GUILTY Bali - Sheila von Wiese Mack, 62, found dead in suitcase, 12 Aug 2014 #5

[Weezer Fan]

"Lawyers are due back in Cohen's courtroom May 14."

Tomorrow. I wonder if we will hear anything about HM's conviction.

 

[Kamille]

No word from the court today?

 

[Weezer Fan]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/subur...-heather-mack-hearing-met-20150514-story.html

 

[nightwatch]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/subur...-heather-mack-hearing-met-20150514-story.html

I can't open this story, what does it say?

ciao

 

[Weezer Fan]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/subur...-heather-mack-hearing-met-20150514-story.html

Mother of boyfriend in Bali murder: I want truth to come out

In her first public statement since her son was convicted of murder in Bali, the mother of a former Oak Park man said she is concerned about her newborn granddaughter, who has spent the first two months of her life in an Indonesian prison.

Kia Walker offered a brief comment Thursday outside a Chicago courtroom in response to Tribune questions. Moments earlier, she sat alone in the courtroom gallery as lawyers met again in the contentious battle over a $1.56 million trust fund the slain woman left to her daughter, who with Walker's son was found guilty last month in Bali.

Walker's son, Tommy Schaefer, 21, was sentenced to 18 years in prison. Schaefer's girlfriend, Heather Mack, 19, of Chicago, received a 10-year term. Mack gave birth to the young couple's daughter two months ago and says she plans to keep their baby, Stella, with her in prison for the first two years of the child's life.

Walker said she came to court out of concern for her granddaughter, who is next in line for the trust money if Mack is excluded, and to see the proceedings for herself.

"I just want the truth to come out about everything," said Walker, who has traveled to Bali at least twice.

When asked what she meant, Walker paused a while, then said she could not immediately comment further.

Since the April 21 verdict, a Cook County judge overseeing the trust fund case has said he will not release another penny until it is determined whether Mack still is entitled to the money now that she has a criminal conviction.

At issue is Illinois' slayer statute. Under the law, a person who intentionally and unjustifiably caused the death of another person cannot receive property as a result of the death of that person.
.........

Attorneys are awaiting written clarification of Mack's criminal conviction to see how it will be interpreted under Illinois law and whether she may still access her trust.

Wiese's attorney, Leonard LeRose, said Thursday that he anticipates receiving a certified copy of Mack's conviction Friday, but it will need to be translated into English. LeRose told Cohen it is his understanding that Mack was convicted under Indonesian law of deliberately assisting with a premeditated murder.

Lawyers are due back in the Chicago courtroom June 1. It's possible that evidence from Mack's trial in Indonesia may be presented if a slayer statute hearing is held before Cohen, and Mack may be asked to make an appearance via video conference.

 

[nightwatch]

http://www.chicagotribune.com/subur...-heather-mack-hearing-met-20150514-story.html

Mother of boyfriend in Bali murder: I want truth to come out

In her first public statement since her son was convicted of murder in Bali, the mother of a former Oak Park man said she is concerned about her newborn granddaughter, who has spent the first two months of her life in an Indonesian prison.

Kia Walker offered a brief comment Thursday outside a Chicago courtroom in response to Tribune questions. Moments earlier, she sat alone in the courtroom gallery as lawyers met again in the contentious battle over a $1.56 million trust fund the slain woman left to her daughter, who with Walker's son was found guilty last month in Bali.

Walker's son, Tommy Schaefer, 21, was sentenced to 18 years in prison. Schaefer's girlfriend, Heather Mack, 19, of Chicago, received a 10-year term. Mack gave birth to the young couple's daughter two months ago and says she plans to keep their baby, Stella, with her in prison for the first two years of the child's life.

Walker said she came to court out of concern for her granddaughter, who is next in line for the trust money if Mack is excluded, and to see the proceedings for herself.

"I just want the truth to come out about everything," said Walker, who has traveled to Bali at least twice.

When asked what she meant, Walker paused a while, then said she could not immediately comment further.

Since the April 21 verdict, a Cook County judge overseeing the trust fund case has said he will not release another penny until it is determined whether Mack still is entitled to the money now that she has a criminal conviction.

At issue is Illinois' slayer statute. Under the law, a person who intentionally and unjustifiably caused the death of another person cannot receive property as a result of the death of that person.
.........

Attorneys are awaiting written clarification of Mack's criminal conviction to see how it will be interpreted under Illinois law and whether she may still access her trust.

Wiese's attorney, Leonard LeRose, said Thursday that he anticipates receiving a certified copy of Mack's conviction Friday, but it will need to be translated into English. LeRose told Cohen it is his understanding that Mack was convicted under Indonesian law of deliberately assisting with a premeditated murder.

Lawyers are due back in the Chicago courtroom June 1. It's possible that evidence from Mack's trial in Indonesia may be presented if a slayer statute hearing is held before Cohen, and Mack may be asked to make an appearance via video conference.

Next question should have been how much money is walker sending her grandchild. The nerve standing in the courtroom trying to see what happens with money belonging to the woman her son killed. Smdh Backing away from keyboard.

ciao

 

[peedoffinny]

Oh I'm sure Gramma is going to fight for custody and wants to make sure it's worth her while. I wish someone on Sheila's side would take the baby.

 

[Kamille]

Oh I'm sure Gramma is going to fight for custody and wants to make sure it's worth her while. I wish someone on Sheila's side would take the baby.

No way is HM going to let anyone take that baby. Not as long as she's possibly worth something, whether that be as a pawn for an easier ride in prison or whether she actually is considered an heir of SWM and therefore allows HM access to the funds if that right is taken away from her personally.


MOO

 

[IslandLover]

I can't open this story, what does it say?

ciao

Kia Walker was in the public gallery in Judge Cohen's courtroom today to listen to the trust fund hearing. I don't think I can reproduce the whole article here, but here's the pertinent bits.

In her first public statement since her son was convicted of murder in Bali, the mother of a former Oak Park man said she is concerned about her newborn granddaughter, who has spent the first two months of her life in an Indonesian prison.

Kia Walker offered a brief comment Thursday outside a Chicago courtroom in response to Tribune questions. Moments earlier, she sat alone in the courtroom gallery as lawyers met again in the contentious battle over a $1.56 million trust fund the slain woman left to her daughter, who with Walker's son was found guilty last month in Bali.

Walker said she came to court out of concern for her granddaughter, who is next in line for the trust money if Mack is excluded, and to see the proceedings for herself.

"I just want the truth to come out about everything," said Walker, who has traveled to Bali at least twice.

When asked what she meant, Walker paused a while, then said she could not immediately comment further.

Since the April 21 verdict, a Cook County judge overseeing the trust fund case has said he will not release another penny until it is determined whether Mack still is entitled to the money now that she has a criminal conviction.

At issue is Illinois' slayer statute. Under the law, a person who intentionally and unjustifiably caused the death of another person cannot receive property as a result of the death of that person.

Attorneys are awaiting written clarification of Mack's criminal conviction to see how it will be interpreted under Illinois law and whether she may still access her trust.

Wiese's attorney, Leonard LeRose, said Thursday that he anticipates receiving a certified copy of Mack's conviction Friday, but it will need to be translated into English. LeRose told Cohen it is his understanding that Mack was convicted under Indonesian law of deliberately assisting with a premeditated murder.

Lawyers are due back in the Chicago courtroom June 1. It's possible that evidence from Mack's trial in Indonesia may be presented if a slayer statute hearing is held before Cohen, and Mack may be asked to make an appearance via video conference.

It also says that Judge Cohen has so far denied the $200,000 that Ari Soenardi has demanded to fight the prosecution's appeal against HM's lenient sentence.

What can Kia Walker mean when she says "I just want the truth to come out about everything"?

 

[FigTree]

No way is HM going to let anyone take that baby. Not as long as she's possibly worth something, whether that be as a pawn for an easier ride in prison or whether she actually is considered an heir of SWM and therefore allows HM access to the funds if that right is taken away from her personally.


MOO

I wonder if Stella is coping with HM - HM's attitude would be pretty sour by now.
As for the concern from Kia Walker towards Stella, I think that may relate to some tension that has been exhibited towards her by HM - HM called her a liar publicly. (Another websleuther has picked up on that in another Video.

I don't think there is any love lost there - but it is her son who has been convicted (rightly so) - and more harshly than HM - and so 'What truth' is supposed to come out?
Its a bit late now to be saying there's more to the story if there was something known prior to the sentencing in Bali - and it makes me think if there was no objection or 'truth' being said, then it seems to me that everyone was thinking that SvWM's money would solve all their problems. Now, that the money is not forthcoming, it seems that 'the want for the Truth' is now coming into play.

I think HM has strung everyone along during her pretrial - a promise of payment from the Trust Fund.
Now its not there.

I wonder how long HM would hold onto Baby Stella if she wasn't next in line to 'the Money'.
I'd be thinking - not long at all before Stella takes the brunt of HM's anger - if that isn't already happening on some level in that bought cell that she sits in.

 

[FigTree]

Amazing I missed this....(as the entire case of self defence was based around TS being angry to be called the 'N' word and such offence was taken that TS's response was to start strangling SvWM) ...
It just confirms my belief further that whatever excuses thy are using in court, whatever they say happened to SvWM - are lies.


HM uses the 'N' word twice while she's talking to TS while in the bus
- she talking about a reporter who is taking photos from outside the bus - some 'attitude' here?
- not even a blink of an eye ....
HM says: ... "this N**** got his eyeful ... trying to get a quick $20...."


If you got to the last video down in the article - titled:[h=1]Heather Mack And Tommy Schaefer Head To Their Sentencing[/h]
The time stamp starts for the comment starts at approx 1 minute.
Video of HM & TS in bus before sentencing –
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...by-going-bald-junk-food-diet-Bali-prison.html


WTH.

 

[jerseygirl48]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ice-1-56m-trust-fund-set-mother-murdered.html

Let the games begin!

 

[Cyberburn]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ice-1-56m-trust-fund-set-mother-murdered.html

Let the games begin!

Just saw this too on the Daily Mail! This is insane!!!!!!

 

[Kamille]

EXCLUSIVE: Boyfriend of ‘body in suitcase’ teen Heather Mack demands slice of $1.56m trust fund set up by mother they murdered



Whoops....you forgot to get paid up front Tommy. :doh:

Unbelievable. I hope the true story comes out too Ms Walker.

MOO

 

[ajaylee]

Wow.

I wonder if Kia clued TS in or if it was his cellmates, or both: "dude, you've been totally suckered".

I hope our lawyers weigh in here. I can't imagine a legal basis for him to go after the money.

Kia wants the 'truth' to come out? Which 'truth'? The one that says an exhausted, half-naked old woman jumped out of her bed and attacked a man a third her age, a foot taller, and half again her weight? The 'truth' about the pre-planned murder? The 'truth' about SWM going ballistic on hearing her daughter was pregnant again - except she had known for weeks?

Perhaps Kia would care to share with us the 'truth' about how she has spent the $10K from the fund-raising website.

I wonder what difference Kia thinks the 'truth' will make for TS? Exonerate him? How and why does she think the 'truth' entitles TS to SWM's money?

Interesting to note that HM doesn't have her semi-private cell yet. IIRC, it will cost $700+/month, so perhaps she's waiting for the additional funds.

Sadly, there's no date set for an appeal, so no pressure to release additional funds to Soenardi. I imagine this didn't go down well with TS - HM gets barely half his sentence and she may manage to reduce it even more, while he's still stuck, no one offering him a semi-private cell. I notice that he has to send her notes to communicate: I suspect he knows she has a phone and internet and enough $ to not care if they confiscate her Iphone, because she'll just buy another one.

This may be more than a lover's quarrel. Very good news for any future US trial, IMHO. Interesting that he doesn't trust her to be waiting for him when he gets out.

Maybe he should start making 'prison rap' videos to earn some money. Not.

 

[Kamille]

If he's sneaking prison notes to HM then it looks like he doesn't have a cell phone either. I assumed HM was using some of her funds to keep him in communication with her. I guess she doesn't want him to be in communication with the rest of the world at the same time? And I also assumed that she was getting him food from their "friends" during her daily visitation and meal drop offs. Perhaps he doesn't realize that she's run low on funds and now he's not getting his meals delivered daily so it's finally dawned on him that she'll always put herself first?

You've been had Tommy. And you're not entitled to a dime of your victim's money. But how about telling your side of the story anyway? We're listening

MOO

 

[nightwatch]

If he's sneaking prison notes to HM then it looks like he doesn't have a cell phone either. I assumed HM was using some of her funds to keep him in communication with her. I guess she doesn't want him to be in communication with the rest of the world at the same time? And I also assumed that she was getting him food from their "friends" during her daily visitation and meal drop offs. Perhaps he doesn't realize that she's run low on funds and now he's not getting his meals delivered daily so it's finally dawned on him that she'll always put herself first?

You've been had Tommy. And you're not entitled to a dime of your victim's money. But how about telling your side of the story anyway? We're listening

MOO

Yeah! Keep talking and adding bricks to a murder case in the US, pond scum. TS killer and his mother and HM killer and her atty circling around SVM's money. HM is probly writing IOU's to everybody in the prison. To the back of the rice line HM and TS. Jmo

ciao

 

[whatthewhaat]

This is just laughable. It sounds like he's not trying to make a legal claim to the money, and is just pressuring HM.

I can't help but think Kia is referring to who actually did the killing - I'm still thinking it was really Heather... And if that's the case hopefully Tommy reaches a breaking point and starts talking

 

[Hiandmighty]

I agree that it sounds like to me that Kia inferred her son didnt do the actual killing. Too late now though...

 

[whatthewhaat]

I agree that it sounds like to me that Kia inferred her son didnt do the actual killing. Too late now though...

Too late for him... But I'm sure the court documents regarding Heather's sentence are going to be composed in a manner to maximize her chances of getting the trust fund and it may or may not work. If it does they may still be able to block her with a confession from Tommy...