Found Deceased AZ - Isabel Mercedes Celis, 6, Tucson, 20 April 2012 *Arrest* #26

[imstilla.grandma]

Valeria Calogne was recovering from an injury in the hospital when her daughter Maribel wrote the letter.

“I miss you so much. So, so much,” said Maribel Gonzales in the letter.

I’m so blessed and thankful to have you in my life. I hate to see you cry. I love to see you smile, it makes me happy,” continues Gonzales.
Murdered girl’s mom reads daughter’s last letter

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[imstilla.grandma]

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Both Isa and Maribel are minors so they would not be identified in any exploitation charges. Hope these charges not related to these girls anyway.

I hope you are right for the families sake because if they are they will become evidence in this trial.

However I not sure some of the photos aren't of his two victims before he murdered them.

A sex predator often takes photos of victims so they are able to relive the horrific things they have done to them. Some consider them trophy momentos that documents the sadistic abuse they have done to their frightened terrorized little victims.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I hope you are right for the families sake because if they are they will become evidence in this trial.

However I not sure some of the photos aren't of his two victims before he murdered them.

A sex predator often takes photos of victims so they are able to relive the horrific things they have done to them. Some consider them trophy momentos that documents the sadistic abuse they have done to their frightened terrorized little victims.

It’s hard to *like* that.
But every word you said is true, so I do.
What I really mean is *thanks*

 

[Seattle1]

I hope you are right for the families sake because if they are they will become evidence in this trial.

However I not sure some of the photos aren't of his two victims before he murdered them.

A sex predator often takes photos of victims so they are able to relive the horrific things they have done to them. Some consider them trophy momentos that documents the sadistic abuse they have done to their frightened terrorized little victims.

Eeek! I read things like this and can't believe he was still free to roam and prey on more victims. Thanks for update...

 

[oceanblueeyes]

As difficult as it is to even think of that possibility it may have happened. It seems if he was going to take child photos he would do so to the beautiful children he had kidnapped with the intent to sexually assault them. There would be nothing stopping this predatory monster from doing so.

We know Joe Duncan documented all of the tortures and repeated rapes of Shasta and Dylan by taping it all. That tape was so heinous the prosecutor said it would never be released to be seen by anyone. In fact after the trial they said they felt it should be destroyed to make sure no one would ever be able to view it.

As I have stated before I believe CC will turnout to be another Duncan type sexual predator.

Jmo

 

[agilbe]

As difficult as it is to even think of that possibility it may have happened. It seems if he was going to take child photos he would do so to the beautiful children he had kidnapped with the intent to sexually assault them. There would be nothing stopping this predatory monster from doing so.

We know Joe Duncan documented all of the tortures and repeated rapes of Shasta and Dylan by taping it all. That tape was so heinous the prosecutor said it would never be released to be seen by anyone. In fact after the trial they said they felt it should be destroyed to make sure no one would ever be able to view it.

As I have stated before I believe CC will turnout to be another Duncan type sexual predator.

Jmo

I agree completely.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

As difficult as it is to even think of that possibility it may have happened. It seems if he was going to take child photos he would do so to the beautiful children he had kidnapped with the intent to sexually assault them. There would be nothing stopping this predatory monster from doing so.

We know Joe Duncan documented all of the tortures and repeated rapes of Shasta and Dylan by taping it all. That tape was so heinous the prosecutor said it would never be released to be seen by anyone. In fact after the trial they said they felt it should be destroyed to make sure no one would ever be able to view it.

As I have stated before I believe CC will turnout to be another Duncan type sexual predator.

Jmo

I’ve been an advocate for survivors of CSA for years. I have no doubt this profoundly immoral, malevolent, demonic, treacherous monster will be exposed. is involved. I feel it in my bones.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

When the trial starts - maybe a Mod can combine the two threads? At least that's my suggestion.

Or start a new thread for Trial with both their names on it, and leave the discussion threads open?

And it’s a darn good one @Niner . It will be such a learning curve for me. The only trials I’ve ever watched are the OJ and the Casey Anthony. My solitary source to speak to about it was that tv screen. Mostly I was hollering at her. I’ll need some tips from you pros.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

As I wasn’t familiar with Maribel’s case (shame on me) I tried to find images and articles of her disappearance and death. I skimmed yesterday but only found a few photos.

I was surprised. There were so many of Isabel. I pondered.
It has to be the 911 call!
The devil in the details.
Suspicion.​

 

[agilbe]

SOUTH WEST MONSOON WEATHER CAN CHANGE DRY WASHES TO RUN WET AND WILD IN MINUTES
OT There was a discussion of running washes I believe yesterday. I happened to find this and thought some might find it interesting. It's from about 7 years ago, but will give you an idea of how dangerous they can be. I thought about it because I'm starting to see flash flood warnings. Rainy day here for us.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The fate of little Isabel Celis was unknown for 5 years after the 6-year-old disappeared from her bed in Tucson -- until her remains were found in a desert grave last year. With the arrest of a convicted sex offender, the family know has more answers. The family of another murdered Tuscon girl - Maribel Gonzales -- also knows what happened to the 13-year-old in 2014. Christopher Matthew Clements, 36, is charged with killing both. Nancy Grace looks at how the system may have failed as the suspect was allowed to walk free despite a long rap sheet of crimes. Her experts in this episode include Marc Klaas -- founder of Klass Kids Foundation, psychologist Caryn Stark, forensics expert Joseph Scott Morgan, juvenile judge & lawyer Ashley Willcott, and CrimeOnline.com reporter Jennifer Dzikowski.

Convicted Sex Offender Walks Free On Technicality, Kills Two Arizona Girls Crime Stories With Nancy Grace podcast
The 911 call with her mother reporting Maribel missing is so heartbreaking. Both calls are played as a comparison. Briefly after the commentary by Marc Klass, the entire Maribel call is played.

 

[strawberry]

WOW I heard a blurb about a guy being charged in two missing girls but I missed the whole story and couldn't find who it was about. Now I just saw the article that it was Isabel.

Oregon convicted sex offender charged with killing 2 Arizona girls who went missing

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I still can’t get over this one. Hurts me at my very core.

Turns out, while they were gone someone had kicked in their front door and stole hundreds of thousands of dollars of jewelry. She had been collecting the jewelry over the last 50 years that she planned to give to her grandkids.

Court documents reveal the man accused of breaking her home is Christopher Clements.

“I'm still amazed how he found me,” she said.

When detectives showed her his picture at the time, she said she didn’t recognize him.

Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office detectives were able to trace the suspicious incoming call on the woman’s phone to a phone number linked to Clement’s cell phone, which according to court documents, was found inside his car parked in front of his home.

Litchfield Park grandma 'horrified' to learn Tucson murder suspect accused of burglarizing her home

 

[Boodles]

Convicted Sex Offender Walks Free On Technicality, Kills Two Arizona Girls Crime Stories With Nancy Grace podcast
The 911 call with her mother reporting Maribel missing is so heartbreaking. Both calls are played as a comparison. Briefly after the commentary by Marc Klass, the entire Maribel call is played.

I hope the LEO who failed to properly Mirandize this cretin, resulting in his freedom, never has a good night’s sleep again. That’s LE 101. Epic fail and sooooo tragic. It’s sickening.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I hope the LEO who failed to properly Mirandize this cretin, resulting in his freedom, never has a good night’s sleep again. That’s LE 101. Epic fail and sooooo tragic. It’s sickening.

Comment of the day.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

SOUTH WEST MONSOON WEATHER CAN CHANGE DRY WASHES TO RUN WET AND WILD IN MINUTES
OT There was a discussion of running washes I believe yesterday. I happened to find this and thought some might find it interesting. It's from about 7 years ago, but will give you an idea of how dangerous they can be. I thought about it because I'm starting to see flash flood warnings. Rainy day here for us.

Thank you for explaining it so well.

Since I am from Georgia my Tucson friend had to explain to me what washes are. I had no clue what they were or that you have a monsoon season. Lol. She also had to explain what swamp coolers are too. I have learned a lot and I have so many breathtaking photos she has taken showing the beauty of Tucson in different areas. She is a fantastic photographer.

Desert life would never be for me though. I am use to tall green trees, beautiful flowers, and lush green grass year round. One of the things I love to do is work in our flowerbeds. My hubby says if we dont stop planting flowers people are going to think we have a plant nursery.

Thanks again for the information about your area. It's very helpful.

It breaks my heart though how long little Isa..was laying out there so long..alone with so many trying to find her.

I can't begin to imagine the pain it has caused Sergio and Becky when they found so little of her remains.

Jmo

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Man accused of killing Tucson girls was free on bail when teen victim went missing

It truly shows how bold this sexual predator was.

Another thing I noticed is how many times he refused to register as a sex offender. Even then he had to be up to no good for he wanted to live under the radar that he was a sex offender.

Duncan did the same and had absconded from another state when he came to Idaho reeking havoc on the Greone family.

So imo...CC didn't want to register because he also was planning on attacking innocent children and didnt want it known to the authorities he was a sex offender in their area.

Jmo

 

[Alethea]

Convicted Sex Offender Walks Free On Technicality, Kills Two Arizona Girls Crime Stories With Nancy Grace podcast
The 911 call with her mother reporting Maribel missing is so heartbreaking. Both calls are played as a comparison. Briefly after the commentary by Marc Klass, the entire Maribel call is played.

I have to listen to this. Nancy Grace was first in line to accuse Isabel's father. IMO it's one thing to discuss possibilities on a message board, it's another thing to repeatedly accuse someone on national TV.