Bob Saget dead at 65 -- hours after performing live

[MimosaMornings]

I’d be curious if the occupant(s) in the room below heard anything.
I can usually hear someone drop something clearly in most hotel rooms during the night - especially in a tile bathroom.
JMO

 

[Quiet Time]

If by chance Saget passed out in the marble/tile bathroom and fell backward, he would have made no attempt to break his fall. He was tall (6'4") so would have landed hard. Its possible (purely conjecturing) that if he passed out, he could have hit his head on, say the edge of the marble tub, the impact flipped him and he then landed face down on the floor. This could explain both the occipital and frontal fractures.

I was kind of thinking a long the same lines as you.
Only I was going to use the word 'bounced'.

Could he have fallen, and then bounced up and came down hard again on the tub or sink area?

I like your idea too.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

If by chance Saget passed out in the marble/tile bathroom and fell backward, he would have made no attempt to break his fall. He was tall (6'4") so would have landed hard. Its possible (purely conjecturing) that if he passed out, he could have hit his head on, say the edge of the marble tub, the impact flipped him and he then landed face down on the floor. This could explain both the occipital and frontal fractures.

There was only one point of impact and that was the back of the head. The frontal injuries were not due to direct injury.

 

[no nonsense]

There are fractures around the eyes in addition to the bleed.

 

[Seattle1]

If by chance Saget passed out in the marble/tile bathroom and fell backward, he would have made no attempt to break his fall. He was tall (6'4") so would have landed hard. Its possible (purely conjecturing) that if he passed out, he could have hit his head on, say the edge of the marble tub, the impact flipped him and he then landed face down on the floor. This could explain both the occipital and frontal fractures.

I was kind of thinking a long the same lines as you.
Only I was going to use the word 'bounced'.

Could he have fallen, and then bounced up and came down hard again on the tub or sink area?

I like your idea too.

There are fractures around the eyes in addition to the bleed.

Dr. Baden on Brian Laundrie, Bob Saget autopsy reports
Feb. 15, 2022 - 4:19 - Forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden discusses newly released autopsy report details of Bob Saget ..

Dr. Baden on Brian Laundrie, Bob Saget autopsy reports

The orbital bones are the thinnest bones in the entire body. Baden agrees with ME, offers why in a medical opinion in short video.

Forensic pathologist Dr. Baden has a clear explanation about the frontal / orbital fractures in just a few sentences in the video linked above. As
@BeginnerSleuther states above, these fractures were not likely by direct injury.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

There are fractures around the eyes in addition to the bleed.

This has been discussed throughout the thread. I would go to the video @Seattle1 posted.

 

[no nonsense]

Orbital bones are fragile but don't typically break from a bleed. or even from a contracoup injury.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Orbital bones are fragile but don't typically break from a bleed. or even from a contracoup injury.

Experts disagree. This type of injury is possible and is in the medical literature. You can read the thread for further links as it was talked about quite a bit already. If you're an expert in this type of stuff, you can become a verified professional as well.

 

[no nonsense]

LOL its in my wheelhouse too

 

[no nonsense]

He could have hit the back of his head and then landed on the side of his head (he had temporal fractures too) and that could have contributed to the orbital fractures.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

LOL its in my wheelhouse too

You should consider becoming verified.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

He could have hit the back of his head and then landed on the side of his head (he had temporal fractures too) and that could have contributed to the orbital fractures.

I believe the autopsy reports only one point of impact. If he'd hit the side or front of his head, that would have been noted.

 

[no nonsense]

OK reread p 1 of autopsy-- basilar skull fx involving rt occipital and temporal bone and comminuted fxs of both orbits involving bilateral frontal bone.

 

[GeorgiaRai]

It's hard for me to imagine that, if all of this damage occurs in the bathroom, he could move to the other room and put himself neatly to bed. (Though the headboard theory is even less believable, IMO.)

<modsnip: Not victim friendly>

 

[no nonsense]

Thanks, but no desire to become verified. Not here enough for that @BeginnerSleuther

 

[no nonsense]

Just chatted with a colleague in the same profession as I who happens to live in Jax, Fl. We talked about the mechanism if injury and the autopsy report. Their thought is that he probably slipped on something in the bathroom (mat? wet floor? wearing slick socks? who knows) which would have caused the initial impact to be so severe, as he would go down hard. Depending on where he was when he fell (near the tub? sink? ??) maybe hit something on the way down or had the rotated fall as was postulated above) or maybe he tried to get up and fell again, hitting his forehead. The comminuted fractures (plural) of the orbits in the frontal region makes it sound like he hit his forehead on something as well.

 

[Seattle1]

Orbital bones are fragile but don't typically break from a bleed. or even from a contracoup injury.

At about 1:13 minute mark, Dr Baden opines it is typical of contra coup. I'm hoping it true that BS was able to get himself in bed meaning he had little pain and suffering.

 

[IceIce9]

I was kind of thinking a long the same lines as you.
Only I was going to use the word 'bounced'.

Could he have fallen, and then bounced up and came down hard again on the tub or sink area?

I like your idea too.

Makes sense. But how did he get back to bed to lie peacefully with one arm over his chest?

 

[IceIce9]

Experts disagree. This type of injury is possible and is in the medical literature. You can read the thread for further links as it was talked about quite a bit already. If you're an expert in this type of stuff, you can become a verified professional as well.

Experts are disagreeing about this on various MSM websites. All are experts in their fields but their opinions differ.

 

[no nonsense]

Contrecoup explains the brain tissue damage. IMO it doesn't really explain the frontal bone fx. As has been explained, the brain is the consistency of jello, and the white matter fibers will get stretched and bruised opposite the side of the blow. And the severity of the blow will likely cause the bleed. But while yes the eye sockets are fragile, the fact that both orbits/the frontal bone were fractured doesn't in my professional opinion fit with "just" a contrecoup explanation.