care taker could have a key to one of those bomb shelters?

 

[Patty G]

I know Anita posted a pic of the box in the alleway (south) behind the house...
And I just posted a pic of the gas meter on the street side (west) of the house...
the reports have matching footprints on these items...allegedly

Oh and the scent dog had one hit on the house to the south...allegedly

I did see Anita's pic of the box in alleyway, and now we have your pic of the gas meter on the garage size of the house, and my pic of the meter on Isa's side of the house.

Phew ... lots of work!