Bankrupt Casey Anthony interviewed by KPHO CBS in Phoenix #2

[?noanswer]

Isn't it curious that attorney Baez, whom she alleged she owes $ 500,000 to, STILL has not filed a Proof of Claim with the bankruptcy court?!
The deadline to file is June 24th.

If he doesn't throw his $500,000. into the hat, will she have enough in claims to even qualify for BK? I don't know if there is an amount that one has to owe in order to qualify.

JMO

 

[ThinkTank]

http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/judge-delays-decision-in-casey-anthony-civil-suits/v3qWZ/

VIDEO

Judge delays decision in Casey Anthony civil suits
Late Thursday afternoon a federal judge in Tampa delayed making a decision in two civil cases against Casey Anthony.


VIDEO - Kathi Belich

Kathi to Zenaida attorney Shuker - Can you imagine a situation where someone would accuse someone of kidnapping and possibly murder and it not be with malice?

Zenaida attorney Shuker - I have no idea how it couldn't be.

Kathi to Casey Anthony attorney Chemlir - what exactly is the LEGAL basis for you arguing Casey, that she still has a Fifth Amendment right?

Casey Anthony attorney Debra Ferwerda - that can't be discussed...

Kathi - because you don't know? or you have reason for that ....

Ferwerda - no, we know ...

Chemlir - as we've discussed previously in court, to discuss many of those issues is to give up the very protection that the Constitution affords her

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http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/judge-delays-decision-casey-anthony-civil-suits/nX7K7/
ARTICLE
Thursday, May 30, 2013
Judge delays decision in Casey Anthony civil suits

excerpts:

Anthony was hoping to get the defamation lawsuits thrown out to avoid liability and to avoid having to testify.

Sheaffer said the survival of the lawsuits hinges on whether Anthony's accusations against innocent people were malicious.

Anthony's lawyers want the federal judge to throw out the two defamation lawsuits against her filed by Gonzalez and by Roy Kronk, the man who found the remains of Anthony's daughter, Caylee.

The lawsuits accuse Anthony of blaming Gonzalez and Krong for Caylee's disappearance or death.

Then Anthony would like to be cleared of all her other debts.

On Thursday, the judge said that Anthony might have to testify about why she said what she said.

Anthony's lawyers said they still think she has the right to take the Fifth and not testify in the defamation cases.

"We'll address issues as they arise. That's all I can say on that," Anthony's lawyer Andrew Chmelir said Thursday.

"The whole goal here of theirs has been, 'Let us get this decided without putting poor Casey on the stand,'" said Scott Shuker, Gonzalez's lawyer.

Sheaffer said Anthony has no more pending criminal cases against her. She can't argue that she might incriminate herself.

He said he believes the federal bankruptcy judge might order her to come back to Tampa and take the witness stand.

 

[ThinkTank]

http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/casey-anthony-may-testify/v3qgq/
video

Casey Anthony may testify

Casey Anthony may end up having to testify in two defamation cases against her. (5/30/13)

Kathi Belich - Today, her lawyers claim she can still take the Fifth, but would not back up that claim legally.

Casey's attorney Andrew Chemlir - we'll just address the issues as they arise, that's all I can say on that.

Kathi Belich - Gonzalez' lawyer says there is no legal reason for Casey to refuse to testify.

Zenaida attorney Shuker - the whole goal of them, here, has been - let us try and get this decided without putting poor Casey on the stand

Kathi Belich - Attorney Bill Sheaffer says the survival of the lawsuits hinges on whether Casey's serious accusations against innocent people were malicious.

Sheaffer - the most efficient way to handle is to have Casey Anthony testify as to what she said, why she said it

Kathi Belich - Sheaffer says that is just what the bankruptcy judge could make her do

Greg Warmoth WFTV - Sheaffer also says Casey Anthony has no more pending criminal cases against her, so she cannot argue that she might incriminate herself by testifying.

 

[logicalgirl]

respectfully snipped... and my bold...





all I can say re bold... :woot: :skip: :skip:

:floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: Okay Niner - your bottom "by-line" is THE BEST I have ever seen!

 

[?noanswer]

http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/casey-anthony-may-testify/v3qgq/
video

Casey Anthony may testify

Casey Anthony may end up having to testify in two defamation cases against her. (5/30/13)

Kathi Belich - Today, her lawyers claim she can still take the Fifth, but would not back up that claim legally.

Casey's attorney Andrew Chemlir - we'll just address the issues as they arise, that's all I can say on that.

Kathi Belich - Gonzalez' lawyer says there is no legal reason for Casey to refuse to testify.

Zenaida attorney Shuker - the whole goal of them, here, has been - let us try and get this decided without putting poor Casey on the stand

Kathi Belich - Attorney Bill Sheaffer says the survival of the lawsuits hinges on whether Casey's serious accusations against innocent people were malicious.

Sheaffer - the most efficient way to handle is to have Casey Anthony testify as to what she said, why she said it

Kathi Belich - Sheaffer says that is just what the bankruptcy judge could make her do

Greg Warmoth WFTV - Sheaffer also says Casey Anthony has no more pending criminal cases against her, so she cannot argue that she might incriminate herself by testifying.

I hope all of these commentors are right, but they were "wrong" as most of us were in their opinion that CA would be convicted for little Caylee's death.

JMO

 

[ThinkTank]

5/30/2013
HEARING

Hearing Proceeding Memo: Hearing Held

APPEARANCES:
David Schrader, [Casey Anthony]
Debra Ferwerda, [Casey Anthony]
Andrew Chmelir, [Casey Anthony]
Allan Watkins, [Trustee]
Michael Nardella, [Roy Kronk]
Josh Marchs [?] [possibly Joshua A. Marcus with TXEquuSearch law firm of
Meland Russin Budwick
Joshua is an associate with the Firm, and focuses his practice on bankruptcy and complex commercial litigation.]
Scott Shuker [Zenaida Gonzalez]

RULING: 1 -
Motion to Extend Time to file Complaint Objecting to Discharge of the Debtor or to Challenge Dischargeability of Certain Debts
Filed by R Scott Shuker on behalf of Creditor Zenaida Gonzalez,
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIT3V4Z1FTeEJLd0E/edit?pli=1
AMENDED MOTION - https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIT255YWwxVkUySW8/edit?pli=1
and Debtor's Response
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIeVpwZ01oay1TSHM/edit?pli=1
Under Advisement

2 - Motion to Extend Time to object to discharge and/or dischargeability of debt
Filed by Michael Nardella on behalf of Creditor Roy Kronk
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIZkxsbVNyUlI0QlU/edit?pli=1
and Debtor's Response
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIS0VXTFE1Mmt0dEE/edit?pli=1
Under Advisement

3 - Objection to Debtor's Claim of Exemptions
filed by Michael Nardella on behalf of Roy Kronk
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIamtRVy1ZQVFacGM/edit?pli=1
Denied as moot

4 - Amended Objection to Debtor's Claim of Exemptions
filed by R Scott Shuker on behalf of Zenaida Gonzalez
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpISUxETlBEY1ZYMVk/edit?pli=1
Sustained as outlined

5 - Motion for Relief from Stay
Filed by Michael Nardella on behalf of Creditor Roy Kronk
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpINWRiRkZHYzVLeUU/edit?pli=1
and Debtor's Response
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIYmJaQllPTDNXMHM/edit?pli=1
One week to file any additional documentation/authorities;
Under Advisement

6 - Motion for Relief from Stay
Filed by R Scott Shuker on behalf of Creditor Zenaida Gonzalez
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIcHQ1U0dPeFBHR1U/edit?pli=1
and Debtor's Response
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpIWWZ2Q25EUEJ4QkU/edit?pli=1
One week to file any additional documentation/authorities;
Under Advisement

Proposed Orders, if applicable, should be submitted within three days after the date of the hearing - Local Rule 9072-1(c). This docket entry/document is not an official order of the Court. (Dkt) (Entered: 05/30/2013)

 

[logicalgirl]

Isn't it curious that attorney Baez, whom she alleged she owes $ 500,000 to, STILL has not filed a Proof of Claim with the bankruptcy court?!
The deadline to file is June 24th.

There is nothing curious about that at all!!:floorlaugh: :floorlaugh: :floorlaugh:

I see the Trustee has attempted to contact Baez who "has not responded"..Okay Jose - let's do it the hard way...raise your right hand....

 

[logicalgirl]

JB under oath - get the opcorn:

Good Times!!!! :worms: :lol:

 

[skbsoccermom]

Is there even a question that is was malicious? Who blames someone for kidnapping a small child just for the he** of it?
Oh, and I noticed FCA had several attorney's who showed up on her behalf. I just don't get it. It is maddening.

 

[magnolia]

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:I still wouldn't watch if his tongue were notarized!

:laugh:BBM--That is too funny !!!

 

[gramcracker]

If he doesn't throw his $500,000. into the hat, will she have enough in claims to even qualify for BK? I don't know if there is an amount that one has to owe in order to qualify.

JMO

in reading about different bankruptcy chapters I saw this comparison chart for chapter 7 (complete liquidation of debts/creditors receive nothing) and chapter 13 (debtor agrees to payment plan to pay creditors). an IRS levy and having significant assets you don't want to lose in a chapter 7 are indicators for filing chapter 13 (but she is hiding significant assets and 13 is the pay-your-creditors chapter, dang it)
http://www.bankruptcylawhelp.com/Ban...hapter-13.aspx

chapter 13 is for debtors owing less than $307,675 who agree to live on a budget created by the IRS so they can make payments to their creditors, oops

FCA alleges that her debt is $793,341. disregarding JB's $500,000 claim brings her debt under the chapter 13 limiit. using his claim puts her above the chapter 13 limit

she went chapter 7, to avoid being threatened with the inconvenience of paying what she owes and JB's $500,000 is what determines which chapter she is eligible for
http://www.americanbar.org/content/d...thcheckdam.pdf

I can't tell if taxes and IRS levies are non-dischargable for chapter 7 (the IRS is the first in line for chapter 13 payments). is the IRS listed as a creditor because something she filed is pending but there's no decision yet so they're still a creditor? something was 240 days and something was 3 years so the IRS should forgive the $68,000? is it the chicken or the egg, the IRS forgives so subtract that from her debt or the bankruptcy discharges it before the IRS decides? $793,341 - $568,000 = $225,341. big difference. huge

 

[katydid23]

That would be funny if Baez didn't file and it screwed his famous client over in BK court. LOL :dance:

 

[coco puff]

I would just love to hear one good reason why the mother of a accidentally drowned daughter would ever ever ever need to plead the 5th to avoid explaining how the accident happened ( with no threat of criminal legal action) Does anyone really buy this bull or have they just abandoned commen sense for ever???

 

[?noanswer]

I would just love to hear one good reason why the mother of a accidentally drowned daughter would ever ever ever need to plead the 5th to avoid explaining how the accident happened ( with no threat of criminal legal action) Does anyone really buy this bull or have they just abandoned commen sense for ever???

BBM

I don't.


Cause she doesn't have it her to tell the truth and then which version would she use. It would also take away her big book "reveal".

I think the attys. representing her are just as crazy as she is. Why would they expend this many hours and/or money on this. Maybe they can't quit now because they have too much invested and don't want any of that revealed.

JMO

 

[ZsaZsa]

That would be funny if Baez didn't file and it screwed his famous client over in BK court. LOL :dance:

All he has to do is produce his itemized bills for the work done. I'm sure he can do that........:facepalm:
Anyone who has used an Attorney knows they are generally meticulous keepers of records of all work done, of time spent, phone calls made, on your behalf. They do not let $500K get written off!

 

[ThinkTank]

All he has to do is produce his itemized bills for the work done. I'm sure he can do that........:facepalm:
Anyone who has used an Attorney knows they are generally meticulous keepers of records of all work done, of time spent, phone calls made, on your behalf. They do not let $500K get written off!

The ethical attorney would also keep meticulous records on donations and gifts received on behalf of the client. That is the biggest way to get in trouble with the Florida Bar -- mishandling a client's money.

 

[logicalgirl]

All he has to do is produce his itemized bills for the work done. I'm sure he can do that........:facepalm:
Anyone who has used an Attorney knows they are generally meticulous keepers of records of all work done, of time spent, phone calls made, on your behalf. They do not let $500K get written off!

The curious thing for me is when Baez would claim he had actually done work to earn the 500K.

Since she was declared indigent early on in the trial, my understanding was that he was unable to charge her more than the original 89+ thousand he kept as his share of the ABC photo "sale".

So the trial ended in what - early August? Well, the probation brouhaha carried into August, but Mason claimed he was the only person handling that and the further appeals. And Baez resigned in January the following year.

So.....August to January...sort of six months he did work for her totaled 500K? Hmmmmm.....:waitasec:

Something tells me he will be doing more "Ahhhh" and "Ummms" than he usually does when he finally has to testify about said 500K...

 

[logicalgirl]

I would just love to hear one good reason why the mother of a accidentally drowned daughter would ever ever ever need to plead the 5th to avoid explaining how the accident happened ( with no threat of criminal legal action) Does anyone really buy this bull or have they just abandoned commen sense for ever???

All together now!! AMEN TO THAT!!!!

 

[Intermezzo]

The curious thing for me is when Baez would claim he had actually done work to earn the 500K.

Since she was declared indigent early on in the trial, my understanding was that he was unable to charge her more than the original 89+ thousand he kept as his share of the ABC photo "sale".

So the trial ended in what - early August? Well, the probation brouhaha carried into August, but Mason claimed he was the only person handling that and the further appeals. And Baez resigned in January the following year.

So.....August to January...sort of six months he did work for her totaled 500K? Hmmmmm.....:waitasec:

Something tells me he will be doing more "Ahhhh" and "Ummms" than he usually does when he finally has to testify about said 500K...

Just wanted to add OCA's Motion for Determination of Indigent for Costs and the Affidavit for Lawyer Fees

http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2010-07/55220170.pdf


Stating what Andrea Lyon and Baez were paid and no other payments were to be made to them or anticipated to be made to them in the future


Also stated in the Motion is that Andrea Lyon, received no fee (I guess that means the money she got was for expenses and not for representation) and that she was and continued to work Pro Bono.

 

[?noanswer]

Just wanted to add OCA's Motion for Determination of Indigent for Costs and the Affidavit for Lawyer Fees

http://media.trb.com/media/acrobat/2010-07/55220170.pdf


Stating what Andrea Lyon and Baez were paid and no other payments were to be made to them or anticipated to be made to them in the future


Also stated in the Motion is that Andrea Lyon, received no fee (I guess that means the money she got was for expenses and not for representation) and that she was and continued to work Pro Bono.

It also stated she had not worked since she had been incarcerated. Hello, she had worked very little before that and none since she has been free. Work is a dirty word to her. She had rather take what belongs to others.

JMO