Bahamas - Fariba Amani, 47, missing from cruise ship, 29 Feb 2012

[Dushi]

Cabins. As the ship is a converted cruise ferry, cabins are generally quite small, and about 50 feature upper and lower berths (i.e. bunk beds). Just over half of the staterooms feature some sort of window; there are no true balconies. There are, however, four suites with enclosed balcony configurations.

http://www.cruisecritic.com/reviews/review.cfm?ShipID=553

 

[~n/t~]

Apparently, Fariba thought he was cheating on her
And he was very controlling

http://gma.yahoo.com/missing-cruise...lationship-boyfriend-030709052--abc-news.html

Too bad she didn't just dump him. :sigh:


I never heard of someone hiring a PI to investigate a boyfriend for cheating. It's not like they were engaged or married.

Strange

 

[Dushi]

Too bad she didn't just dump him. :sigh:


I never heard of someone hiring a PI to investigate a boyfriend for cheating. It's not like they were engaged or married.

Strange

It does seem extreme, doesn't it
I think they were dating for eight months

 

[luckyducky]

Too bad she didn't just dump him. :sigh:


I never heard of someone hiring a PI to investigate a boyfriend for cheating. It's not like they were engaged or married.

Strange

I would say yes for sure someone would hire a PI if they felt that their b/f or g/f was cheating - especially if they wanted the relaionshop to continue and maybe even were considering marriage. Usually there is a reason one gets suspcious. I find it odd that her family never met this guy if they were dating for a while.

 

[lonetraveler]

Megyn Kelly on Fox is about to cover the missing cruise passenger.

 

[Saracen]

I would say yes for sure someone would hire a PI if they felt that their b/f or g/f was cheating - especially if they wanted the relaionshop to continue and maybe even were considering marriage. Usually there is a reason one gets suspcious. I find it odd that her family never met this guy if they were dating for a while.

Does anyone know how far apart they lived?, i mean you could be dating for many months but only meet a couple of times a month..

Maybe that is a reason that her parents had never met this guy.JMO..

 

[Saracen]

VANCOUVER — The sister of a B.C. woman who vanished a week ago while on a cruise from the Bahamas to Palm Beach, Fla. says her family feels left in the dark about important details of the investigation being led by the FBI.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/0...ruise-ship-off-florida-desperate-for-details/

 

[Saracen]

Apparently, Fariba thought he was cheating on her
And he was very controlling

http://gma.yahoo.com/missing-cruise...lationship-boyfriend-030709052--abc-news.html

Listen to this video, in the first few seconds the presenter says 'her NEW boyfriend', which leads me to believe that if they had been dating for 8 months maybe they did not see each other too often?..jmo..

 

[~n/t~]

Listen to this video, in the first few seconds the presenter says 'her NEW boyfriend', which leads me to believe that if they had been dating for 8 months maybe they did not see each other too often?..jmo..

They all lived in Port Moody. I find it strange that her family never met this guy. I wonder who has custody of her children?

 

[~n/t~]

I would say yes for sure someone would hire a PI if they felt that their b/f or g/f was cheating - especially if they wanted the relaionshop to continue and maybe even were considering marriage. Usually there is a reason one gets suspcious. I find it odd that her family never met this guy if they were dating for a while.

Yes I find it odd that her family never met him and I respectfully disagree, I find it odd that she would hire a PI to spy on her boyfriend. Sorry but if someone can't trust their bf/gf when they're not married or engaged, how in the world will they when they commit to a long term relationship? Makes no sense to me. Will they continue to hire PI's every time they suspect cheating?

I'm wondering if it was more than just cheating ? She didn't end up hiring the PI because she was afraid he was going to get angry. :what:

 

[Saracen]

I'm wondering if it was more than just cheating ? She didn't end up hiring the PI because she was afraid he was going to get angry. :what:

Maybe she was getting serious, but had some sort of doubts, who he hung out with ect, friends aquaintances, WIFE???.

 

[OneLove]

Yes I find it odd that her family never met him and I respectfully disagree, I find it odd that she would hire a PI to spy on her boyfriend. Sorry but if someone can't trust their bf/gf when they're not married or engaged, how in the world will they when they commit to a long term relationship? Makes no sense to me. Will they continue to hire PI's every time they suspect cheating?

I'm wondering if it was more than just cheating ? She didn't end up hiring the PI because she was afraid he was going to get angry. :what:

If one suspects a person of pathological lying, they may want to KNOW whether this person is a sociopath or not. One can't be too careful these days, as we have seen over and over in cases here at Websleuths.

Gary Giordano was not married or engaged to his "occasional" girlfriend either, yet she entrusted her LIFE to him on a trip to Aruba.

What this person was looking for in "investigating" him may have been far more than just "cheating". Maybe she wanted to know if he took out a life insurance policy on her before their cruise?? Or whether he was really married or not? Or whether he was a convicted conman on parole??? She may have been victimized before and was just trying to exercise reasonable caution.

I, personally, understand this all too well.

 

[thumbtack]

If one suspects a person of pathological lying, they may want to KNOW whether this person is a sociopath or not. One can't be too careful these days, as we have seen over and over in cases here at Websleuths.

Gary Giordano was not married or engaged to his "occasional" girlfriend either, yet she entrusted her LIFE to him on a trip to Aruba.

What this person was looking for in "investigating" him may have been far more than just "cheating". Maybe she wanted to know if he took out a life insurance policy on her before their cruise?? Or whether he was really married or not? Or whether he was a convicted conman on parole??? She may have been victimized before and was just trying to exercise reasonable caution.

I, personally, understand this all too well.

I understand what you are saying, but, if I had these types of questions/suspicions about a person, they would not even be a friend, never-mind a boyfriend.

 

[thumbtack]

Ok, this is so disturbing to me! My husband, 2 kids and myself just got off this same cruise the voyage before this one (on Monday). This ship is not really a cruise, but a ferry. The 2 nights includes the trip over where it drops you off in the Bahamas, where u then stay for a few days, then the one night to get back to FL. As far as her falling off, I don't see how it's possible. There's a 5 foot fence going all the way around all the open deck areas. It would take quite a bit of effort to fall over that fence! It's quite ironic because my husband & I had a conversation about how it would be a "perfect" crime scene because there are absolutely no cameras anywhere and the open deck was completely desolate. As far as the card swiping goes, my husband swiped all 4 of our cards when the three of us were off doing something else. They never checked to make sure we were present or our identities when they swiped our cards or that we even got on the ship. I really hope this lady decided to stay in the Bahamas in hiding, but it seems very suspicious and the fact they stopped looking for her in 24 hours is disgusting in my opinion.

I just wanted to bump up the BBM part. This ship that Amani was on may not have had photos on the swipe cards. So, she (or her body) may still be in the Bahamas, since we only have the boyfriend's word of last sighting on board.

 

[OneLove]

I understand what you are saying, but, if I had these types of questions/suspicions about a person, they would not even be a friend, never-mind a boyfriend.

The sociopaths game is to make the victim think they are crazy, hallucinating, paranoid, etc. I've seen this, the look deep into the eyes with warm eyes and the words "how can you even THINK such a thing? YOU need help". How can a person know for SURE?

Apparently and fortunately, you've never been victimized by a dangerous pathological sociopath. Too many people in these forums that we read about have been victimized and are now DEAD because they didn't have a clue. I recommend EVERYONE "get a clue". When you do not know a person very well or for very long, it is SMART to be cautious.

Go back and read again about Dennis Rader, boy scout leader, president of his church, long term code enforcement officer. NO ONE suspected him. He was even sleeping in a tent during a boy scout camping trip when one of the murders occurred. His own son was on that trip, saw him go to bed, saw him wake up in the tent in the morning. !!!

So let's say Dennis Rader's wife still had a vague uneasy feeling about him, but no evidence whatsoever. She should have left him for having a vague uneasy feeling??? He surely would have pointed out to her that he was sleeping in a tent in the woods with their son and an entire troop of boy scouts and she "must be crazy". And what if he really was entirely innocent, which she would have had no way of knowing? You are proposing a flood of prematurely and unnecessarily ended relationships by people who have simply learned to be smart with their lives and sure about their relationships?

<modsnip>

Please understand the people who want to be SURE their 'associates' are who they say they are. It is not pathological to be smart.

 

[Saracen]

Golshani reportedly told authorities he last saw Amani at 1 a.m. on Wednesday when she went inside a gift shop and he left for a casino. When he woke up she still hadn't returned.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/03/07/fariba-amani-missing-ramiz-golshani-cruise_n_1325886.html

 

[thumbtack]

The sociopaths game is to make the victim think they are crazy, hallucinating, paranoid, etc. I've seen this, the look deep into the eyes with warm eyes and the words "how can you even THINK such a thing? YOU need help". How can a person know for SURE?

Apparently and fortunately, you've never been victimized by a dangerous pathological sociopath. Too many people in these forums that we read about have been victimized and are now DEAD because they didn't have a clue. I recommend EVERYONE "get a clue". When you do not know a person very well or for very long, it is SMART to be cautious.

Go back and read again about Dennis Rader, boy scout leader, president of his church, long term code enforcement officer. NO ONE suspected him. He was even sleeping in a tent during a boy scout camping trip when one of the murders occurred. His own son was on that trip, saw him go to bed, saw him wake up in the tent in the morning. !!!

So let's say Dennis Rader's wife still had a vague uneasy feeling about him, but no evidence whatsoever. She should have left him for having a vague uneasy feeling??? He surely would have pointed out to her that he was sleeping in a tent in the woods with their son and an entire troop of boy scouts and she "must be crazy". And what if he really was entirely innocent, which she would have had no way of knowing? You are proposing a flood of prematurely and unnecessarily ended relationships by people who have simply learned to be smart with their lives and sure about their relationships?
<modsnip>

Please understand the people who want to be SURE their 'associates' are who they say they are. It is not pathological to be smart.

Perhaps I'm not the gullible one here.

And, I stand by my previous statement. She is thinking of becoming serious w/ this man, yet, wants to hire a private eye, since she suspects him of cheating on her. She cancels the private I, because she's afraid of his anger. Time to move on. Amani is not married or even engaged to him. Leave him in the dust.

 

[cluciano63]

Perhaps I'm not the gullible one here.

And, I stand by my previous statement. She is thinking of becoming serious w/ this man, yet, wants to hire a private eye, since she suspects him of cheating on her. She cancels the private I, because she's afraid of his anger. Time to move on. Amani is not married or even engaged to him. Leave him in the dust.

Yeah, me too...I would not be around anyone who I even felt the slightest need to have followed, etc...

 

[OneLove]

Perhaps I'm not the gullible one here.

And, I stand by my previous statement. She is thinking of becoming serious w/ this man, yet, wants to hire a private eye, since she suspects him of cheating on her. She cancels the private I, because she's afraid of his anger. Time to move on. Amani is not married or even engaged to him. Leave him in the dust.

Sorry Thumbtack. I was not ever implying that YOU were gullible AT ALL.

I probably have not read every news article about this case. Was it said that the whole and only reason she hired a PI was concerns about sexual infidelity, and do you know who said this? And, yes, if she cancelled the PI solely because she was afraid of his anger, I fear she just got herself killed by someone she should have known to stay far away from. So I agree with you there.

In both my work AND personal life, I have known COMPLETELY unsuspecting people who only learned AFTER marriage of the very well hidden crimes and frauds of their COMPLETELY trusted partners. So I don't put much weight on the "blind trusting love" concept.

One was able to get an annulment due to fraud, but several others were not that lucky. And here at Websleuths, we see everyday that TRUSTING a partner is no guarantee that they are trust WORTHY.

My husband was surprised but completely open to a premarital "forensic" checkup, which I felt was necessary because I had children, was giving up a very nice career to move across country to marry him, and we had only known each other a little less than a year. Dating longer long distance would NOT have satisfied my need to be SURE he was not a sex offender, felon, or in deep financial distress that he might be withholding.

Several of my friends lived to wish they HAD done this before their lives were nearly destroyed. THEY trusted absolutely and got burned badly; I doubted and needed to be SURE and have had 17 years of bliss with the most wonderful man in the world.

And btw, if he had balked at having his history looked into, that would have been a giant red flag for me. Why mind if one has nothing to hide?

 

[~n/t~]

Sorry Thumbtack. I was not ever implying that YOU were gullible AT ALL.

I probably have not read every news article about this case. Was it said that the whole and only reason she hired a PI was concerns about sexual infidelity, and do you know who said this? And, yes, if she cancelled the PI solely because she was afraid of his anger, I fear she just got herself killed by someone she should have known to stay far away from. So I agree with you there.

In both my work AND personal life, I have known COMPLETELY unsuspecting people who only learned AFTER marriage of the very well hidden crimes and frauds of their COMPLETELY trusted partners. So I don't put much weight on the "blind trusting love" concept.

One was able to get an annulment due to fraud, but several others were not that lucky. And here at Websleuths, we see everyday that TRUSTING a partner is no guarantee that they are trust WORTHY.

My husband was surprised but completely open to a premarital "forensic" checkup, which I felt was necessary because I had children, was giving up a very nice career to move across country to marry him, and we had only known each other a little less than a year. Dating longer long distance would NOT have satisfied my need to be SURE he was not a sex offender, felon, or in deep financial distress that he might be withholding.

Several of my friends lived to wish they HAD done this before their lives were nearly destroyed. THEY trusted absolutely and got burned badly; I doubted and needed to be SURE and have had 17 years of bliss with the most wonderful man in the world.

And btw, if he had balked at having his history looked into, that would have been a giant red flag for me. Why mind if one has nothing to hide?

In answer to your first paragraph, here is the quote and link to the article:

Particularly disturbing say the family, is Golshani's silence.

"He has not reached out to us. He has not contacted us," said Saloumeh Amani, Fariba's sister.

All of them live near Vancouver, British Columbia. She'd been suspicious of Gholshani ever since her sister told her the relationship was souring, and that she suspected Golshani was cheating on her.

Fariba Amani, went as far as consulting a private detective, but later decided not to employ him because she feared Golshani's reaction.

"She was afraid he would be mad at her," recalled her sister Saloumeh, who said the relationship had been fraying.

http://gma.yahoo.com/missing-cruise...lationship-boyfriend-030709052--abc-news.html