AZ - Lori Vallow Daybell charged w/ conspiring to kill ex-husband Charles Vallow and another relative, Brandon Boudreaux, Chandler, Maricopa County #2

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In her opening statement, the Prosecutor mentioned that they had cellphone location data.

Wouldn't it be something if CV's phone never left the rental car? The whole basis for the self-defense story - built upon LVD taking CV's phone off the counter (where he had allegedly placed it) and keeping it away from him, resulting in him screaming at her - would fall apart.

As her own attorney, would LVD be savvy enough to determine that cellphone data evidence provided in discovery might be showing that? And would she be savvy enough to have a counter for the meaning of that evidence?
 
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Don't forget Megan Conner, Lori Daybell's cousin, will be joining us tonight at 10:30 PM Eastern oN Websleuths YouTube Live.
 
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I was honestly going to try to watch this, but I am finding I cannot stomach her at all. AT all!
I keep thinking about JJ and Tylee, and the way she just so casually mentioned them in that Opening, like nothing ever happened to those kids at her own command. And then that superficial tear in her voice like she was oooh so concerned about Tylee being at risk of getting hurt by her evil stepfather Charles , like all she could think of was protecting her precious babies.

Yeah, no. 🤬 It'd not be not good for my enamel, all the teeth-grinding that would ensue.
I'll just follow it here via you guys' comments and trust the Jury'll see right through that deviant creature.

🤮

edit: typo
 
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I've been questioning where she gets the bleach in prison.
It's streaked a brassy blond and it's the video that has a green cast over everyone and everything.

Well, I guess that toilet cleaner dye job doesn't show well under fluorescent lighting. LVD is on stage! Live! Jodi Arias is probably gnashing her teeth, as she didn't take center stage for her entire trial.

This is such a farce. Weeks of trial, we already know the outcome.
 
  • #387
Nice story Lolo! Next time some violin music would be appreciated!

Perhaps Lolo should be spelled... LowLow. I can't stand her childish voice and looking at her makes me want to 🤮. She used Tylee in life, she used her in death, and the low down dirty 🤬 is still trying to use her... long after Tylee should be at rest, safe in heaven. I hope that evil nutcase never has an ounce of peace. Rant over.
 
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One point I wish had been left out - sunglasses on top of Alex's head. She notes that they were still on top of his head and the altercation did not move them.

Alex was in his bed prior to cv's arrival, I doubt he got up and put on sunglasses before confronting CV. More like he put them on before going outside to meet police.
I thought she brought up the sunglasses on his head to show his head must not have been hurting much if he was hit by a bat. I didn’t hear the part about the altercation not moving them. But I’d been without power for a couple of days and was trying to listen on my phone and missed a lot lol. (PS Power finally came n a few hours ago but i have to work tomorrow and still won’t be able to follow very closely lol)
 
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Am I the only one who thinks LVD took a page from Jose’ Bias’s book with all the tales she was spinning during her opening? I don’t believe she will present anything to support any of the things she said “the evidence will show”. I also think this was her way of getting her story in without testifying and without being subject to cross.

I’m curious to know what the jurors will think about the fact that Tylee isn’t here to testify about that morning. If I understand correctly, they will not be told that LVD murdered her and JJ but can they be told that she is deceased? Or that LVD is the only person alive who was there that day?
 
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When she is saying her opening that its not crime to collect on Insurance or SS. It is a crime to collect that SS money when the person who's supposed to be collecting those funds are dead. Fact, but also JMO.
 
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I’m curious to know what the jurors will think about the fact that Tylee isn’t here to testify about that morning. If I understand correctly, they will not be told that LVD murdered her and JJ but can they be told that she is deceased? Or that LVD is the only person alive who was there that day?
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Very important. Will be interesting how Court handles this. Juty is allowed to submit questionsb?
 
  • #394
Receiving Social Security benefits is not a 'crime'. But murdering Tylee and JJ and burying them in
her boyfriend's backyard [so people wouldn't know they were gone], so she could freely help herself to the kids' SS money for months after the kids died, actually is [a crime].

If I were Lori, I wouldn't use the words 'social security and crime' in the same sentence in front of a jury. Ahem...motive...
 
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Well, I guess that toilet cleaner dye job doesn't show well under fluorescent lighting. LVD is on stage! Live! Jodi Arias is probably gnashing her teeth, as she didn't take center stage for her entire trial.

This is such a farce. Weeks of trial, we already know the outcome.
I was thinking today with all the evidence the state has against her why in hell is she doing this trial, with legal counsel defending her or her defending herself.

I concluded what else does she have to do with her time?
How else can she get attention?
The justice system is able to feed her toxic narcissism.

imo
 
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Excellent point @aafromaa LVD is the ONLY person still alive from that day! She can spin whatever fantasy story she wants. Same as happened that day that Charles Vallow was set up, for a premeditated murder. LVD set the stage.

I really wonder, the kids went outside, Charles Vallow came in, and was shot dead the minute he entered the home. I am pretty sure that is what occurred.

All for money. And she didn't even get one cent of that insurance cash. Oh, to have had a video of that phone call to collect on the insurance. Is there a recording of that call?
 
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I was thinking today with all the evidence the state has against her why in hell is she doing this trial, with legal counsel defending her or her defending herself.

I concluded what else does she have to do with her time?
How else can she get attention?
The justice system is able to feed her toxic narcissism.

imo
She didn't have a choice of going to trial on the charges- although she could have just plead guilty- but she did have a choice to represent herself. It's her way of getting her point "charm" across without actually testifying and facing cross-examination. She does have counsel on stand-by there to advise her.
 
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Very important. Will be interesting how Court handles this. Juty is allowed to submit questionsb?
The jurors can submit written questions and ultimately the judge decides on the question, modifies it etc.
Both sides can object or seek clarification then the judge rules.
This is done outside the juries presence.

imo
 
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True to form, Lori Vallow Daybell scapegoated her daughter, making Tylee the reason Charles could not stay in her home. "When Tylee became a teenager, Tylee and Charles' relationship was so bad they had to go see a therapist," says Lori.

A lot has come out recently about the dynamics between Lori and Tylee. And, having seen Lori snapping at the judge over the last few days and listening to Lori's cousin's and Colby's podcasts, I don't see Lori as the sweet and motherly "people pleaser" she thinks she is/was.

"I advised Charles he could not stay with us because he could not get along with Tylee'" says Lori. Never mind that Lori Vallow Daybell had been having an affair with Chad for months and that Charles had found out about it a few weeks before he was murdered--Tylee is why Charles couldn't be in the house. Ugh...we recently heard Lori blame Tylee for JJ's and her own [Tylee's] deaths.

I'm shocked by how Lori has put so much blame on Tylee for situations that she, herself, caused.
Despicable that she is conveniently blaming anyone and everyone else, but more so to hear Tylee being targeted.
I Remember Summer saying Lori never raised her voice at the children and was an unselfish mother.. I have my doubts now. Cody would probably be one of the few who witnessed Charles's treatment of Tylee and would deny this.
 
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Receiving Social Security benefits is not a 'crime'. But murdering Tylee and JJ and burying them in
her boyfriend's backyard [so people wouldn't know they were gone], so she could freely help herself to the kids' SS money for months after the kids died, actually is [a crime].

If I were Lori, I wouldn't use the words 'social security and crime' in the same sentence in front of a jury. Ahem...motive...
While lamenting to Chad in a text that she wasn't receiving Charles' insurance money, LVD tells Chad in the very same text that she will receive $4,000 a month in Social Security benefits for JJ.
 
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