AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 - # 9

[PolyGraph]

I'm not sure I buy that the story about the 3 little girls is true. Police use the word "may" to describe the possible incident. Were the girls hyped up about the story of Isabel? Could it be a hoax? Don't attack, I'm just sharing a thought that popped into my head and won't leave.

I completely agree with that one. I think they're 2 separate incidents.

 

[Prof]

I doubt very much that the three girls were a hoax.

[Neighbor] who has 4 kids, lives on the street where the sexual assault took place.

"It's shocking because they were only here for the first time last night."

http://www.kvoa.com/news/pima-count...t-still-searching-for-sexual-assault-suspect/

 

[Prof]

I was surprised they went home so soon.

Back to Hawaii? Do we have this from a reliable source?

 

[Shelby2]

I feel so badly for the parents in Tucson right now, and the children, they are all so scared. These kids will never forget this. How horrible and scary.

 

[Anita Richman]

Gitana1, thanks for your post. I have the same gut feeling as your Godmother, that Isa is alive and she is near. Wishful thinking? Perhaps. But I feel it, nonetheless!:moo:

 

[gitana1]

Gitana1, thanks for your post. I have the same gut feeling as your Godmother, that Isa is alive and she is near. Wishful thinking? Perhaps. But I feel it, nonetheless!:moo:

Oh, she didn't say her gut is that Isa is alive! I wish she had. She said her gut is that Isabel is very close, but she's hoping she is alive and not in a grave.

 

[Shelby2]

Back to Hawaii? Do we have this from a reliable source?

I am trying to find a link for you. I did read it in an article today...somewhere..

 

[FrayedKnot]

I'm not sure I buy that the story about the 3 little girls is true. Police use the word "may" to describe the possible incident. Were the girls hyped up about the story of Isabel? Could it be a hoax? Don't attack, I'm just sharing a thought that popped into my head and won't leave.

I'm right there with you. Milk ain't clean there, somehow. Possible that the reporting has made the incident sound hinky, but regardless, I'm hinked out.


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[mck16]

About the crying thing....

I have been known to cry with no tears. Don't know why, sometimes it just happens. Also, mild to severe dehydration will cause no tears as well. Just something to think about.

Maybe he was cried out and also he seemed very nervous. I think it was being in front of the cameras, etc. because as soon as he was through he was sobbing. jmo

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Look at this satellite image map of the neighborhood where the three little girls were attacked. There's maybe a dozen houses out in a rural area! How would the perp know these little girls were there unless he lives right there. No way he wandered in from the desert and happened upon them

11100 E Mountain Gate Pl Tucson, AZ 85749 - Google Maps

I wonder if there are any Tucson Academy students living there. Or ball players? Something that could connect Isa to the little girls.

I see, coincidentally or not, that the distance of the Celis' house to the school is roughly the distance of the house where the three girls were visiting to the school.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Hmmmmph!! About the 3 little girls and the sexual assault.. Now that I have a few moments to post could someone please tell me who/what entity it is that posts the criminal assaults that have occurred on the linked and posted map earlier today?? I stupidly called it a "charge" but obviously it's not technically a charge due to the fact the perp is still not been caught/arrested.. So, obviously not a charge but what is it called them a "complaint"?.. I mean how is it less than 24hours had passed and yet already entered on the address of the grandparents home it clearly stated "FORCIBLE RAPE-FEMALE APRIL 30th".. So can someone please let me know who it is that enters this information.. What would this "FORCIBLE RAPE-FEMALE" statement be called? A complaint??? And would they really list it as FORCIBLE RAPE-FEMALE when we are dealing with small children as I have always seen it listed as rape of a child, inappropriate acts with a child, lewd and lascivious acts in front of a child, etc, etc, etc.. ALWAYS CLARIFIED AS A CHILD..???

Could someone please clarify for me about the above details and from where they came(as in who is entering this into what database in less than 24 hours after LE was even notified)??????

TIA


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[Indigator]

Trying to stay on top of this case but I haven't heard much about neighbors. Anything unusual there?

 

[mck16]

Yes. Odd.



You are not the only one. If true, I think it is very significant. But something is off about the story for me at this point.




Yes, but the point is not that the father did or did not cry. The point is his voice sounded like he was crying and he had the facial expression of crying, but no tears. That makes people think he was acting. (And I still believe in these parents, but I did note that).

Okay, so I finally called my godparents in Tuscon to see what they think and the scoop, rumors, etc. They said you can't turn on the news or go in a business without seeing Isabel's face. They said they think about her all day long. They said she reminds them of their oldest granddaughter and they can't stop thinking about the case.

Their daughter is now sleeping with her kids at night out of fear (she has two adorable little girls).

They didn't really think the 3 girls ten miles away is connected.

One of them knows someone who knows Becky Celis very well and she speaks incredibly highly of her. She is well thought of. They don't think the family fits the profile of a family who would be involved. They found mom's emotions to seem more typical of a parent of a missing child when she gave her statement but Dad came across as somewhat disingenuous, too cool.

When I asked about rumors in town, they said there are tons of rumors floating around, about drug involvement and drug cartels, that the older son may be into drugs and someone took Isabel to teach them a lesson of some sort.

My godmother has a strong gut instinct that Isabel is close by. She prays she is not in a grave close by, however, but alive.

They both seemed very sad about what happened and it seems like it's really weighing on their minds.

I read all of Becky's facebook last night and I can tell you that 98% of her posts are about her children and family. The only other thing she does is wish people happy birthday or congratulations. I was amazed. I feel that she is a very soft spoken and loving wife and mother. jmo

 

[Anita Richman]

Oh, she didn't say her gut is that Isa is alive! I wish she had. She said her gut is that Isabel is very close, but she's hoping she is alive and not in a grave.

Ahhh...between the refresh taking forever and my mom-duties, I've been skimming posts, rather than reading them thoroughly. :doh:

Regarding the three girls, the sheriff's spokesperson said the stories were credible. I believe that police would have been able to "break them" if their story was a hoax. :moo:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I have had trouble on & off for 2 days with not being able to get on WS. Sometimes for a long period of time, like during yesterdays presser.

I am experiencing the same. I am wondering if it is due to the heavy activity on Isa's threads, in addition to the others, of course.

 

[Prof]

Hmmmmph!! About the 3 little girls and the sexual assault.. Now that I have a few moments to post could someone please tell me who/what entity it is that posts the criminal assaults that have occurred on the linked and posted map earlier today?? I stupidly called it a "charge" but obviously it's not technically a charge due to the fact the perp is still not been caught/arrested.. So, obviously not a charge but what is it called them a "complaint"?.. I mean how is it less than 24hours had passed and yet already entered on the address of the grandparents home it clearly stated "FORCIBLE RAPE-FEMALE APRIL 30th".. So can someone please let me know who it is that enters this information.. What would this "FORCIBLE RAPE-FEMALE" statement be called? A complaint??? And would they really list it as FORCIBLE RAPE-FEMALE when we are dealing with small children as I have always seen it listed as rape of a child, inappropriate acts with a child, lewd and lascivious acts in front of a child, etc, etc, etc.. ALWAYS CLARIFIED AS A CHILD..???




Could someone please clarify for me about the above details and from where they came(as in who is entering this into what database in less than 24 hours after LE was even notified)??????

TIA


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I provided a LINK in my post with the map for where that map came from.
It might help to quote the post, when one has a question about it. I did provide a link to the Pima County Sheriff -- the map belongs to them. They provide it for the community as a crime prevention tool. They provide a disclaimer stating exactly what it does and does not do. Someone at Pima County updated that information yesterday for a crime that happened yesterday, but who knows, maybe they pushed the wrong button, or maybe it is correct.

Every state has different names for different crimes.

 

[joedotnet]

I read all of Becky's facebook last night and I can tell you that 98% of her posts are about her children and family. The only other thing she does is wish people happy birthday or congratulations. I was amazed. I feel that she is a very soft spoken and loving wife and mother. jmo

If anyone ever read my Facebook...I'd definitely be convicted in the court of public opinion.



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[Anita Richman]

I provided a LINK in my post with the map for where that map came from.
It might help to quote the post, when one has a question about it. I did provide a link to the Pima County Sheriff -- the map belongs to them. They provide it for the community as a crime prevention tool. They provide a disclaimer stating exactly what it does and does not do. Someone at Pima County updated that information yesterday for a crime that happened yesterday, but who know, maybe they pushed the wrong button, or maybe it is correct.

Every state has different names for different crimes.

Recently on a "crime reporting" website, there appeared to be 5 homicides in a 4 week period in my neighborhood. Due to the relatively low amount of crime normally in my 'hood, myself and others questioned the site. It turns out that there are occasionally glitches and human error. That may be the case here, just as you said. I'm sure more details will come out about the crime, once the perp is caught.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

I was surprised they went home so soon.

Does that mean that all the forensic evidence came back from the lab?

that, too, seems quick, if so.

 

[Prof]

I have searched everywhere for news that states this family with 3 little girls went home to Hawaii, and have not found anything on that. I have seen local news showing the extensive LE power the PCSD is devoting to this crime. I see no evidence anywhere that this is being taken lightly.