Baby Lisa's Mom Calls KMBC's Kris Ketz

  • #81
Ok...so three people who came under suspicion after being fully cooperative with LE. Okay...I can buy that. But, how does that relate to DB and I still don't get why she would be paranoid about LE if she is innocent. Does she want to find her baby or not? If she is guilty, of course she wants to remain silent, and that is her constitutional right. But, if she is innocent, how in the world is she ever going to get her baby back if she doesn't do everything in her power to do so? Is Lisa just going to walk back into her life? Why does DB's fear of what LE is going to do to her surpass her fear of finding her child? Why does she put her own well-being before Lisa? This is the question I'd like answered.

If DB is innocent - and I don't know whether she is or not - but if she is, it will do nothing to help her daughter for her to talk to the police again. If she's told them everything she knows, then that's that. There's clearly not enough evidence to arrest her, and if there are follow up questions to be asked they can be asked and answered through her attorney.

Again, it's NOT about DB...it's about Lisa....

Deborah Bradley did not cease to be a person with rights of her own the day her daughter disappeared, and nor did her husband or her other two children. Time to stop hounding this family, IMO, unless someone finds evidence that they are responsible for harming their daughter.
 
  • #82
LE has the option of a Grand Jury to find out any info they need; they aren't doing this and I wonder why. The parents should use private investigators, be they 'boots on the ground' in MO or advisors from out of state.

With as many people as, presumably, HATE DB/JI, according to public/social media, why are there no concrete leads against DB/JI? Maybe there is no info, no 'lead' that shows they are murderers. The 'my way or the highway' attitude in social media isn't working, there must be a reason why.

The reason is that Lisa died within the N. Lister house and only one or two people know about it. She was disposed of under the cover of night. And, my personal opinion is that Lisa died from an accident of some kind, not murder. Sometimes cases like this take years to develop to bring about a GJ or an arrest.
 
  • #83
In addition, I CAN say what I would do because I know myself. And, I know what I would do if my child were to go missing. I might not know every detail of what were to happen or what the result would be, but I have no ax to grind with LE, am not afraid of them and don't feel that they are all out to get me. I would be communicating with them every day of my life as long as I had another breath to take.

And if you were unlucky enough to be dealing with police officers who had developed tunnel vision about you, that would land you in a prison cell like it has with many innocent people before you.
 
  • #84
If Deborah is guilty she's already had plenty of time to cook up suitable answers. If she's innocent, her answers will be honest regardless of whether she's asked through her attorney or not. Its sad that the only way people seem to be able to try and help this child is by hounding her (possibly innocent) mother.

Well, we already have heard and know for ourselves that DB has lied, so she's far from honest. What now?

And, how is expecting and requesting her to talk to LE "hounding?" Wow...:what:
 
  • #85
Correct me if I am wrong-but didn't SY say after they stop talking with LE-that they wanted to know more about WHO was there that night-Why is that a question DB/JI don't want to answer-that maybe be a clue to help them find Lisa-but they don't even want to answer a simple question like that-WHY???
 
  • #86
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  • #87
Well, we already have heard and know for ourselves that DB has lied, so she's far from honest. What now?

And, how is expecting and requesting her to talk to LE "hounding?" Wow...:what:

Its hounding her because she has refused, she is well within her legal rights to refuse and there are times when you have to take no for an answer. This is one of them, unless and until evidence is found linking her to a crime.
 
  • #88
Respectfully Snipped and RBBM:

B I N G O ! I totally agree !

IMO, both Deb and Jeremy will totally implicate themselves if they talk to LE, and that is WHY they REFUSE to be interviewed SEPARATELY ...

JMO and MOO ... :moo:

Of course, what reason would an innocent parent have for refusing, & also refusing to let the children be interviewed? What horrible,terrible things would the KCPD DO to these people, that could possibly be worse than missing an opportunity to generate leads to FIND Lisa?? :baby:

Jeremy stated yesterday there are reasons for the things they are doing; what on earth could they be?
 
  • #89
We can all have our own opinions about what happened and who is responsible. But what we don't have is evidence. There clearly isn't enough to arrest DB, despite that the police have taken a good look at her. Time to stop flogging a dead horse, IMO.

Respectfully...can I ask how you know what LE has in this case?
 
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  • #91
If DB is innocent - and I don't know whether she is or not - but if she is, it will do nothing to help her daughter for her to talk to the police again. If she's told them everything she knows, then that's that. There's clearly not enough evidence to arrest her, and if there are follow up questions to be asked they can be asked and answered through her attorney.



Deborah Bradley did not cease to be a person with rights of her own the day her daughter disappeared, and nor did her husband or her other two children. Time to stop hounding this family, IMO, unless someone finds evidence that they are responsible for harming their daughter.

BBM 1 Again, I have to ask you...do you think that every single question that could possibly ever come up in an investigation was answered by DB in those first 2 days? She was stressed, recovering from heavy alcohol intake, frightened, in shock that first week. How in the world can anyone think that she was even able to remember everything, let alone tell someone who can help?

BBM2 DB's attorneys have already proven that they are liars...how would anyone know if the questions weren't changed to what they wanted to say? How is this not obvious?
 
  • #92
And if you were unlucky enough to be dealing with police officers who had developed tunnel vision about you, that would land you in a prison cell like it has with many innocent people before you.

Well, that would never happen to me. And, as you suggested, they have to have enough to arrest, and then it is to a jury of her peers. So, please don't lump me in with the handful of innocent people that you spoke of earlier. It just wouldn't happen.
 
  • #93
If Deborah Bradley is innocent, her attorneys would have no reason to change her answers regardless of their personal level of honesty or lack of it. There is also the Grand Jury option, but the police apparently don't have enough to go that route either. With the complete absence of evidence that seems to exist here, its jumping the gun big time to accuse anybody.
 
  • #94
Well, that would never happen to me. And, as you suggested, they have to have enough to arrest, and then it is to a jury of her peers. So, please don't lump me in with the handful of innocent people that you spoke of earlier. It just wouldn't happen.

That's what Kevin Fox thought. And Jerry Hobbs, Michael Crowe, Martin Tanklieff, Peter O'Reilly, Earl Washington Jr., Stefan Sisko, Judith Ward, Christopher Ochoa, and I can keep making this list longer anytime you pretend that innocent people have no need of the Fifth Amendment.
 
  • #95
Its hounding her because she has refused, she is well within her legal rights to refuse and there are times when you have to take no for an answer. This is one of them, unless and until evidence is found linking her to a crime.

Sorry...I don't agree. I can't speak for people who protest outside her home or say things about her on Facebook. But, I can speak for those of us here who believe that DB or both DB and JI have something to do with Lisa being missing and this is a forum for expressing our opinions. You call it hounding...I call it Justice for Lisa!
 
  • #96
I know they don't have enough for an arrest warrant.

That wasn't the question, but I didn't figure I'd get an answer. And, respectfully, you don't know that they don't have enough for an arrest warrant. They well may have enough for an arrest warrant but want MORE, so that they can be darned sure that they have their ducks in a row. That happens a lot more than you might think.
 
  • #97
Sorry...I don't agree. I can't speak for people who protest outside her home or say things about her on Facebook. But, I can speak for those of us here who believe that DB or both DB and JI have something to do with Lisa being missing and this is a forum for expressing our opinions. You call it hounding...I call it Justice for Lisa!

You're entitled to your opinion, obviously. However, accusing someone with no evidence is not justice for anybody, IMO. If she's guilty then the police need to find evidence to prove it, not pin all their hopes on getting her to incriminate herself. As for the people outside her house demanding she waive her rights, if they were outside my house they'd get more than a finger. I'd fill up a big bucket of freezing cold water and ice cubes and dump it on their heads.
 
  • #98
If Deborah Bradley is innocent, her attorneys would have no reason to change her answers regardless of their personal level of honesty or lack of it. There is also the Grand Jury option, but the police apparently don't have enough to go that route either. With the complete absence of evidence that seems to exist here, its jumping the gun big time to accuse anybody.

:what: Of course DB's attorneys know that she is not innocent. Why else would they be spinning lies?

Do you have some sort of link or inside information that there is "complete absence of evidence" in this case? I guess that we won't consider the inconsistencies, changing timelines, HRD hit? Yeah, better not count those.
 
  • #99
That wasn't the question, but I didn't figure I'd get an answer. And, respectfully, you don't know that they don't have enough for an arrest warrant. They well may have enough for an arrest warrant but want MORE, so that they can be darned sure that they have their ducks in a row. That happens a lot more than you might think.

I can take an educated guess that its not happening here, for the simple reason that the police seem very keen to talk to her and yet she is not under arrest. If they had enough to get her in an interview room, I'd say she'd be there by now.
 
  • #100
That's what Kevin Fox thought. And Jerry Hobbs, Michael Crowe, Martin Tanklieff, Peter O'Reilly, Earl Washington Jr., Stefan Sisko, Judith Ward, Christopher Ochoa, and I can keep making this list longer anytime you pretend that innocent people have no need of the Fifth Amendment.

So, you know the inside thoughts of Kevin Fox? And, I never said that innocent people have no need of the Fifth Amendment. Where did that come from? If you are going to quote me, please do so factually.

And, lastly, and respectfully, I KNOW that I would never wrongfully be arrested.
 

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