AZ - Rebekah Baptiste, 10, killed by father and girlfriend - Holbrook, 27 July 2025

[agilbe]

I sound like a broken record but until we start charging people in the positions where they have failed these kids, this will just keep happening

Not a broken record you are trying to be a squeaky wheel. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[lonetraveler]

She tried so hard to escape. No one was helping her.

I'm struggling with following this case. It is very traumatic.

 

[mickey2942]

I sound like a broken record but until we start charging people in the positions where they have failed these kids, this will just keep happening

It is not an easy job. I have never wanted to do it. Unfortunately, I have not been overly impressed with the CPS workers I have met. Maybe the wrong people go into the position.

It has seemed to me, it wasn't people who wanted to do the job, but rather people who didn't find anything else, and ended up doing it. That may be the problem. Or teachers who hated teaching, and ended up there. Not because they wanted to help families. Or children. JMO.

 

[lonetraveler]

It is not an easy job. I have never wanted to do it. Unfortunately, I have not been overly impressed with the CPS workers I have met. Maybe the wrong people go into the position.

It has seemed to me, it wasn't people who wanted to do the job, but rather people who didn't find anything else, and ended up doing it. That may be the problem. Or teachers who hated teaching, and ended up there. Not because they wanted to help families. Or children. JMO.

Sometimes it seems like CPS just hires people off the street.

 

[mickey2942]

Sometimes it seems like CPS just hires people off the street.

Truth.

 

[lonetraveler]

Can someone explain to me HOW IN THE WORLD they system failed her with all the attempts the school did, her running away, etc. Seriously! She was afraid to go home! Why don't they pull a child like her out from the home? I guess parents (and the adults) have more rights than the victims??

IMO and I admit I'm really pissed right now, the people who failed her need to be prosecuted.

 

[TMich6811]

CPS is fixable but it has to be tore down and restarted.

 

[agilbe]

I’m interested in knowing if they went above cps

While unfortunately most states do mandate cps investigations and not legal for family abuse - after a couple of calls with obvious abuse you always go above cps. Every state has a call above them. Local representatives will get involved in cases like this too.

Just seeing this case and ugh

my number one question is why didn’t the neighbors call 911?!?

Having lived in a on the outskirts of a town, ie a wildcat neighborhood, most people stay to themselves. I met one person while living there. We were there for 4 years. We had our reasons for moving out there and knowing what I know now about that area their reasons were way different then ours.

 

[lonetraveler]

CPS is fixable but it has to be tore down and restarted.

Needs to be done away with and just start over IMO

 

[agilbe]

Task force launched to review child safety reporting laws after death of 10-year-old known to DCS - KTAR News Task force launched to review child safety reporting laws after death of 10-year-old known to DCS — KTAR News

I sure hope there can be some results from this.

 

[lonetraveler]

This poor child did everything she could do to find help and was ignored. I'm so angry right now that I have to back away for awhile.

 

[lonetraveler]

CPS is fixable but it has to be tore down and restarted.

After following child cases for twenty years, I'm saying this: CPS can't be fixed nor patched up. CPS needs to be dissolved and replaced with a competent organization.

 

[agilbe]

It is not an easy job. I have never wanted to do it. Unfortunately, I have not been overly impressed with the CPS workers I have met. Maybe the wrong people go into the position.

It has seemed to me, it wasn't people who wanted to do the job, but rather people who didn't find anything else, and ended up doing it. That may be the problem. Or teachers who hated teaching, and ended up there. Not because they wanted to help families. Or children. JMO.

I have often wondered if some of them start out gung ho and then just get worn down over time. Maybe trying to do the right thing only to have the courts send the kids back to the parents gets to them after awhile. JMO

Edited for clarification

 

[lonetraveler]

Pretty much had it with excuses for CPS. For twenty years, that is all I have heard regarding their incompetence with handling child abuse cases. It's time for them to be over.

 

[TMich6811]

After following child cases for twenty years, I'm saying this: CPS can't be fixed nor patched up. CPS needs to be dissolved and replaced with a competent organization.

I actively working with CPS. I agree like I said, needs to be tore down and rebuilt. There are some things that are good. I’d love to get my hands on it and start fresh though

 

[Synergizer Bunny]

Can someone explain to me HOW IN THE WORLD they system failed her with all the attempts the school did, her running away, etc. Seriously! She was afraid to go home! Why don't they pull a child like her out from the home? I guess parents (and the adults) have more rights than the victims??

The sad thing is that this child had no relative that was stable enough to stand up for her. Her father was able to get custody of her and her brothers because the Mom was using drugs. So, it seems that the father and his girlfriend were abusing the kids. It sounds like the girlfriend was even worse than the father. The mother and grandmother were not reliable and didn't see the kids. There was nobody in the family these kids could rely on.

The school wanted to help and tried. I believe the uncle called about his concerns for the kids. It's just so sad that there was not one person in the family that could help these kids. I feel so bad for this beautiful girl who had her whole life ahead of her. I just hope that her brothers will be adopted into loving homes. I did see where the bio mom had another baby with a new boyfriend. I assume that she no longer has that baby, either. Another baby (Rebekah's sibling) was given up for adoption. Hopefully, he is with a loving family, too. Five babies with Rebekah being the oldest child.

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JMO.

 

[AngTxGal]

Frustrating! If a stranger did the same thing to a child, there would be a police investigation and criminal charges. But because a family member commits the assault, CPS investigates. Maybe.

(No disrespect to CPS workers, btw. It's the system I'm frustrated with and realize the workers likely are too.)

jmopinion

So disgusted with the male half of our species… until we stop the madness there will always be victims.

Lorena Bobbit had a solution. That solution works!

So sick of hearing of the victims in the wake of a man’s sense of superiority and control.

IMO

 

[AngTxGal]

I actively working with CPS. I agree like I said, needs to be tore down and rebuilt. There are some things that are good. I’d love to get my hands on it and start fresh though

Yeah there would be no need for CPS to protect children from men if there were not men with twisted perverted or violent thoughts regarding children.

Just saying…
IMO

 

[TMich6811]

Yeah there would be no need for CPS to protect children from men if there were not men with twisted perverted or violent thoughts regarding children.

Just saying…
IMO

This is, in my opinion, inaccurate. There would be less sexual violence against children (presumably anyway, woman caused sexual violence is believed to be drastically under reported due to the nurturing approach).

Physical violence and neglect perpetrated by women would still be in existence though.

The children’s bureau child maltreatment of 2023 provides some good statistics collected from the us CPS reports . Unfortunately that report identifies that 51% of perpetrators are females. I reference this report because it’s pretty statistically sound than “reportedly” reports.

That means that, severity aside, we as women are actually harming children more frequently than men are.

https://acf.gov/sites/default/files/documents/cb/cm2023.pdf

 

[AngTxGal]

This is, in my opinion, inaccurate. There would be less sexual violence against children (presumably anyway, woman caused sexual violence is believed to be drastically under reported due to the nurturing approach).

Physical violence and neglect perpetrated by women would still be in existence though.

The children’s bureau child maltreatment of 2023 provides some good statistics collected from the us CPS reports . Unfortunately that report identifies that 51% of perpetrators are females. I reference this report because it’s pretty statistically sound than “reportedly” reports.

That means that, severity aside, we as women are actually harming children more frequently than men are.

https://acf.gov/sites/default/files/documents/cb/cm2023.pdf

I don’t doubt if that is the case…
Why on Earth are women having unprotected sex in 2025 if they do not want children?

Immaturity?
Control of some man?
Ignorance?
Trauma? DV?

If you look into the life of the woman… what will you find?

People are sick, selfish, unable to empathize with others… and then children do not get to choose their parents.

A small vulnerable baby simply doing what babies do, and for asking for its needs to be met it gets punished?

When will we get sick of it?

IMO