GUILTY AZ - Michael, 44, & Tina Careccia, 42, Maricopa, 22 June 2015 - #2 *Arrest*

[KateB]

MODS - Could we please get clarification on the use of the victims' names? MSM is using Mike and Tina, as well as the family using Mike and Tina in twitter and facebook.

Example: http://www.abc15.com/news/region-ce...s-foul-play-says-pinal-county-sheriffs-office

https://www.facebook.com/Maricopafindmikeandtina?fref=ts

Using Mike nickname is fine. Renaming them the infamous bank robbers is not.

 

[FruitTingles]

Using Mike nickname is fine. Renaming them the infamous bank robbers is not.

Thank you KateB. I had a little breakdown over that comment :/
It's been a long and sad day.

 

[KateB]

:grouphug:

I understand.

 

[FruitTingles]

Also, Thomas Keith Smith has been missing from Thunderbird Farms since July 31, 2013.
(Same neighborhood as Michael & Tina)

http://tinyurl.com/nla236w

The guy that walked outside one night without his glasses etc and never came back. His wife had him declared legally dead. I see a comment from his daughter on the PCSO's FB page, so sad
http://www.fox10phoenix.com/story/26511256/missing-maricopa-man-declared-legally-dead

 

[ohsocivilized]

The guy that walked outside one night without his glasses etc and never came back. His wife had him declared legally dead. I see a comment from his daughter on the PCSO's FB page, so sad

Very sad... They need closure so badly. I can't imagine how the wife must feel that the last words between were an argument, that makes it harder I think for her.

 

[FruitTingles]

The recovered bodies are believed to be the couple's, Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu said in a statement. Jose Valenzuela, 38, of Maricopa, was arrested and booked into jail on suspicion of first-degree murder. No information about a motive or details about the search of the property were immediately released.

http://www.fox10phoenix.com/story/29460029/bodies-found-believed-to-be-missing-phoenix-area-couple

 

[FruitTingles]

2:04am here, PC will be @ 5am my time. I should get some sleep til then.
See you all in a couple of hours.

 

[FruitTingles]

I believe this must be bad reporting (BBM):

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...-dead-maricopa-house-police-article-1.2279075

"An Arizona couple who went missing in late June was found dead inside a Maricopa house late Thursday........."

Surely they weren't found inside?

Bad reporting IMO, they were digging for a reason. Huge hole too.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Just saw this on the MSN Homepage:


Bodies of missing Phoenix-area couple are believed found

The bodies of a man and a woman believed to be a Phoenix-area couple missing for more than a week were recovered from a property near their home, and a man who lives there was arrested, authorities said Thursday.

Link: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...nix-area-couple-are-believed-found/ar-AAcrDyu

 

[steelman]

How did he manage to kill them and get them loaded in a car with no one at the compound aware of it ?
There's a dozen people there anytime of the day and night, and nobody sees or hears a single thing that night ?

Gunshots make noise, knife fights make noise, fist fights make noise, two people yelling and struggling with a third person makes noise. Unless he drugged these two people and carried them out unconscious, I don't see how this could have been done without waking up or disturbing at least one person in that compound.

Must be some damn heavy sleepers in that family if you ask me.

 

[arizona sunshine]

How did he manage to kill them and get them loaded in a car with no one at the compound aware of it ?
There's a dozen people there anytime of the day and night, and nobody sees or hears a single thing that night ?

Gunshots make noise, knife fights make noise, fist fights make noise, two people yelling and struggling with a third person makes noise. Unless he drugged these two people and carried them out unconscious, I don't see how this could have been done without waking up or disturbing at least one person in that compound.

Must be some damn heavy sleepers in that family if you ask me.

Unless the victims and JV went for a ride very late Sunday night after everyone else went to bed. ..... and never came home. *speculation

 

[LaborDayRN]

How did he manage to kill them and get them loaded in a car with no one at the compound aware of it ?
There's a dozen people there anytime of the day and night, and nobody sees or hears a single thing that night ?

Gunshots make noise, knife fights make noise, fist fights make noise, two people yelling and struggling with a third person makes noise. Unless he drugged these two people and carried them out unconscious, I don't see how this could have been done without waking up or disturbing at least one person in that compound.

Must be some damn heavy sleepers in that family if you ask me.

I wonder if Mike and Tina may have given him a ride home (as someone speculated up thread). Perhaps the crime happened at the perps home. A fight between the two men with Tina as a witness? Just thinking out loud.

 

[Nereid]

Wow, what a thing to wake up to.. I was thinking about this hole they dug all night long when I tried to sleep.

Currently waiting for more information on the motive. Killing one person is one thing, but killing two people at the same time.. that doesn't happen that often aside from very specific circumstances. As others have I wonder how he pulled it off. IMO he probably used a gun, easier to control two people that way.

How does the flying ability feature into this? Was he trying to force Mike to fly him somewhere, for a specific reason (illegal things like drugs) and it got out of control?

 

[steelman]

Just saw this on the MSN Homepage:


Bodies of missing Phoenix-area couple are believed found

The bodies of a man and a woman believed to be a Phoenix-area couple missing for more than a week were recovered from a property near their home, and a man who lives there was arrested, authorities said Thursday.

Link: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...nix-area-couple-are-believed-found/ar-AAcrDyu

Welcome to the party, you're about 12 hours behind..........lot's of reading for you to catch up on. Start about 4:00 p.m. yesterday and follow along...................

 

[IndianSummer]

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Jose Valenzuela

He can't even look straight into the camera
Hope justice is swift & soon

JMO

 

[WalterWhite]

How did he manage to kill them and get them loaded in a car with no one at the compound aware of it ?
There's a dozen people there anytime of the day and night, and nobody sees or hears a single thing that night ?

Gunshots make noise, knife fights make noise, fist fights make noise, two people yelling and struggling with a third person makes noise. Unless he drugged these two people and carried them out unconscious, I don't see how this could have been done without waking up or disturbing at least one person in that compound.

Must be some damn heavy sleepers in that family if you ask me.

I am hearing they drove over there on their own. TC and MC were shot in the head over some type of drug deal involving cocaine. JC has admitted to murdering the two. CBS 5 Phoenix reported this news and cited the source as Tina's brother i believe.

 

[ohsocivilized]

How did he manage to kill them and get them loaded in a car with no one at the compound aware of it ?
There's a dozen people there anytime of the day and night, and nobody sees or hears a single thing that night ?

Gunshots make noise, knife fights make noise, fist fights make noise, two people yelling and struggling with a third person makes noise. Unless he drugged these two people and carried them out unconscious, I don't see how this could have been done without waking up or disturbing at least one person in that compound.

Must be some damn heavy sleepers in that family if you ask me.

IMO I think they drove him home after party like someone else mentioned earlier.

 

[CatsInTheCradle]

How did he manage to kill them and get them loaded in a car with no one at the compound aware of it ?
There's a dozen people there anytime of the day and night, and nobody sees or hears a single thing that night ?

Gunshots make noise, knife fights make noise, fist fights make noise, two people yelling and struggling with a third person makes noise. Unless he drugged these two people and carried them out unconscious, I don't see how this could have been done without waking up or disturbing at least one person in that compound.

Must be some damn heavy sleepers in that family if you ask me.

Same thing I can't wrap my mind around. They had to leave there for some reason imo. Plus Mike looks like he could hold his own against anyone unless of course he was outnumbered.

 

[FruitTingles]

I am hearing they drove over there on their own. TC and MC were shot in the head over some type of drug deal involving cocaine. JC has admitted to murdering the two. CBS 5 Phoenix reported this news and cited the source as Tina's brother i believe.

JC?? Link

 

[ohsocivilized]

I am hearing they drove over there on their own. TC and MC were shot in the head over some type of drug deal involving cocaine. JC has admitted to murdering the two. CBS 5 Phoenix reported this news and cited the source as Tina's brother i believe.

Do you have a link?