Bob Saget dead at 65 -- hours after performing live

[TGIRecovered]

See the purple area- Occipital - posterior inferior skull ( the rear lower area)

 

[Gardenista]

Florida Court Initially Sides with Bob Saget's Family in Lawsuit to Prevent Authorities from Turning Investigation Records Over to Media

 

[Jealoushe]

Hey everyone,

A couple of posts have been removed. Please don't speculate on things that could be embarrassing to the family when there is nothing in MSM to warrant such specific speculation.

Thanks.

Apologies, I thought it was ok to speculate if it was stated as such. My bad!

 

[Mica]

Bob Saget's Fatal Injury May Be Headboard-Related, Cops Certain No Foul Play

Feb 16, 2022
[..]

Our sources say the authorities say it's most likely Bob struck a portion of the bed's headboard that is not padded. We're told it's wood, and the best guess is he hit his head. Since he was under the covers, they believe he quickly lost consciousness. What's interesting ... although authorities on the scene felt the headboard scenario was the most likely, the Medical Examiner never mentioned it.

Rather, the M.E. theorizes it was an "unwitnessed fall backwards."

We're told the authorities who discovered Bob's body did not see a bruise on his head. We're told the bruise was only discovered during the autopsy.

Saget's family has filed a lawsuit in Orange County, Florida to block the release of photos from the hotel room -- because under Florida law police could go public with the images.

IMO, the majority of headboards at the hotel look fully padded. The exception is in the Residential Suites. Two beds have headboards that appear padded and framed in thin wood. They look attached to the wall.

Luxury Hotels & Resorts | The Ritz-Carlton

 

[mcgreuder]

I’ve done some webleuthing and looked at pictures of the bed at the Orlando Ritz Carlton, Grande Lakes, and they have a tall padded headboard. I see no way someone could have a severe head fracture from that tall padded headboard.

 

[LietKynes]

I’ve done some webleuthing and looked at pictures of the bed at the Orlando Ritz Carlton, Grande Lakes, and they have a tall padded headboard. I see no way someone could have a severe head fracture from that tall padded headboard.

Agreed.

Candace Cameron Bure wants answers on Bob Saget's death after family's privacy suit over head injury | Daily Mail Online

The wounds Bob sustained were much more than bumping his head on a fully padded headboard.
A fall of 20-30 feet or a baseball bat to the head indicate crushing fractures.
This case is far from over, and the questions are not going away, because they cannot -- considering the evidence.
Imo.

 

[happyday]

Agreed.

Candace Cameron Bure wants answers on Bob Saget's death after family's privacy suit over head injury | Daily Mail Online

The wounds Bob sustained were much more than bumping his head on a fully padded headboard.
A fall of 20-30 feet or a baseball bat to the head indicate crushing fractures.
This case is far from over, and the questions are not going away, because they cannot -- considering the evidence.
Imo.

I definitely don’t think it’s going away either. People really liked him, and they’re going to press for answers.

 

[Seattle1]

If there was no foul play, does the public have a right to know the details?

In most locales, when foul play is suspected, reports are actually exempt from release where LE states they are withholding the information "to protect the integrity of the ongoing investigation."

In this case, I think it's Florida's open record laws that allow disclosure whereas many states would not release such information to protect the privacy of the decedent and his family.

 

[Seattle1]

Feb 16, 2022

Judge Vincent S. Chu agreed with Saget’s family during this preliminary phase of the proceedings, writing the following in a three-page order granting a temporary injunction:

Specifically, the Court finds that Plaintiffs will suffer irreparable harm in the form of severe mental pain, anguish, and emotional distress if the requested temporary injunction is not granted, that Plaintiffs have a clear legal right or interest in the Protected Records as the surviving spouse and children of Mr. Saget, that Plaintiffs have no adequate remedy at law should the Protected Records be released, and that the public interest is served by the entry of a temporary injunction to allow the Court adequate opportunity to weigh Plaintiffs’ legitimate privacy interest against the public’s claim for disclosure.

Florida Court Initially Sides with Bob Saget's Family in Lawsuit to Prevent Authorities from Turning Investigation Records Over to Media

 

[Seattle1]

2/16/22 Judge blocks release of additional records in Bob Saget death investigation - CNN

 

[WillenFan21]

This TMZ article has more info on it. I think it was already posted but I wanted to highlight this part:

"We're told the injury to his head was severe enough that they're sure he could not have made the 2-hour drive from Jacksonville to the Ritz-Carlton in Orlando.

But, here's the mystery ... some medical experts say the skull fracture is consistent with being hit by a bat, or falling as far as 30 feet. Obviously, that kind of fall didn't happen, but as for Bob being struck -- we're told the electronic front door lock to his hotel room shows no one else entered the room. Once Bob entered, the next time the door opened was when hotel staff found him in the afternoon."

Bob Saget's Fatal Injury May Be Headboard-Related, Cops Certain No Foul Play

 

[Seattle1]

Dr. Baden on Brian Laundrie, Bob Saget autopsy reports
Feb. 15, 2022 - 4:19 - Forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden discusses newly released autopsy report details of Bob Saget ..

Dr. Baden on Brian Laundrie, Bob Saget autopsy reports

The orbital bones are the thinnest bones in the entire body. Baden agrees with ME, offers why in a medical opinion in short video.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

Dr. Baden on Brian Laundrie, Bob Saget autopsy reports
Feb. 15, 2022 - 4:19 - Forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden discusses newly released autopsy report details of Bob Saget ..

Dr. Baden on Brian Laundrie, Bob Saget autopsy reports

The orbital bones are the thinnest bones in the entire body. Baden agrees with ME, offers why in a medical opinion in short video.

This is consistent with what other pathologists have said. He also mentions the heart disease that we discussed pages ago. It will be interesting to see if the headboard theory was just the police theory or if there's anything to back it up.

 

[tamsidea]

I am confused about why I've read in several cases where adults have been charged with child abuse and murder because Doctors or ME's state that the head injury the deceased suffered could not be caused by a fall and/or that a fall from a standing position, or even from the back of a couch say, very rarely can cause enough head trauma to lead to death- yet in this scenario they are saying that hitting his head on a headboard could. For our medical experts - what is different about these 2 types of accidents?

 

[Seattle1]

This is consistent with what other pathologists have said. He also mentions the heart disease that we discussed pages ago. It will be interesting to see if the headboard theory was just the police theory or if there's anything to back it up.

Seems authorities believe he could have hit on the wooden portion of the headboard that was not padded. Based on his Rx, I also don't think seizure can be ruled out, causing him to hit the solid portion.

Our sources say the authorities say it's most likely Bob struck a portion of the bed's headboard that is not padded. We're told it's wood, and the best guess is he hit his head. Since he was under the covers, they believe he quickly lost consciousness.

Bob Saget's Fatal Injury May Be Headboard-Related, Cops Certain No Foul Play

 

[happyday]

Seems authorities believe he could have hit on the wooden portion of the headboard that was not padded. Based on his Rx, I also don't think seizure can be ruled out, causing him to hit the solid portion.

Our sources say the authorities say it's most likely Bob struck a portion of the bed's headboard that is not padded. We're told it's wood, and the best guess is he hit his head. Since he was under the covers, they believe he quickly lost consciousness.

Bob Saget's Fatal Injury May Be Headboard-Related, Cops Certain No Foul Play

I’ve wondered about a seizure all along. They can be so violent.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

I am confused about why I've read in several cases where adults have been charged with child abuse and murder because Doctors or ME's state that the head injury the deceased suffered could not be caused by a fall and/or that a fall from a standing position, or even from the back of a couch say, very rarely can cause enough head trauma to lead to death- yet in this scenario they are saying that hitting his head on a headboard could. For our medical experts - what is different about these 2 types of accidents?

There have definitely been cases where the ME has gotten wrong (proven by second autopsy) or there are certain injuries children have (often rare) that result in injuries that appear to be caused by child abuse, but are actually the result of everyday activities. Those are sad cases. Without seeing a specific example, I can't really comment on it, but basically these types of brain injuries are not common. Most of the time, if you hit your head, you'll be fine, but you can't always count on that. ANY fall in which there is a head strike has the potential to be catastrophic. Natasha Richardson (different type of head injury), really didn't hit her head hard. She didn't lose consciousness, she just banged her head. But she banged it in just the right spot where the consequences were fatal. This was because where she hit it, there are blood vessels and so she had a brain bleed inside the skull but outside her brain. There's very little room there so the increased pressure compresses the brain which eventually will lead to death.

There is also a certain injury pattern that we see in things like shaken baby syndrome. It isn't just the brain injury by itself, but the other things that accompany it that suggest trauma from shaking. A shaken baby will often have a retinal hemorrhage (bleeding in the vessels of the eye). When you see a baby with this type of brain injury and retinal hemorrhage, it suggests an injury in which the brain was thrust back and forth so you think of shaken baby. It doesn't mean it's definitive, but that's the injury pattern that's consistent.

In Bob Saget's case, for a fall to cause this kind of damage, everything had to happened just right. I think a few posters said a few pages ago that for BS to have this level of injury, it had to have been a serious impact (whatever the cause) and it had to have hit at exactly the place to cause all the other injuries.

 

[Mica]

Seems authorities believe he could have hit on the wooden portion of the headboard that was not padded. Based on his Rx, I also don't think seizure can be ruled out, causing him to hit the solid portion.

Our sources say the authorities say it's most likely Bob struck a portion of the bed's headboard that is not padded. We're told it's wood, and the best guess is he hit his head. Since he was under the covers, they believe he quickly lost consciousness.

Bob Saget's Fatal Injury May Be Headboard-Related, Cops Certain No Foul Play

Here are some photos of the different headboards in the hotel rooms/suites that appear to contain wood. I don’t see how he could have such head damage from any of these headboards. IMO

Luxury Hotels & Resorts | The Ritz-Carlton

 

[gngr~snap]

I just do not understand this. Releasing info will cause then

Bob Saget's family files lawsuit to block release of death investigation records (nbcnews.com)
Will cause them extreme what?!
OK.
I've heard enough.
So, how does the sunshine law play into this?
Moo

 

[IceIce9]

I just do not understand this. Releasing info will cause then

Will cause them extreme what?!
OK.
I've heard enough.
So, how does the sunshine law play into this?
Moo

If he just bumped his head on the wood part of the headboard why is his family trying so hard to hide it?