Found Deceased AZ - Isabella Grogan-Cannella, 8, Bullhead City, 2 September 2014 - #4

[newone]

If social media is to be believed TG was never pregnant... It was a ploy to keep hold of RF. I mean who wouldn't want to keep hold of such a handsome hunk of loveliness!!!!!!!! yuuuk!

apparently she declared she was pregnant this a.m. during video court appearance when she requested medical attention
upthread post #609 this thread

 

[skibaboo]

TG's facebook is still up, but the pg test post is gone, or has been made private. I did see her sister (TG too) confirm it on fb posts, not sure if I believe it now though.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Police spokeswoman Emily Fromelt said Grogan supplied methamphetamine to both Nicholson and Rector the night Isabella went missing.

Took a break for a while and came back this joyful news & just now caught up. I don't even have words (but the "alternate" 911 call transcript was priceless). I think we all knew this was coming, but it kind of sickens me to have it confirmed TG was the one who supplied granny and JR with the garbage the very *night* Bella was taken away

If supplying your "babysitter" and house guest with meth while they're home alone with your children ISN'T considered child endangerment, I don't know what the heck is. Now I wonder what kinds of information is coming (or has come) from Bella's sister about the activity and living conditions in that house. Thank God at least one family member (the grandma now caring for the sister) is NORMAL and stable.

 

[Writerofwrongs]

When someone put the picture of Tania's preg test through the Tin Eye software....it came back that the picture had been used 166 times on other web pages. I don't know whether she is or isn't....I just hope immediate action is taken if/when she does have the baby.

 

[newone]

here's the information on services available for pregnant inmates in AZ

http://www.acluaz.org/sites/default/files/documents/KYR to pregnancy-related healthcare in jail.pdf

more info at link

''Prison officials MUST:
• Respond when you ask for medical care;
• Provide prenatal and obstetrical care during pregnancy;
• Provide medical care after your pregnancy (postpartum care);
• Allow you to receive timely, legal abortion services at an outside facility.''

 

[newone]

With all 3 of the F troop in jail (RF, his Mom & TG)......would LE have unfettered access to their house?

I realize they may need a s/w to do so but what a hey day that would be....

I am stymied by the logistics of emptying out their gear -- speculating of course they won't be bailed out. Someone will have to move their stuff.

allmoo

 

[CarolinaMoon]

Right! They won't be able to make any bail. They won't be able to pay their rent. Once well-searched, I would assume everything in the house will be removed by a haz-mat team with shovels.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Arpaio is way ahead of you Clue : )

http://www.mcso.org/About/FAQ/pdf/Chain_Gangs.pdf

Thanks, Knox! :seeya:

I can see this practice of having certain types of inmates clearing brush, cleaning up litter, burying indigents can be an effective way of using our prison "resources"...

:thumb:

 

[Magdalyn]

So I was thinking about the neighbor who got tangled up in this. Seeing as he was arrested, it seems he appeared to be willingly harboring RF. So it got me to thinking....is that where all the goods went between the Wal-Mart run and calling 911?

 

[Magdalyn]

here's the information on services available for pregnant inmates in AZ

http://www.acluaz.org/sites/default/files/documents/KYR to pregnancy-related healthcare in jail.pdf

more info at link

''Prison officials MUST:
• Respond when you ask for medical care;
• Provide prenatal and obstetrical care during pregnancy;
• Provide medical care after your pregnancy (postpartum care);
• Allow you to receive timely, legal abortion services at an outside facility.''

This all has me thinking of Tammy Caison Moorer (Heather Elvis) for some reason. Wonder how her maybe-gestation is coming along....

 

[Ontario Mom]

This all has me thinking of Tammy Caison Moorer (Heather Elvis) for some reason. Wonder how her maybe-gestation is coming along....

When I saw TG's newest mug shot I thought "oh look, it's Tammy". Just as creepy, just in different ways.

 

[Magdalyn]

With all 3 of the F troop in jail (RF, his Mom & TG)......would LE have unfettered access to their house?

I realize they may need a s/w to do so but what a hey day that would be....

I am stymied by the logistics of emptying out their gear -- speculating of course they won't be bailed out. Someone will have to move their stuff.

allmoo

Wondering if, after LE has determined they are finished packing up potential evidence, it's going to be the landlord....dumping their stuff on the front lawn. Maybe the other good friends who 'partied' with them the day Bella went missing will help relieve them of their worries over their earthly belongings.

Wonder if CPS is following up with all parents who had children in the Grogan/Folster household that day. I mean, all the adults were reportedly upstairs (except when JR was downstairs alone with the girls). Presumably, if Mom, Stepdad and G'Ma are all doing methy things upstairs, the remaining adults were as well....with kids in the house.

I mean, I guess they could just have been up there cleaning the bathroom. Or in the attic Shawshanking an escape route....

 

[SCHMAE]

What we see is a ' troop' who has a semi ( in their own minds ) sophisticated plan to avoid, cover, conceal and distract LE if one gets into trouble. They had to have a plan in place for if xyz happens then you do this call, that call, etc. So at this point, I would not be surprised at all if there were more to the story of the night little Bella was lost Smoke and mirrors.

 

[Tealgrove]

What we see is a ' troop' who has a semi ( in their own minds ) sophisticated plan to avoid, cover, conceal and distract LE if one gets into trouble. They had to have a plan in place for if xyz happens then you do this call, that call, etc. So at this point, I would not be surprised at all if there were more to the story of the night little Bella was lost Smoke and mirrors.

This was always my theory. There is just so much more to this story than what we know. I also think JRR's singing. There's more to come I'm sure.

I also assumed that LE was working the child endangerment angle and I also assumed that something would eventually come to fruition on the drug angle.

Patience is a virtue and sometimes I'm not very patient. I'm just glad that LE has the patience to put these cases together and get the bad guys. There's a LOT of bad guys in that house.

 

[skibaboo]

http://www.fox5vegas.com/video?clipId=10707261&autostart=true

 

[skibaboo]

[video=youtu;uhQ-tUlXbfU]http://youtu.be/uhQ-tUlXbfU[/video]

 

[Magdalyn]

I'm just glad that LE has the patience to put these cases together and get the bad guys. There's a LOT of bad guys in that house.

S&BBM

And only two victims--Bella and her sister--as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Teche]

If they decided to make a modern Laurel and Hardy film.. Ladies and Gentlemen, we have our cast.

Thanks button isn't enough!

 

[Krystine]

http://www.fox5vegas.com/video?clipI...autostart=true

Why did it take the disappearance and murder of an 8 year old girl to alert LE to the drug activities at that address? I find it kind of disgusting that the neighbour that got to know Bella didn't share her suspicions about Bella's "caregivers", or that someone in the neighbourhood didn't make a call to authorities about the suspicious activity. People were coming and going at all hours, and they were selling meth and heroin from that location? They obviously felt quite safe and protected in doing so too in what looks like a nice middle class area. Does nobody bother reporting anything any more because LE's hands are tied?
What is it like for an officer of the law in a place like Bullhead City, I wonder? I can't imagine doing that job, with all of the advantages and obligations we extend to criminals.

 

[MsMarple]

http://www.fox5vegas.com/video?clipId=10707261&autostart=true

So it's official, JR was sleeping in the same room as Bella and her sister. That makes me sick. And yet another neighbor verifies that Bella's home was a mess, she was out at all hours. Detective Grasse said the house was a flop house and had no electricity.

BTW, my understanding is that the house was rented by Freddie. Reports say the landlord served an eviction notice after Bella's death.