Belize - Francesca Matus, 52, & Drew De Voursney, 36, murdered, Corozal, 25 Apr 2017

[Dushi]

Because they were from another country and living there part of the year, I am guessing it would be assumed that they had a lot of money.
Would they carry a lot of money on them when they went out to a bar?

It certainly sounds like robbery but who knows how much money they were carrying
I can't imagine she would be silly enough to flash money in a bar.
She was familiar with the area, she would know to be cautious IMO

There are those who have no respect for life at all.
Kill you for a dollar

Such a terrible senseless crime

 

[dotr]

http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/investigation-underway-after-canadian-woman-found-dead-in-belize-1.3394664

Matus had been in Belize since December, said her cousin Ivana Pucci, enjoying life on her waterfront property. She used to spend winters in the central American country and return to the Toronto area for summer and fall to be with her mother and her two twin sons, aged 22, Pucci said.

"She loved it there and felt safe," Pucci said. "She did tell us it was lawless there, but she felt safe in her little community."

Her boys, brother and mother are grieving together in the Toronto area, Pucci said.

Matus grew up in Sault Ste. Marie as part a sprawling Italian-Canadian family, Pucci said. She moved to Toronto after college and became a mortgage broker, which she still did for half of the year. She loved the water and boating in Belize, she said.

"She was 52 in a 35-year-old body," Pucci said. "She really was such a beautiful person -- both inside and out -- and she did not deserve this," Pucci said. "Nobody does."

Drew DeVoursney was a big man with a big heart and a big smile, his mother said. The six-foot-six former marine had overcome post-traumatic stress disorder while serving two tours in Iraq, she said.

About four years ago, he bought a piece of property with Barfield in Belize -- with nothing on it -- and went down in December with the idea of starting his own dive company, his mother said.
"He's a real adventure boy, that's what I call him, my adventure boy because he's done so many different things," Char DeVoursney said.
DeVoursney went to college in North Carolina on a soccer and academic scholarship, but never finished

.

"He was supposed to come home next week and was signed to start school with his brother where he was going to learn to operate heavy machinery," she said.

"Now he's coming home in a way I've always dreaded."

 

[margarita25]

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[Ontario Mom]

Police confirm Canadian woman, American boyfriend killed in Belize were strangled

http://globalnews.ca/news/3420029/d.../?utm_source=@globalnewsto&utm_medium=Twitter

 

[SilkySifaka]

Oh no. How did he get the drop on them with a gun, tied them up then strangled them one by one


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[Dushi]

http://globalnews.ca/news/3420029/d.../?utm_source=@globalnewsto&utm_medium=Twitter

He was a big man, 6'6"
I am sure there was more than one person involved

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

It's so strange that their bodies were found, from what I understand, in a different sugar cane field that was quite a distance from the cane field the Isuzu was found in. If this was a case of a perp/perps robbing them for any cash they had on them, you'd think they'd have just killed them and left them with the vehicle -- but to take them elsewhere is odd and I wonder what the significance is? And strangling someone seems like such an odd choice, it almost seems "up close and personal"?....it would be so much easier to shoot or stab someone. Can't help but think that this wasn't random, that one or both of them were targeted for a reason, a personal reason.

 

[Snoopster]

[video=twitter;859479205821788160]https://twitter.com/trevorjdunn/status/859479205821788160[/video]

 

[Dushi]

Their hands were duct taped.
Someone had to have a way of subduing a very large man.
If there was no weapon, how did they do that?
If there was a weapon, why strangle them?
And what was the brown that one of the people saw on the vehicle?
Did one of them sustain injuries prior to strangulation?

 

[Snoopster]

It's so strange that their bodies were found, from what I understand, in a different sugar cane field that was quite a distance from the cane field the Isuzu was found in. If this was a case of a perp/perps robbing them for any cash they had on them, you'd think they'd have just killed them and left them with the vehicle -- but to take them elsewhere is odd and I wonder what the significance is? And strangling someone seems like such an odd choice, it almost seems "up close and personal"?....it would be so much easier to shoot or stab someone. Can't help but think that this wasn't random, that one or both of them were targeted for a reason, a personal reason.

I think they carjacked them, driving them out of town, where they killed them is a very isolated spot. They then drove the vehicle back toward town so that they could walk home or walk to their own vehicle.

 

[SilkySifaka]

As dushi said strangling is very personal. I wouldn't be surprised if it was someone they knew


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[Dushi]

As dushi said strangling is very personal. I wouldn't be surprised if it was someone they knew


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I didn't actually say that, lazeedayzee did, but I do agree with it

 

[italianangel2411]

I agree, from most of crimes strangulation is personal. I do think it was someone they knew.

 

[dotr]

Their hands were duct taped.
Someone had to have a way of subduing a very large man.
If there was no weapon, how did they do that?
If there was a weapon, why strangle them?
And what was the brown that one of the people saw on the vehicle?
Did one of them sustain injuries prior to strangulation?

One could imagine a criminal/perp type, walking around with a hidden knife or gun, but duct tape seems like something that involved pre -planning an attack, imo speculation.
The good thing about duct tape is that it is good for lifting finger prints.
http://www.leelofland.com/wordpress/fingerprint-collection-from-difficult-surfaces-and-afis/

Criminals who tie their victims up during the commission of a crime frequently use duct tape for the job. That duct tape is almost always full of prints that get embedded into the tape. It’s practically impossible to manipulate and tear the tape while wearing gloves (I tried this once and the gloves got so stuck to the tape that I threw the resulting mess away), so he leaves prints while unrolling and tearing the tape. Even if he has wiped the smooth surface of the tape clean to cover his identity, the sticky side can’t be wiped without taking away the sticky.

 

[LietKynes]

Joining this sad case for hopes of answers.
After the Natalie H. case and also the other lady that died in Aruba (suspected homicide); I'm worried that the local LE would try to downplay it; so as not to keep tourists away ?
Just thinking out loud and mean no offence.

Agreed that strangulation seems personal.
Was it some local(s) who felt belittled or disrespected ?

Or someone walking up to them asking for $$ or favors and were turned down by the victims ?

Not the victims' fault-- sometimes people are wiser to turn someone down, if they are coming across as untrustworthy.
Also getting the feeling that they were targeted at the last public place they were at -- the bar. Someone was watching them......

 

[LietKynes]

Photos of that countries' resorts/islands always look so much like paradise.
But the truth can be very different.

 

[Ontario Mom]

I shouldn't be surprised but I find it rather crude and distasteful reading so many comments on MSM sites that say such things as "oh this is terrible, it's going to really hurt tourism". I've seen those comments over and over again and I'm thinking "hello? Two people have been murdered, and your first thought is to worry about tourism??"

Ugh. Just... ugh.

 

[dotr]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-us-man-girlfriend-found-dead-belize/story?id=47153420

Police say they found their bodies in an "advanced state of decomposition," with what's believed to be DeVoursney's body on top of Matus' body. Both individuals had tape on their right wrists, but their wrists were not bound together.

Authorities have yet to release any information on possible suspects or motives in this incident.

[h=3]3 countries involved[/h] In addition to Belize, two other countries have been pulled into the mystery because of the nationalities of the deceased.

Global Affairs Canada, a department of the Canadian government, previously told ABC News that it was aware of reports of a missing Canadian citizen in Belize and that it was providing consular assistance to her family and was in contact with local authorities.

The U.S. State Department says it is closely monitoring the local investigation into DeVoursney's death.

 

[Frannie]

It seems that it was a robbery..... they had a lot of money.....

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...ry-turned-double-murder/ar-BBAE0ut?li=AAggNb9

 

[Frannie]

It seems they had a lot of money and its a robbery gone wrong

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world...ry-turned-double-murder/ar-BBAE0ut?li=AAggNb9