Billie Dunn may sue Body Language Individual

[Flossie JMO]

Oh ya, he was just making stuff up. That is what drawing a wild conclusion from someone else's speculation is called. The simple fact is that there is nothing to even remotely support that. I don't put much stock in the grandmother because she didn't tell her son about the suspicions at the time, which means that her suspicions were formed after HD was gone, in other words whatever happened was regarded as pretty minor at the time. You also need to keep in mind that it is clear that she never cared SA and regarded him as an interloper, and that is going to greatly color her "speculations".

SA was asked who the police should be looking at, and he said the family. That would not have been meant as a confession, but rather that he thought that that was where LE look first. Remember, this was a guy who was interested in true crime stories (along with BD), so of course he would think that in such a case you allways look at the family first, especially if he took the question as asking his opinion on how to conduct an investigation. His initial behaviour is consistent with him believing that she was off with some family member, probably on the other side of the family. If he was "confessing" as you seem to be suggesting, why would he suddenly stop? That doesn't make sense. It seems more probable that he was telling LE how they should be conducting their investigation and then suddenly realized that they were focussing on him and seeing his opinion as the start of a confession, which it was not. And it would appear that LE have never moved past that.

There is also an undercurrent of drug issues with many of the characters in this story. In my opinion much of the "deceptiveness" observed in the polygraphs possibly had more to do with a reluctance to talk about activities associated with that side of their lives with LE than because of some guilt associated with HD. And then when they do talk, LE doesn't believe them because of the initial mistrust.

bbm, ITA, and there's a recurring theme with his "opinions" imo

 

[Levi]

Oh ya, he was just making stuff up. That is what drawing a wild conclusion from someone else's speculation is called. The simple fact is that there is nothing to even remotely support that. I don't put much stock in the grandmother because she didn't tell her son about the suspicions at the time, which means that her suspicions were formed after HD was gone, in other words whatever happened was regarded as pretty minor at the time. You also need to keep in mind that it is clear that she never cared SA and regarded him as an interloper, and that is going to greatly color her "speculations".

SA was asked who the police should be looking at, and he said the family. That would not have been meant as a confession, but rather that he thought that that was where LE look first. Remember, this was a guy who was interested in true crime stories (along with BD), so of course he would think that in such a case you allways look at the family first, especially if he took the question as asking his opinion on how to conduct an investigation. His initial behaviour is consistent with him believing that she was off with some family member, probably on the other side of the family. If he was "confessing" as you seem to be suggesting, why would he suddenly stop? That doesn't make sense. It seems more probable that he was telling LE how they should be conducting their investigation and then suddenly realized that they were focussing on him and seeing his opinion as the start of a confession, which it was not. And it would appear that LE have never moved past that.

There is also an undercurrent of drug issues with many of the characters in this story. In my opinion much of the "deceptiveness" observed in the polygraphs possibly had more to do with a reluctance to talk about activities associated with that side of their lives with LE than because of some guilt associated with HD. And then when they do talk, LE doesn't believe them because of the initial mistrust.

When we have a guy like Shawn Adkins who watches child , it doesn't take a rocket scientist to draw a logical conclusion that Hailey Dunn fell victim to a sex assault, at the hands of Shawn Adkins....

 

[Levi]

bbm, ITA, and there's a recurring theme with his "opinions" imo

This is America and everyone has a right to voice their opinions here... Free speech is the bedrock of the U.S. constitution.

 

[yllek]

When we have a guy like Shawn Adkins who watches child , it doesn't take a rocket scientist to draw a logical conclusion that Hailey Dunn fell victim to a sex assault, at the hands of Shawn Adkins....

Imo, based on all known facts of the case, Shawn Adkins is rightfully suspected in the disappearance of Hailey. I'm not yet convinced as to what actually took place though. I think one or more other people could have also been involved and not yet sure yet which one(s) actually inflicted the physical assault. Imo, still a lot of possibilities as to what took place when you look at the adults and activities that Billie brought into Hailey's life. I keep hoping Hailey's case will be solved and she will be found soon. I'm glad Ron and Misty are locked up, but still hurts to think of Haileigh C out there unaccounted for with no direct justice so far...

All just my opinions...

 

[SailorMoon]

HOW ABOUT GETTING OFF YOUR REAR AND DOING SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE BILLIE INSTEAD OF LOOKING FOR A HAND OUT??? My suggestion anyway.

 

[Aedrys]

Good Lord...someone should give BD the Anthony's number. Talk about a bunch of sue happy people right now! Unbelievable!

 

[Tugela]

When we have a guy like Shawn Adkins who watches child , it doesn't take a rocket scientist to draw a logical conclusion that Hailey Dunn fell victim to a sex assault, at the hands of Shawn Adkins....

How do you know SA watches CP? As far as we know none has been directly linked to him, if it was he would be in jail by now.

The he did have apparently wasn't CP. If it was they would have said so in the search warrant affidavit and they made no mention of that. Forget about what some reporter claimed the sheriff supposedly said, what is in the affidavit is the accurate information since that is a sworn document of facts (such as they are believed to be true by the guy WHO ACTUALLY EXAMINED THE IMAGES) presented to the courts.

There was a "maybe" image (ie a youngish looking teen on unknown age) associated an e-mail posting but that was about it. The known CP was on someone else's computer in another town. Everyone who lived there or was associated with it denied any knowledge of the found on that computer (surprise surprise!), which means that whoever downloaded it did so when no one else was around (such as during the day when everyone was working or during the night when everyone was asleep). Since SA didn't live there (therefore couldn't have been downloading when everyone was asleep) and worked during the day like everyone else, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the logical conclusion is that it is far more likely to be someone who lived in the house who did it, and not SA.

Much more than that we don't know. The GMs house was searched as per the search warrant, but we have not heard the outcome of that other than evidence gathered is "still being studied". Since SA hasn't been arrested as a result of that search, it is reasonable to presume that either they didn't find anything incriminating, or if they did they couldn't link it to anyone in particular just like before.

The problem is that you WANT it to be him. I think that is true of many other people who follow the case or are involved, consequently I suspect that everyone is not looking in the right direction as a result, and because of that I think the case will not be solved any time soon.

If it is him and if he did that then so be it, but pony up real facts not wild speculation and wishfull thinking.

 

[noseyone]

How do you know SA watches CP? As far as we know none has been directly linked to him, if it was he would be in jail by now.

The he did have apparently wasn't CP. If it was they would have said so in the search warrant affidavit and they made no mention of that. Forget about what some reporter claimed the sheriff supposedly said, what is in the affidavit is the accurate information since that is a sworn document of facts (such as they are believed to be true by the guy WHO ACTUALLY EXAMINED THE IMAGES) presented to the courts.

There was a "maybe" image (ie a youngish looking teen on unknown age) associated an e-mail posting but that was about it. The known CP was on someone else's computer in another town. Everyone who lived there or was associated with it denied any knowledge of the found on that computer (surprise surprise!), which means that whoever downloaded it did so when no one else was around (such as during the day when everyone was working or during the night when everyone was asleep). Since SA didn't live there (therefore couldn't have been downloading when everyone was asleep) and worked during the day like everyone else, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the logical conclusion is that it is far more likely to be someone who lived in the house who did it, and not SA.

Much more than that we don't know. The GMs house was searched as per the search warrant, but we have not heard the outcome of that other than evidence gathered is "still being studied". Since SA hasn't been arrested as a result of that search, it is reasonable to presume that either they didn't find anything incriminating, or if they did they couldn't link it to anyone in particular just like before.

[The problem is that you WANT it to be him. I think that is true of many other people who follow the case or are involved, consequently I suspect that everyone is not looking in the right direction as a result, and because of that I think the case will not be solved any time soon.

If it is him and if he did that then so be it, but pony up real facts not wild speculation and wishfull thinking.

[/B]

I don't think anyone WANTS it to be S.A. or B.D.
It's a FACT that S.A. has lied, indicated that he and B.D. should be looked at in the dissaperance of H.D. He is the ONLY person named a SUSPECT so far, even if he has not been arrested YET, it does not mean that he won't be.
I do not believe that these are wild speculations or wishful thinking! These so called " wild speculations" were based on the FACTS we have all been given so far by L.E., not some REPORTER. Here is just one link to one of the affidavits I have read. http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf
It does state that child was found. They stated that they have found on every electronic device that belonged to S.A.., so it's logical to assume he is the one looking at on his Mom's and Grandmother's computers. With the given information, it is more of a speculation to say it was someone other than S.A. that was looking at the , than S.A. himself. I may not be a rocket scientist, but I don't think you need to be, or that Levi was making wild accusations. I may not totally agree with him, but he has stated his opinion based on facts. JMO

 

[TxLady2]

Free speech has its limits. I don't think it gives anyone the right to say anything they want to while barely hinting that it is an opinion, especially when it is put on a website that is highly public. OTOH, I don't think they will get anywhere trying to sue him for libel or slander, but I wouldn't cry many tears if they were successful.
I don't know how anyone could put much stock in the stuff that Peter H. writes, considering that he is purporting to be an expert in statement analysis while he makes many spelling and grammar mistakes himself. It's interesting in a way, but I get bored pretty easily with his assumptions that someone must be guilty because they said so-and-so, or said it "this way" when it should have been said "that way." What kind of idiot would base an "expert opinion" on something that shallow?? I've read his analysis on a few other cases, and IMO, he is not very accurate on those, either.

 

[clarabelle]

[/B]

I don't think anyone WANTS it to be S.A. or B.D.
It's a FACT that S.A. has lied, indicated that he and B.D. should be looked at in the dissaperance of H.D. He is the ONLY person named a SUSPECT so far, even if he has not been arrested YET, it does not mean that he won't be.
I do not believe that these are wild speculations or wishful thinking! These so called " wild speculations" were based on the FACTS we have all been given so far by L.E., not some REPORTER. Here is just one link to one of the affidavits I have read. http://www.ktxs.com/download/2011/0322/27283525.pdf
It does state that child was found. They stated that they have found on every electronic device that belonged to S.A.., so it's logical to assume he is the one looking at on his Mom's and Grandmother's computers. With the given information, it is more of a speculation to say it was someone other than S.A. that was looking at the , than S.A. himself. I may not be a rocket scientist, but I don't think you need to be, or that Levi was making wild accusations. I may not totally agree with him, but he has stated his opinion based on facts. JMO

I am not defending SA but the affidavit you linked to is to obtain a search warrant and they are requesting the warrant based on the "probability" of finding more child . The affidavit states that they have "found pornographic images on every electronic device that we have been able to search that SA had access to and child on two computers SA had access..."

The reference to the child is linked to SA's email account and is described as "an image of what appears to me to be a child pornographic image."

"Adult" is not illegal and (unfortunately) neither is bestiality in many states. "Deviant sexual behavior" which I believe is described in Texas law as oral sex and/or insertion of an object would likely get many of us arrested.

My point is that so far they have not been able to directly link SA to illegal as others had access to the computers also. At best he can be one of several people viewing/collecting on the computers that had been searched but there is nothing saying this only involves SA. The pix/ on SA's cell phone/memory stick (a direct link to him) is not described as anything illegal.

IMO if they had anything to arrest SA and BD on regarding the they would have. But based on the facts I am aware of PHs comments are pure speculation and opinion.

 

[Donjeta]

So, you can watch child all you like as long as you make sure it's on shared computers?

Is there anything going on as in a real lawsuit instead of just talking about possibly filing one, maybe, one day?

I am kinda hoping for one because interesting things might come out in court proceedings. Nosy me.

 

[sreshowtime]

Anyone ever find out if anything came of this supposed 'threat' to sue??

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

Regarding damage to her reputation, I wonder if they really thought this through. The threat to sue may influence people's thoughts differently.

They may think,
A) Gosh, there's a man who says horrible things about Billie Jean Dunn. Billie Jean says he is lying and she's gonna sue. So what the man said must never have happened. I'm gonna tell all my friends I think BJD is innocent of any wrongdoing.
*saves her reputation*

B) Gosh, there's a man who says horrible things about BJD. I've never heard of him before.
*googles his blog*.
*reads his blog*
Oh wow, some of it totally makes sense. I'm gonna tell all my friends what this man said about BJD and see what they think.
*goes on to make sure that more people hear about the opinions that BJD objects to*
*ruins her reputation some more*

Good points...I have said this before when BD had threatened to sue someone in the begining of this. In order for BD's reputation to have been damaged, BD would have had to had a "Good" reputation to begin with but as it is/was, BD was living with another man while still married to her first husband. BD was using the resources at her one place of employment to print countless items of reading material. BD also removed medical supplies from that place of employment that subsequently were used to scar wording on her son's back. BD had a second job....??? Child , according to LE was found in the room that she and her Boyfriend shared. So with all of this and there is probably more, how in the world can BD accuse someone of damaging her reputation? JMO but I think she damaged her OWN reputation by the life she was leading.