Bankrupt Casey Anthony interviewed by KPHO CBS in Phoenix #2

Strategy. File on the deadline day and try and get another 30 days. Force a hearing, and get an even longer time. Fire an attorney and hire another one who has to get up to speed on the case....yawn.

I know we have beaten this one into the ground, but where is the money for all of this coming from? Imagine if these folks donated their time to an indigent lawyer type program for domestic violence victims, custody issues etc?? Wow, what a difference they could make.

Exactly!
Seems like if the judge gives Casey's attorneys more [already had 30 days] time to file ANSWERS to both Zenaida and Kronk, that this would also push the already scheduled Hearing of Sept 17th, further out too.

Zenaida and Kronk will need time to read the ANSWERS, then prepare for the Hearing.

I fully expect this bankruptcy judge who has sympathy for the poor thing who is destitute [but can come up with $ 25,000], and a gaggle of FREE attorneys, to allow Casey's attorneys more time.
 
I wonder if the judge can give any weight to the newspaper article that tells of two separate offers made to her totally well over a million dollars. She can continue to claim she has no project in the works, yet both these men say they have made offers. How can she get away with the lies?
 
I wonder if the judge can give any weight to the newspaper article that tells of two separate offers made to her totally well over a million dollars. She can continue to claim she has no project in the works, yet both these men say they have made offers. How can she get away with the lies?

The Trustee and the Judge are apparently willing to overlook many offers that have been made to her.
She probably just says that her attorney(s) handled all that for her and she didn't know about the offers.
And her attorneys say they just blew off the offers as not credible.
 
The Trustee and the Judge are apparently willing to overlook many offers that have been made to her.
She probably just says that her attorney(s) handled all that for her and she didn't know about the offers.
And her attorneys say they just blew off the offers as not credible.

I will be sure and email him when the bankruptcy is over and she is laughing all the way to the bank with offers of $$$.
 
I wonder if the judge can give any weight to the newspaper article that tells of two separate offers made to her totally well over a million dollars. She can continue to claim she has no project in the works, yet both these men say they have made offers. How can she get away with the lies?

Same way she got away with murder.:banghead:
 
I was hoping it was only a matter of time before these attorneys got tired of working for free, babysitting, and footing the bills. Think about it ... if she really doesn't go out, then someone has to be doing even menial tasks for her like getting groceries.
I'm glad Zenaida and Kronk are keeping them tied up in court. Not only are her attorney's losing money by donating their own time, but they have to pay their staff, court fees, etc.. And as far as her living expenses .. the Dr Phil money can only go so far, so is she expecting her attorney's to support her too? We all know she's ungrateful. I hope she wore out her welcome.
 
They do get tired and then they leave. It is another example of how the machine continues to run around her, insuring that she never takes any kind of responsibility for her life as an adult. She was raised with everyone protecting her from herself-it ended in it's inevitable conclusion which was that she murdered her inconvenient child who was also loved far more than she was at the time.

She is Peter Pan and people continue to enable her to be so. She will end up doing a sex tape to make her millions because the public will have zero interest in her side of any story unless she confesses.

Whatever-she will face the music eventually. They always do. JMVHO.
 
I have said many times that someone is enabling her and supporting her. The Dr Phil money is long gone with the way the Anthony's go through money. One of her lawyers (past or present) probably thinks he can write a tell all book. JMO
 
I have said many times that someone is enabling her and supporting her. The Dr Phil money is long gone with the way the Anthony's go through money. One of her lawyers (past or present) probably thinks he can write a tell all book. JMO

Baez already tried that. He had to pay to have it published and sales have been dismal. I can't imagine who would want to read his lies...
 
Casey Anthony's attorney Debra Ferwerda filed a Request for more time to file their ANSWERS to Zenaida and Kronk's new complaints.

The DEADLINE to file the ANSWERS was August 21, 2013.
ANSWERs were not filed.

Casey Anthony has MANY attorneys working for her, and they all knew the ANSWERS were due by August 21, 2013.

Attorney Ferwerda stated in her Request that "A member of the Debtor's legal team is unavailable due to a family medical emergency and requests an additional thirty (30) days to answer the Plaintiff's complaints."

My question would be what DATE did this "family medical emergency" arise?
Why weren't the ANSWERS prepared BEFORE the "family medical emergency" arose, for ONE of Casey's attorneys?

And, which "member of the legal team" had the "family medical emergency"?

And, why didn't another one of her MANY attorneys file the ANSWERS by the DEADLINE?
They didn't ALL have a "family medical emergency".


Casey Anthony attorneys who have attended her bankruptcy Hearings are:
- Charles Greene
- David Schrader
- Debra Ferwerda
- Andrew Chmelir

Schrader AND Ferwerda are attorneys ON RECORD and either could have filed the ANSWERS by DEADLINE.

The other attorneys could have helped prepare the ANSWERS, to be ready to file by DEADLINE.

I would hope that Zenaida and Kronk attorneys would file an OBJECTION to Ferwerda's request for 30 MORE days to file the ANSWERs. They already had 30 days to file. And the next Hearing is set for Sept 17th.

Maybe Zenaida's attorney's Motion for DEFAULT Judgment is his form of "Objection" to the request for more time?
 
Casey Anthony's attorney Debra Ferwerda filed a Request for more time to file their ANSWERS to Zenaida and Kronk's new complaints.

The DEADLINE to file the ANSWERS was August 21, 2013.
ANSWERs were not filed.

Casey Anthony has MANY attorneys working for her, and they all knew the ANSWERS were due by August 21, 2013.

Attorney Ferwerda stated in her Request that "A member of the Debtor's legal team is unavailable due to a family medical emergency and requests an additional thirty (30) days to answer the Plaintiff's complaints."

My question would be what DATE did this "family medical emergency" arise?
Why weren't the ANSWERS prepared BEFORE the "family medical emergency" arose, for ONE of Casey's attorneys?

And, which "member of the legal team" had the "family medical emergency"?

And, why didn't another one of her MANY attorneys file the ANSWERS by the DEADLINE?
They didn't ALL have a "family medical emergency".


Casey Anthony attorneys who have attended her bankruptcy Hearings are:
- Charles Greene
- David Schrader
- Debra Ferwerda
- Andrew Chmelir

Schrader AND Ferwerda are attorneys ON RECORD and either could have filed the ANSWERS by DEADLINE.

The other attorneys could have helped prepare the ANSWERS, to be ready to file by DEADLINE.

I would hope that Zenaida and Kronk attorneys would file an OBJECTION to Ferwerda's request for 30 MORE days to file the ANSWERs. They already had 30 days to file. And the next Hearing is set for Sept 17th.

Maybe Zenaida's attorney's Motion for DEFAULT Judgment is his form of "Objection" to the request for more time?

IIRC, they have used that "reason" before to extend a deadline to file documents.
 
IIRC, they have used that "reason" before to extend a deadline to file documents.

Indeed! You do remember correctly!

The attorney who is claiming "family medical emergency" now, Debra Ferwerda, joined the bankruptcy team on February 25, 2013.
Ferwerda was already involved with Casey Anthony's civil case against Zenaida before Casey filed bankruptcy, along with Andrew Chmelir and Charles Greene -- she simply filed Notice of Appearance so she could officially be on the bankruptcy team.

Just so happens that the bankruptcy "team" for Casey Anthony already pulled the same type of excuse back when the bankruptcy case had just started, and Zenaida and Kronk wanted the case transferred back to Orlando [out of Tampa].

Her bankruptcy attorney, David Schrader, filed an "Emergency Motion to Continue/Reschedule Hearing On Motion to Transfer Case to Orlando", on February 22, 2013. [most likely after discussions with the other members of the "team"]

Schrader said in his Motion that he needed more time to prepare the paperwork for the Hearing on the Motion to Transfer to Orlando, because he had another important case, and Schrader also says that his close friend's mother passed away last week and service was on Friday Feb 22, 2013. With the funeral and other matters, Schrader has been unable to devote time for preparation of Casey's Response to the Zenaida Motion to Transfer to Orlando, and no time to prepare for the Mirabilis Final Hearing scheduled for Feb 26, 2013.

The bankruptcy judge rejected Casey's bankruptcy attorney(s) plea for more time and excuses, and went ahead with the Hearing as scheduled, and ultimately ruled in Casey's favor anyway, by denying Zenaida and Kronk's request to Transfer to Orlando.

Didn't work for them that time -- but I guess her attorneys think that it is a "good cause" excuse to ask for more time, AGAIN, to file the ANSWERS to Zenaida and Kronk's Complaints now.

I find it very interesting that Casey's bankruptcy David Schrader, is NOT on this latest Request for more time -- the only attorney on that Request is Debra Ferwerda.
What happened to Schrader?
Does Schrader not support the request for more time?
Is Schrader still on the "team"? There has been no "Withdrawal of Counsel" doc filed [yet].
 
I hope that these continuous delays cost what is left of "Team OCA" mucho $$$.

I think they are nothing but suckers at this point.
 
Indeed! You do remember correctly!

The attorney who is claiming "family medical emergency" now, Debra Ferwerda, joined the bankruptcy team on February 25, 2013.
Ferwerda was already involved with Casey Anthony's civil case against Zenaida before Casey filed bankruptcy, along with Andrew Chmelir and Charles Greene -- she simply filed Notice of Appearance so she could officially be on the bankruptcy team.

Just so happens that the bankruptcy "team" for Casey Anthony already pulled the same type of excuse back when the bankruptcy case had just started, and Zenaida and Kronk wanted the case transferred back to Orlando [out of Tampa].

Her bankruptcy attorney, David Schrader, filed an "Emergency Motion to Continue/Reschedule Hearing On Motion to Transfer Case to Orlando", on February 22, 2013. [most likely after discussions with the other members of the "team"]

Schrader said in his Motion that he needed more time to prepare the paperwork for the Hearing on the Motion to Transfer to Orlando, because he had another important case, and Schrader also says that his close friend's mother passed away last week and service was on Friday Feb 22, 2013. With the funeral and other matters, Schrader has been unable to devote time for preparation of Casey's Response to the Zenaida Motion to Transfer to Orlando, and no time to prepare for the Mirabilis Final Hearing scheduled for Feb 26, 2013.

The bankruptcy judge rejected Casey's bankruptcy attorney(s) plea for more time and excuses, and went ahead with the Hearing as scheduled, and ultimately ruled in Casey's favor anyway, by denying Zenaida and Kronk's request to Transfer to Orlando.

Didn't work for them that time -- but I guess her attorneys think that it is a "good cause" excuse to ask for more time, AGAIN, to file the ANSWERS to Zenaida and Kronk's Complaints now.

I find it very interesting that Casey's bankruptcy David Schrader, is NOT on this latest Request for more time -- the only attorney on that Request is Debra Ferwerda.
What happened to Schrader?
Does Schrader not support the request for more time?
Is Schrader still on the "team"? There has been no "Withdrawal of Counsel" doc filed [yet].

Maybe Schrader has realized that (a) the law abiding public despises lawyers who claim to work pro bono, when it's obvious he's in line with all the others, waiting for a nice bonus when she starts making money, and (b) the law abiding public despises her even more now she's walking away from the debts she incurred, and (c) she's actually not going to make any $$$ after all.
 
you spin me right round, baby
right round like a record, baby
right round round round

you spin me right round, baby
right round like a record, baby
right round round round

(tip o' the hat to Dead or Alive, from 1985)

her legal team's game plan: spin, rinse, repeat. and repeat. and ...
 
you spin me right round, baby
right round like a record, baby
right round round round

you spin me right round, baby
right round like a record, baby
right round round round

(tip o' the hat to Dead or Alive, from 1985)

her legal team's game plan: spin, rinse, repeat. and repeat. and ...

:floorlaugh:

Apparently this what passes for lawyering. A bit like Congress, but that is an observation for the Political Pavilion. ;)
 
In my opinion -- this bankruptcy judge favors Casey Anthony and has sympathy for her, and WANTS to rule in her favor every chance he gets, and is openly negative minded towards Zenaida and Kronk [and somewhat TexasEquuSearch].

The judge's ruling on Casey's request for more time based on the "family medical emergency" will be another example of which way this judge leans.
I expect him to rule in Casey's favor AGAIN and grant the extension of time, even though it is not warranted, and deny Zenaida's request for DEFAULT judgment.

It seems to me, that this judge is anxious to throw out Zenaida and Kronk's cases.
We will see if the judge stretches the LAW to say that Casey's OBVIOUS defamation of Zenaida and Kronk was "NOT" "willful and malicious", which is the criteria to keep the cases alive in State Court [not bankruptcy court].

In the judge’s RULINGS filed July 1, 2013, the judge says that he has jurisdiction and he can decide if Casey’s words against Zenaida and Kronk were “WILLFUL and MALICIOUS”.

This bankruptcy judge can “decide if Casey is ineligible to obtain a discharge or whether any claim is allowed against the estate, or whether any allowed claim is excepted from discharge.”

This bankruptcy judge would have to ”conduct a second round of litigation to determine whether the statements made by Casey, or on her behalf, was a “willful and malicious” injury under the Bankruptcy Code.”

This bankruptcy judge said: “If the Zenaida and Kronk claims are found to be dischargeable, a state court jury trial would be meaningless in this “apparent no-asset case”.” [it is only "apparent" to this judge, that Casey has "no assets" -- everyone else knows she is waiting to make millions]

Bankruptcy judge says he “needs to first determine the discharge issues, before any jury trial.”

Bankruptcy judge says “Zenaida and Kronk have not shown sufficient cause to justify a jury trial in state court BEFORE a determination of whether their claims are dischargeable.”

In this ruling, this bankruptcy judge is all too willing to accept everything Casey's attorneys say, and disbelieve what Zenaida and Kronk's attorneys say. When the judge read both sides -- he favors Casey's side.

Page 2 – The bankruptcy judge Incorrectly states in his Opinion, that Kronk “was defamed by in-court statements by debtor’s counsel during her murder trial”
[the judge disregarded Kronk's filed docs stating that the defamatory statements were made OUTSIDE of Court and on worldwide TV]

This Judge belittles Kronk's case and says that Kronk’s case was only in the beginning stages, and no progress has occurred in his case; a trial date never set; no discovery taken place; and Casey says she was not properly served [this judge ignores the FACT that Kronk filed documents stating that Casey was PROPERLY served via Secretary of State].

Page 2 – this bankruptcy judge belittles Zenaida's case and says Zenaida defamation case had moved through Discovery and Summary Judgment, with a single allegation of defamation remaining for trial, and trial was originally set for January 2, 2013, but Zenaida asked to postpone the trial, over Casey’s objections [not true - both sides agreed to postponement until after Casey's Appeal was completed], but no trial re-set date was made.

This bankruptcy judge is forcing TexasEquuSearch to PROVE how Casey Anthony benefitted from the money TES spent on searches for Caylee, even after TES has already spelled that out in their original Complaint.

7/1/2013
MEMORANDUM OPINION
DENYING MOTIONS FOR RELIEF FROM STAY AND
GRANTING MOTIONS TO EXTEND TIME TO CHALLENGE DISCHARGE

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B7DjeAMt_BpILUJodUhrbjBBU00/edit?pli=1

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http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/casey-anthonys-lawyers-fight-get-defamation-cases-/nX6sp/

Thursday, May 30, 2013

Casey Anthony’s lawyers fight to get defamation cases thrown out
“The only way the judge could keep the lawsuits alive is to find that the injury was not inadvertent, but that it was malicious,” said Sheaffer.

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http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/judge-delays-decision-in-casey-anthony-civil-suits/v3qWZ/

VIDEO

May 30, 2013
Judge delays decision in Casey Anthony civil suits
Late Thursday afternoon a federal judge in Tampa delayed making a decision in two civil cases against Casey Anthony.

VIDEO – Kathi Belich
Kathi to Zenaida attorney Shuker – Can you imagine a situation where someone would accuse someone of kidnapping and possibly murder and it not be with malice?
Shuker – I have no idea how it couldn’t be.


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http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/judge-delays-decision-casey-anthony-civil-suits/nX7K7/
ARTICLE
Thursday, May 30, 2013
Judge delays decision in Casey Anthony civil suits

Sheaffer said the survival of the lawsuits hinges on whether Anthony’s accusations against innocent people were malicious.

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http://www.🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬/815880/cas...defamation-suit-may-be-unwise-judge-suggests/
Posted: June 26, 2013
Casey Anthony Destitute, Defamation Suit May Be Unwise, Judge Suggests

However, overall, the judge seemed to feel that the defamation lawsuit could be a waste of time. The Orlando-Sentinel said that the judge openly “questioned the wisdom of spending time and effort on claims that may ultimately be discharged in bankruptcy.”

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http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/casey-anthony-attorneys-fight-defamation-lawsuits-/nYTRR/

Posted: 3:54 p.m. Tuesday, June 25, 2013
Casey Anthony defamation lawsuits won’t proceed in Orange County

The judge ruled Tuesday that Anthony’s two defamation suits will not proceed in Orange County. Rather, they will be decided in federal court in concert with her bankruptcy proceedings.
The judge said Anthony is “destitute,” with no income or assets, therefore she wouldn’t be able to pay if she was found guilty. [this judge totally ignores the legal fact that Zenaida, Kronk, and TES could potentially win a JUDGEMENT against Casey Anthony which could be enforced at a later date -- even if she claims to have no money now - like the Goldmans did with OJ]

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http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...tcy-defamation-suits-20130625,0,5673440.story

Casey Anthony wins small victory in judge’s ruling
By Amy Pavuk, Orlando Sentinel
4:02 p.m. EDT, June 25, 2013

During a brief hearing Tuesday, May said Anthony appears to be “destitute.”
If the claims are dischargeable, May said, why use the resources and go through several-week trials in state court.

May is giving Kronk and Gonzales 21 days to file their claims in his court.
If the claims proceed in bankruptcy court, a federal jury could ultimately hear the case.
 
Baez already tried that. He had to pay to have it published and sales have been dismal. I can't imagine who would want to read his lies...

Yes, but JMO he's a self absorbed buffoon and they were lies. I think someone, maybe CM knows the real truth. JMO
 

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