Baby Lisa's Mom Calls KMBC's Kris Ketz

[oh_gal]

If Deborah Bradley is innocent - and I don't know whether she's guilty or innocent - but if she is, what good would it to for her to keep submitting to LE interrogations? If she's already told them everything she knows, and they keep the investigation focussed on her, I could see how she would just give up with the police and pin her hopes on private investigators instead.

If she's guilty, she's clearly canny enough to hide it, so these constant demands for her to speak to the police are about as useful as throwing buns at the moon.

If it were me, and I were totally innocent, I'd be at the police station every day, begging them to hypnotize me, or do whatever they could, to uncover any recollections I might be suppressing. If nothing else, I"d feel like I was doing all I could, leaving no stone unturned.

 

[Cappuccino]

If it were me, and I were totally innocent, I'd be at the police station every day, begging them to hypnotize me, or do whatever they could, to uncover any recollections I might be suppressing. If nothing else, I"d feel like I was doing all I could, leaving no stone unturned.

Like Kevin Fox and Jerry Hobbs and Michael Crowe and....

You'd probably end up being a case for the Innocence Project.

 

[AnaTeresa]

Like Kevin Fox and Jerry Hobbs and Michael Crowe and....

You'd probably end up being a case for the Innocence Project.

Exactly. We can all say what we "would" do if we were in this sort of situation, but it's very easy to play armchair quarterback and assume things would go perfectly well.

What about Jaycee Dugard's stepfather? He was under a cloud for a long time. That man from the Elizabeth Smart case. Cooperating with LE is no guarantee of clearing your name, and can sometimes get you jailed. It's important to protect your rights, and I mean this without bashing LE in any way.

 

[Jacie Estes]

If Deborah Bradley is innocent - and I don't know whether she's guilty or innocent - but if she is, what good would it to for her to keep submitting to LE interrogations? If she's already told them everything she knows, and they keep the investigation focussed on her, I could see how she would just give up with the police and pin her hopes on private investigators instead.

If she's guilty, she's clearly canny enough to hide it, so these constant demands for her to speak to the police are about as useful as throwing buns at the moon.

LE has the option of a Grand Jury to find out any info they need; they aren't doing this and I wonder why. The parents should use private investigators, be they 'boots on the ground' in MO or advisors from out of state.

With as many people as, presumably, HATE DB/JI, according to public/social media, why are there no concrete leads against DB/JI? Maybe there is no info, no 'lead' that shows they are murderers. The 'my way or the highway' attitude in social media isn't working, there must be a reason why.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

If they have follow up questions relating to new information they can very easily relay those questions to DB through her attorney.

Incidentally, oh_gal, I've thought of another case of a parent of a child who is still missing that won't co-operate with LE. She even threw coffee cups at two FBI agents who went to her house to question her, and has consistently refused to give any DNA sample - Noreen Gosch.

Yeah, good idea, they can send the questions to the attorney first and not in person, so Deborah and the defense team have time to come up with a suitable answer.

 

[Cappuccino]

Yeah, good idea, they can send the questions to the attorney first and not in person, so Deborah and the defense team have time to come up with a suitable answer.

If Deborah is guilty she's already had plenty of time to cook up suitable answers. If she's innocent, her answers will be honest regardless of whether she's asked through her attorney or not. Its sad that the only way people seem to be able to try and help this child is by hounding her (possibly innocent) mother.

 

[menmo]

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If they have follow up questions relating to new information they can very easily relay those questions to DB through her attorney.

The fact of the matter is, LE could relay any questions they have for these parents through their attorneys.

I guess they could do it this way, but what I think Deborah Bradley and her attorneys are afraid of is the words that might spill out of her mouth, her actions and then some. Seriously, LE is wanting Deborah and Jeremy to answer the questions. If you send them to her through her attorney, then her attorney answers them for her what good does that do Lisa? None, in my opinion, it would be just like it is now. Debbie Bradley is going to protect Deborah Bradley at all costs. Even at the price of her daughter. Just crazy to me!

MOO

 

[menmo]

If Deborah is guilty she's already had plenty of time to cook up suitable answers. If she's innocent, her answers will be honest regardless of whether she's asked through her attorney or not. Its sad that the only way people seem to be able to try and help this child is by hounding her (possibly innocent) mother.

I don't think Deborah could pull off suitable answers, keep her composure and help this case without implicating herself. That is why I think she doesn't talk to LE.
I disagree about it being sad that the only way people seem to be able to try and help Lisa is by hounding her mother. What is sad is the fact that Lisa's own mother and father won't help their child in the way needed to bring closure. Guilty or Innocent they are not doing all they can to bring their child home. Period.

MOO

 

[Cappuccino]

If you send questions to her through her attorney, he asks her the questions and relays the answers back to the police. Or they could go the Grand Jury route. What they don't need to do is pretend that their only options are 1) Hound the mother to waive her Fifth Amendment rights, or 2) give up.

 

[4Jacy]

If Deborah Bradley is innocent - and I don't know whether she's guilty or innocent - but if she is, what good would it to for her to keep submitting to LE interrogations? If she's already told them everything she knows, and they keep the investigation focussed on her, I could see how she would just give up with the police and pin her hopes on private investigators instead.

If she's guilty, she's clearly canny enough to hide it, so these constant demands for her to speak to the police are about as useful as throwing buns at the moon.

BBM

I cannot see how she could possibly give up on the police. This is her baby we're talking about. LE is trained so thoroughly for these type of cases, why would she, DB, even think she knows more than the police.

Jeremy went to the balloon release as a PR stunt, showing that they are actively searching for BL, while DB was sobbing on the phone to a reporter, another PR move. In actuality, both of these parents want this case to disappear.

 

[menmo]

If you send questions to her through her attorney, he asks her the questions and relays the answers back to the police. Or they could go the Grand Jury route. What they don't need to do is pretend that their only options are 1) Hound the mother to waive her Fifth Amendment rights, or 2) give up.

I disagree. We should trust that this is the way her attorneys would handle the questions for her, because they're such fine, upstanding people that would always do the right thing for Lisa and to help LE. Ha! I'm not buying that one with these two no matter how it's presented. I'm also not buying that poor Debbie Bradley and Jeremy Irwin are innocent. With their actions, lack of words to help keep Lisa's name out there, with the attorneys that are representing them, with the "private investigator" that doesn't have a license to follow up on all these leads they have, everything they are doing to me screams It's all about protecting us! I say stop it already and get to doing what they should have been doing from the beginning. If LE wanted me to turn cartwheels through the lobby of the station, I'd do it. If they wanted to try and frame me I'd know that my attorney was there to protect my rights and I'd go for it. IF I wanted my baby back and IF I didn't know where she was. As for LE hounding the mother to waive her rights. GMAB! I don't believe that for a nano second. More like they want to ask her some more questions, apart from Jeremy and likewise with him. IF she truly is innocent then shame on her for not helping any way she can to bring Lisa home.
God knows the truth, Deborah. He sees all, knows all. I don't pretend to but I do know that I believe what you and Jeremy are putting out there sure makes me think you are guilty of Lisa's disappearance. More you than Jeremy, though.

ETA: I'd take a bullet for my children or grandchildren, lay down in the middle of the road and be ran over a gazillion times....if it would help get answers for them. Lisa's own mother won't even talk to LE!

MOO

 

[Cappuccino]

We can all have our own opinions about what happened and who is responsible. But what we don't have is evidence. There clearly isn't enough to arrest DB, despite that the police have taken a good look at her. Time to stop flogging a dead horse, IMO.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

It's pretty much to the point that no matter what Deb and Jeremy do they are wrong either way. I don't profess to know their innocence or guilt. I just threw out the hypothetical that if they were innocent and were accused from day one how I could see they would not want to talk anymore. I have a 4 yr old son and yes I would be doing everything in my power to get him back if he were missing, but I am not anyone else so I can't pretend to know what goes through their minds or know what they do behind the scenes that no one else sees.

BBM: JMO and MOO ...

But Deb and Jeremy started off "on the wrong foot" ... ALL of Deb and Jeremy's "troubles" were brought on by themselves -- and by themselves only ...

JMO ... but this is WHy IMO -- I believe it was a "total waste of time" for Deb to call into KMBC yesterday :

- It was Deb and Jeremy who stopped talking to LE within a few days after Lisa was reported "missing" ...

- It was Deb and Jeremy who "lawyered up" with not just 1 defense attorney but 2 defense attorneyS ...

- It was Deb and Jeremy who have changed their "stories" and changed their "timeline" of the events -- too numerous to even count ...

- It was Deb who went on national tv and stated that she was "drunk" the night Lisa went "missing" from her home ...

And the list goes on and on ... and on and on ...

:moo::moo::moo:

 

[menmo]

I don't think of it as flogging a dead horse. I think more of it in terms for what it is. Parents of a child unable to care for herself, walking out on her when she needed them most. That is sad.


I can't help but wonder if this is all show for the custody of Jeremy's and his ex's son. Since there was a gag order we will probably never know but I do hope that whatever Judge is hearing the custody case, if it's not already been decided, has enough common sense to see through the games.

MOO

 

[4Jacy]

Yeah, good idea, they can send the questions to the attorney first and not in person, so Deborah and the defense team have time to come up with a suitable answer.

:floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

Thanks for the laugh eileenhawkeye!

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I don't think Deborah could pull off suitable answers, keep her composure and help this case without implicating herself. That is why I think she doesn't talk to LE.

MOO

Respectfully Snipped and RBBM:

B I N G O ! I totally agree !

IMO, both Deb and Jeremy will totally implicate themselves if they talk to LE, and that is WHY they REFUSE to be interviewed SEPARATELY ...

JMO and MOO ... :moo:

 

[4Jacy]

I disagree. We should trust that this is the way her attorneys would handle the questions for her, because they're such fine, upstanding people that would always do the right thing for Lisa and to help LE. Ha! I'm not buying that one with these two no matter how it's presented. I'm also not buying that poor Debbie Bradley and Jeremy Irwin are innocent. With their actions, lack of words to help keep Lisa's name out there, with the attorneys that are representing them, with the "private investigator" that doesn't have a license to follow up on all these leads they have, everything they are doing to me screams It's all about protecting us! I say stop it already and get to doing what they should have been doing from the beginning. If LE wanted me to turn cartwheels through the lobby of the station, I'd do it. If they wanted to try and frame me I'd know that my attorney was there to protect my rights and I'd go for it. IF I wanted my baby back and IF I didn't know where she was. As for LE hounding the mother to waive her rights. GMAB! I don't believe that for a nano second. More like they want to ask her some more questions, apart from Jeremy and likewise with him. IF she truly is innocent then shame on her for not helping any way she can to bring Lisa home.
God knows the truth, Deborah. He sees all, knows all. I don't pretend to but I do know that I believe what you and Jeremy are putting out there sure makes me think you are guilty of Lisa's disappearance. More you than Jeremy, though.

ETA: I'd take a bullet for my children or grandchildren, lay down in the middle of the road and be ran over a gazillion times....if it would help get answers for them. Lisa's own mother won't even talk to LE! MOO

:goodpost:

BBM

Your entire post deserves more thank a button thank you. Very well said, and yet there are still peeps out there defending DB!

As for the bolded part, my thoughts exactly!!

 

[norest4thewicked]

No two stories are identical. Oh_gal asked for examples of where innocent people came under suspicion after being fully co-operative with LE, and I gave her two. I could give more than two if you like - try googling Jerry Hobbs, for example. The fact of the matter is, LE could relay any questions they have for these parents through their attorneys. Its not like they have no lines of communication open to them.

What they want is Deborah Bradley alone in an interview room with no attorney present. If she's guilty, she's not going to give it to them, and if she's innocent she shouldn't give it to them.

Ok...so three people who came under suspicion after being fully cooperative with LE. Okay...I can buy that. But, how does that relate to DB and I still don't get why she would be paranoid about LE if she is innocent. Does she want to find her baby or not? If she is guilty, of course she wants to remain silent, and that is her constitutional right. But, if she is innocent, how in the world is she ever going to get her baby back if she doesn't do everything in her power to do so? Is Lisa just going to walk back into her life? Why does DB's fear of what LE is going to do to her surpass her fear of finding her child? Why does she put her own well-being before Lisa? This is the question I'd like answered.

 

[norest4thewicked]

Exactly. We can all say what we "would" do if we were in this sort of situation, but it's very easy to play armchair quarterback and assume things would go perfectly well.

What about Jaycee Dugard's stepfather? He was under a cloud for a long time. That man from the Elizabeth Smart case. Cooperating with LE is no guarantee of clearing your name, and can sometimes get you jailed. It's important to protect your rights, and I mean this without bashing LE in any way.

BBM above...

Again, it's NOT about DB...it's about Lisa....

 

[norest4thewicked]

Exactly. We can all say what we "would" do if we were in this sort of situation, but it's very easy to play armchair quarterback and assume things would go perfectly well.

What about Jaycee Dugard's stepfather? He was under a cloud for a long time. That man from the Elizabeth Smart case. Cooperating with LE is no guarantee of clearing your name, and can sometimes get you jailed. It's important to protect your rights, and I mean this without bashing LE in any way.

In addition, I CAN say what I would do because I know myself. And, I know what I would do if my child were to go missing. I might not know every detail of what were to happen or what the result would be, but I have no ax to grind with LE, am not afraid of them and don't feel that they are all out to get me. I would be communicating with them every day of my life as long as I had another breath to take.