Bill Cosby charged w/aggravated Sexual Assault/other Rape Allegations *conviction vacated* *civil trial 2022 guilty* #6

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  • #881
CocoChanel said:
So, if I understand this correctly, BC was convicted in part on evidence he admitted to in depositions that were given when he was under the impression he would not be held liable for. So it was truthful what he said, he just did not expect he would be prosecuted for it based on the handshake of a former prosecutor. And while he has been in prison he has refused any treatment for what he had admitted to, or remorse. In effect, he acted as if he had not said those things. And now he is released not based on any truth, but on the technicality of an unwritten agreement that the things he admitted - the truth - would not be used to punish him. So how can he have it both ways. Either it wasn’t the truth when he said those things, so how can any agreement made at that time be binding. Or it was the truth, and he admitted being the sexual predator he was convicted for. This is maddening, and I feel so badly for his victims.
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From what I understand, the DA said he would not be charged so he could not plead the 5th amendment during the civil trial. At the tine the DA didn't feel that Crosby would be convicted at trial and the supposed victim would at least get sone justice.

So Cosby couldn't plead the 5th and years (decades?) later was convicted because of it. Thats not justice in America -sorry.
 
  • #882
Filly said:
Well he ain't got Qualudes to help "people". I must check and see when they pulled them.

His $70 worth of Zio pizza? Helped him. Very trite considering this horrendousness, but why Zio's? Plenty of great pizza up Elkins Park Way. I know I am sorry, but this is a THING. Guess they got it at Zio's South Philly. Very easy to spend $70 for pizza.

They got the real Tony's up that way. Tomato Pie. Glad he ain't at beginning with "T" Port Richmond. Thanking Blessed Mother he prolly don't know begins with "S". Same name as street on Girard. The $25 pie I'd pay $50 for.

Again not at all minimizing the pain, suffering, humiliation, fear, confusion, shame these drugged women endured. Unfortunately I get it. It's pi**ing me off passing the TV looking at a predator eating pizza.
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He can’t exactly give marriage tips either considering his wife didn’t visit him in prison at all.

Today he was in contact with comedy show network sources. No remorse whatsoever!
 
  • #883
cocomod said:
I have a jaded view of this case. I am old - let's just get that out of the way now. I remember back in the 70's and 80's. I remember what Hollywood was known for. I remember it being said that if you wanted to "get in the business" or be "successful in the business", you had to "sleep your way to the top". I remember that being the case even in corporations. Is it right?? Absolutely not! I am so glad we have moved out of the dark ages and women's rights are much better!!

However, most of the women back in those days "chose" to sleep their way in. Hollywood was a drug that many women craved! He admitted to giving women drugs. I know that was also a very Hollywood thing to do. Did he rape them? I am not sure if it was always rape or consensual based on what the culture was like back then. "I will sleep with you so that you will help my career even though I find you repugnant." I find it extremely hard because these allegations are decades old - some women I believe, some I choose to believe jumped on the band wagon for notoriety.

He spent 2 years in prison. I feel like his reputation and his life has been changed. There were no recent allegations. He is an old man who will go home and like OJ Simpson he will live a much different life. Even though MJ was acquitted, his life was much, much different afterwards. I believe Cosby will never have the opportunity to rape someone again - which is great!
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Whoa, and @cocomod I'm old too. May I add I've always respected your opinions.

Heck yeah women on Broadway did the same. Plus this went back wayyyyyy before the 70's to 80's. That casting couch crap was before talkies. So? Ya wanna eat or sleep on the street? I'll give ya a part. Great I don't have to go back to Bumbfrea**n Egyot in shame. Yeah that's consenting.

Ya do what ya gotta do.

My confusion is in as you say your jaded. These things happened. Yet at the end you contend he can never rape anyone else.

Rape. Call it what it Flippin is.

He*l them days I was stupid sleeping with guys cause I guess I wanted to. That was consent. Disco Biscuit consent. If they somehow gave me ludes without knowing? Not consent. RAPE. Plus no part in "Chorus Line".

He knowingly drugged women to assault them. Rape. Let's pray you are right he won't rape anyone else..............

Again I respect your opinion but Hellah no wasn't anybody sleeping to the top.
 
  • #884
Luna20 said:
He can’t exactly give marriage tips either considering his wife didn’t visit him in prison at all.

Today he was in contact with comedy show network sources. No remorse whatsoever!
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IMO a certain person knew what was going on with all these date rapes but turned a blind eye. Smiled & pretended this predator was a good guy - for a guaranteed continued elite life style. Stood up for him pre-trial & during trial.It was all business$....Thus the no visit or public hug last few days.
Yeah,it’s hurl worthy that BC is giving anyone advise!
Just proves he has a bottomless ego, zero empathy & needs money with the getting back on stage. I imagine the certain person & his lawyers absorbed all ,if not most, of his asset$s.


MOO
 
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LinasK said:
I fail to see why an oral agreement made by a previous (possibly crooked) D.A. needs to be honored by his successor.
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Because in any instance, an oral agreement is binding - especially one made by an attorney. An oral agreement will stand up in court as a contract.
 
  • #887
Filly said:
Whoa, and @cocomod I'm old too. May I add I've always respected your opinions.

Heck yeah women on Broadway did the same. Plus this went back wayyyyyy before the 70's to 80's. That casting couch crap was before talkies. So? Ya wanna eat or sleep on the street? I'll give ya a part. Great I don't have to go back to Bumbfrea**n Egyot in shame. Yeah that's consenting.

Ya do what ya gotta do.

My confusion is in as you say your jaded. These things happened. Yet at the end you contend he can never rape anyone else.

Rape. Call it what it Flippin is.

He*l them days I was stupid sleeping with guys cause I guess I wanted to. That was consent. Disco Biscuit consent. If they somehow gave me ludes without knowing? Not consent. RAPE. Plus no part in "Chorus Line".

He knowingly drugged women to assault them. Rape. Let's pray you are right he won't rape anyone else..............

Again I respect your opinion but Hellah no wasn't anybody sleeping to the top.
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I totally respect you as well. Truth be told, I guess I didn't follow as closely because I think he is a creepy old man. I seriously didn't listen to all of the whole reports. I listened to a few interviews and didn't completely understand that he drugged them. My understanding was that he provided drugs/alcohol. The interviews from a couple of the women talked about going to him to help them in the acting field; and even after being raped, went back to him again.

I too hope he doesn't rape again - and I still think with his damaged reputation and the whole world watching - he won't have the chance to rape again.
 
  • #888
“ Won’t have the chance to rape again “ ....wow.
This is indeed the presented problem.

MOO
 
  • #889
BeachSky said:
IMO a certain person knew what was going on with all these date rapes but turned a blind eye. Smiled & pretended this predator was a good guy - for a guaranteed continued elite life style. Stood up for him pre-trial & during trial.It was all business$....Thus the no visit or public hug last few days.
Yeah,it’s hurl worthy that BC is giving anyone advise!
Just proves he has a bottomless ego, zero empathy & needs money with the getting back on stage. I imagine the certain person & his lawyers absorbed all ,if not most, of his asset$s.


MOO
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Honestly I believe it was also known for many years by certain circles in Philly. Comedians, perhaps police, Temple Owl people. I never heard it, but after Hannibal Buress told that joke a journalist taped it. Think maybe wrote about? In jest even. Blogged whatever. Then it hit the fan.

His early "comedy" albums were pretty foul. Then he went all Hollywood in that Detective show. So in Philly he was the ****. Gave back etc. his name, his money.

Definitely understand you are talking about the present and the law and certain people. Just wanted to add no way important people and others knew a long time ago. Sadly.
 
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  • #891
mickey2942 said:
Applause. #metoo.

Phylicia Rashad is hardly impartial. She wants the residual cash to flow back in...many lineups cut "The Cosby Show", due to BC being incarcerated for rape.
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Yes and I don’t recall the other actor or 2 that spoke up for him during the trial. Most likely for the same reason…cash. His wife is doing the same.
 
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  • #894
Quiet Time said:
This silly woman...how would she feel if it were her daughter BC drugged and raped??
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Great point! Easy for anyone to say that isn’t a victim of it.
 
  • #895
Yet another example of why treating women as a collective and, indeed, collectivism itself, is cr-p.
 
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  • #897
Opinion | The heartbreaking, complicated rage of Bill Cosby's release

This is an "opinion", but it seems significant to me, that it was published by MSNBC. And, it definitely resonates that while BC was released, it definitely wasn't because of being innocent of the crime he was convicted of, drugging and raping his victim.

Hopefully, BC will continue to be treated as a pariah, a man who used his position of power, to prey on women. He should be in a cell with Harvey Weinstein.
 
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  • #899
mickey2942 said:
Opinion | The heartbreaking, complicated rage of Bill Cosby's release

This is an "opinion", but it seems significant to me, that it was published by MSNBC. And, it definitely resonates that while BC was released, it definitely wasn't because of being innocent of the crime he was convicted of, drugging and raping his victim.

Hopefully, BC will continue to be treated as a pariah, a man who used his position of power, to prey on women. He should be in a cell with Harvey Weinstein.
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Bill Cosby's responds to rumors Phylicia Rashad fired from her role as dean at Howard University | Daily Mail Online

The Arrogance. This technicality has opened the door for him to think he is invincible. Feeding a monster.
 
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