It's not the lack of noise that I am concerned with. How on earth could he subdue 3 little girls at one time, or 2 others while he's molesting 1? At least one of them should have been able to run out the door and run to their mother or another adult, and that's what most scared kids would do, if they were not held or tied down. This has me puzzled.
Elizabeth Smart's sister just lay there, frozen in fear as he took Elizabeth. She then lay there for hours after he left with her sister, too scared to move.
Kids quite often freeze up when terrified.
Frayed Knot wrote, "...statistically speaking, an unknown intruder taking Isabel in the dead of night from her home is improbable...I have to stick with my gut on this and think that Isa was 'disappeared' by her parents or persons known to the family."
Praise God for some common sense! My posts keep getting removed, but I'll give it another try.
If Isabel's parents were at least showing up at the Search Command Center every day, I would suspend disbeleif (for now). However, their histrionic performance the ONE time they deigned to address the masses, coupled with their silence since, tell me the parents are not frantically looking for Isabel.
Who is the sex offender or kidnapper or bogeyman capable of abducting a six year old child out of her house without waking the parents, the brothers, or the dogs? And how did this magical person spirit her away without anyone seeing him do so?
In the court of law, one is assumed innocent until proven guilty. However, if your child disappears when he/she is under your care, you have some explaining to do!
<modsnip>. If my little boy were grabbed, my only concern would be getting him back, especially in the first weeks. My point is that innocent parents are not going to focus on their own reputations. Almost everybody was supicious of Ed Smart in the early days after Elizabeth was kidnapped, but he hung in there and cooperated with the cops and people stopped pointing fingers long before his daughter was even found.
I susect the Tuscon police have much more than they are telling the public. Watch for the Celises to get a hot shot defense attorney very soon.
You are very right, IMO, that statistically speaking, it's the parents. Stranger abductions are, in fact, exceedingly rare. So it makes a lot of sense to look at the parents. Less rare is an abduction by someone who knows the child, like another relative, friend or neighbor, which was my instinct. Now with this molester who came through a window and apparently raped at least one of three little girls, in Tuscon, I'm thinking there just might be a scary predator on the loose.
But boogey men do come in homes and take kids. It happened, as other have said, to Elizabeth Smart, Polly Klaas, the Groene kids and Jessica Lunsford.
I think there are solid reasons to wonder about the parents, about a boogey man or about someone known to that family. IMO, any one of those theories is a possibility with what we know now.
:seeya: I am not familiar with these cases, but could you tell me did the "perp" also kill the dogs ?
TIA !
No, he broke in and killed the Mom, her boyfriend and an older brother.
The dogs hid from him the whole time.
He abducted Dylan and Shasta. He ultimately killed Dylan but brought Shasta back alive.
Shasta was NOT killed, just to be clear. She was taken to a Denny's where she was recognized.
It was AWESOME. :woohoo:
Clarification, he did not bring Shasta back. An alert waitress recognized her and called police while slowly delaying their meal.
doggone, you should read up on that case if you have the stomach. It is most horrific. The monster was a pedophile who had been released after serving only five or six years for molesting small children. He then stalked the family, spying on them with night vision goggles and watching their home for days.
He came in at night and overpowered adults and the older kids, tying them all up. He then bludgeoned to death both adults and the older, teen boy, while the pit bulls hid. Right before he did that, though, he made the mom wake up and call Shasta and Dylan, IIRC and he took them and put them in his vehicle before coming back and killing the whole, remaining family.
He then took the kids to a remote campsite where he tortured Dylan for days on end and raped them both repeatedly. He took video of what he did. He also showed Shasta exactly how he stalked her family. He killed Dylan and made Shasta watch the video. he then went on the road with Shasta. You can see surveillance video of her walking in a gas station with him, shortly before she was rescued at the Dennys.
The monster is also responsible for the death of 10 year old Anthony Martinez who went missing in California and was found dead in the desert and he is suspected in many other missing kid cases.
Yes, it is rare but it is possible.
P.S., I didn't find the Celis parents to be "histrionic" in their presser at all.
I respect anyone that doesn't hold the same belief I do.
I do not fault these parents for what they decide to do. I am not........thank God ........sitting here knowing my precious child has being ripped away from me and having to think about I may never get to see her again alive.
What good did it do for them to speak out the first time they did? Did the kidnapper bring her home? No. Is he going to bring her back home alive? No, imo. Were they critisized when they did speak out? Yes. Maybe they saw the backlash on the evening talk shows? Maybe their freinds told them how the internet is buzzing against them even more since they spoke out. Who knows.
Imo
I would disagree a bit. People watching them will think about this case. The emotion of seeing the parents of a missing child may really resonate and could spark them to suddenly remember something or put a few things together, like suspicious behavior on the part of someone they know.
Then, there was the case of Brittany Mae Smith, the 12 year old taken on a cross-country trek by her adult abductor after her mother had been killed in their home in Virginia. Brittany was spotted in San Francisco by a woman who had seen her case on NG and recognized her.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/good-samar...e-smith-speaks/story?id=12390014#.T6BG3lJwhK0
I think it is a mistake not to be out there in front of the cameras. I'd be more desperate to do whatever it takes to find my baby than concerned about public perception or LE picking apart my every facial expression.
