GUILTY AZ - Madeline 'Maddie' Jones, 19 & William Jones-Gouchenour, 9 mos, found safe, Mesa, 15 Jun 2017

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  • #661
Jethro4WS said:
Here is the criminal docket for Roland and Cassandra Jones. Note, that they were indicted and true bill/warrant issued as well as notice of indictment sent on 8/29/2017. I wonder why there was a one month delay in making an arrest.

http://superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/CriminalCourtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=CR2017-002869
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Thank you for those links! I can only guess it's because they wanted all their ducks in a row or because they didn't want the parents leaving the state?

Jethro4WS said:
And only two new items in the docket on the Family Court side of this. Noteworthy change is that Maddie no longer appears to have an attorney representing her.

http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.gov/docket/FamilyCourtCases/caseInfo.asp?caseNumber=FC2016-090994
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Probably because attorneys like to be paid? Just a guess. :)

mrsNKY said:
I am up reading to catch up at 3:30am and here is my latest thought. Is there a name for women who hate men and control them? Like an actual diagnosis? She sounds like one who maybe hates men in general.
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Misandry? Sociopathic? I think she just has a lot of behavior disorders but I wouldn't want to guess all of them ;)

If you go to the FB group for Maddie and William that was linked earlier in this thread, some friends of Cassie's are coming out and saying she deceived them.
 
  • #662
Ambitioned said:
Thank you for those links! I can only guess it's because they wanted all their ducks in a row or because they didn't want the parents leaving the state?



Probably because attorneys like to be paid? Just a guess. :)

Misandry? Sociopathic? I think she just has a lot of behavior disorders but I wouldn't want to guess all of them ;)

If you go to the FB group for Maddie and William that was linked earlier in this thread, some friends of Cassie's are coming out and saying she deceived them.
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BBM.

Yes it seems her conniving persona is not limited to her family.
 
  • #663
AnaPisces said:
BBM.

Yes it seems her conniving persona is not limited to her family.
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I've always been fascinated how people outside the family get sucked into it. But it's easy for me to sit here and say it. I grew up with a manipulative stepdad so I know the signs to avoid in other manipulative people. Manipulative people have mastered the art of deception plus they throw everyone under the bus but themselves. It's really a shame that some good people in the community were affected. I would think they would be really angry with her but they just want the baby home safe so I admire that.
 
  • #664
mrsNKY said:
I am up reading to catch up at 3:30am and here is my latest thought. Is there a name for women who hate men and control them? Like an actual diagnosis? She sounds like one who maybe hates men in general. (IF) she was capable of doing what her brother alleges (as written a few posts back) and Jacob, ot makes me wonder. I also wonder of she controls her husband too???

Also, as with previous posts, maybe he is in the hospital under a psych hold, because of his apparent loss of memory during the depositions?? Maybe he is starting to recaĺl things, now that he is behind bars. (Yes, snarky I know, couldn't resist.)

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Shes personality disordered it seems. But I don't think it's about hating men. She's probably do all that against a woman if it struck her fancy. And don't let the crazy husband off the hook.
 
  • #665
Ambitioned said:
Thank you for those links! I can only guess it's because they wanted all their ducks in a row or because they didn't want the parents leaving the state?



Probably because attorneys like to be paid? Just a guess. :)

Misandry? Sociopathic? I think she just has a lot of behavior disorders but I wouldn't want to guess all of them ;)

If you go to the FB group for Maddie and William that was linked earlier in this thread, some friends of Cassie's are coming out and saying she deceived them.
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Thanks! I haven't read there in a week or so, I better catch up again! [emoji4]

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  • #666
mrsNKY said:
I am up reading to catch up at 3:30am and here is my latest thought. Is there a name for women who hate men and control them? Like an actual diagnosis? She sounds like one who maybe hates men in general. (IF) she was capable of doing what her brother alleges (as written a few posts back) and Jacob, ot makes me wonder. I also wonder of she controls her husband too???

Also, as with previous posts, maybe he is in the hospital under a psych hold, because of his apparent loss of memory during the depositions?? Maybe he is starting to recaĺl things, now that he is behind bars. (Yes, snarky I know, couldn't resist.)

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In the police reports, friends describe the husband as "so in love w her" and "never saw a man love a woman more". I'm thinking she completely controls him.


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  • #667
gitana1 said:
Shes personality disordered it seems. But I don't think it's about hating men. She's probably do all that against a woman if it struck her fancy. And don't let the crazy husband off the hook.
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Def not but I think she drives it.


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  • #668
Sigh I was hoping she'd been found and arrested by now.


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  • #669
cvaldez1975 said:
Sigh I was hoping she'd been found and arrested by now.


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There are people that the Jones family has convinced that the police are working for the father's family. So Maddie and William are still being hidden. There is much work to be done to try to find them. There are still various actors that are running interference and being less than truthful - even the ones that per the documents have spoken to police and seemingly came around to cooperate. The big problem is that Casandra and Roland Jones were indicted by a Grand Jury on August 28th and a notice was given. By the time the arrests actually happened it was almost a month later. There has been plenty of time to change things, move Maddie and William, establish new ways to contact, etc.

At this point I think this case is not at the beginning of the end but merely at the end of the beginning.
 
  • #670
cvaldez1975 said:
In the police reports, friends describe the husband as "so in love w her" and "never saw a man love a woman more". I'm thinking she completely controls him.


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I do as well. I think a lot of what I see is a man who may be a little squirrelly. People often all about appearances too. They appear to be absolutely perfect while often, one of them have some control issues. It appears as though one of them conducts the train and the other cars ride the rails right behind. Sad, and I hope we are wrong, sadly I'm afraid we will not be.



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  • #671
Jethro4WS said:
There are people that the Jones family has convinced that the police are working for the father's family. So Maddie and William are still being hidden. There is much work to be done to try to find them. There are still various actors that are running interference and being less than truthful - even the ones that per the documents have spoken to police and seemingly came around to cooperate. The big problem is that Casandra and Roland Jones were indicted by a Grand Jury on August 28th and a notice was given. By the time the arrests actually happened it was almost a month later. There has been plenty of time to change things, move Maddie and William, establish new ways to contact, etc.

At this point I think this case is not at the beginning of the end but merely at the end of the beginning.
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Sad for the baby. Idk how ppl take these fools seriously.


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  • #672
The days are going by fast and William still isn't with his Daddy. I'm worried. Worried of things I won't even say.

These people would rather save themselves than let William Gouchenour have the life he deserves.
 
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Thank you! I'm hearing Mesa PD found her so kudos to them!!!!

Thank God the baby has been found!!
 
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Finally, it's over. I wonder how long this would of carried on if her parents weren't arrested.

Really sad situation for that poor kid. Ugh.

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  • #678
IM SO HAPPY! With everything that’s gone on in the last 24 hours, this made me so ecstatic! 💕💕💕
 
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