Bosma Murder Trial 02.08.16 - Day 5

[SnoopCat]

Interesting that the lefty puts items in his right pocket. MOO

I'm right-handed and keep all my cash in my front left pocket.

 

[loveisthemovement]

I'm right-handed and keep all my cash in my front left pocket.

Do people still carry cash? I might have $5 in change on me for a coffee, but I use debit for pretty much everything.

 

[Honey_West]

Adam Carter
Feb 8 2016 3:26 PM
The jury is now being recalled.

 

[JuneBug67]

English is not Igor's first language. He may have meant the letters were in the shape of a rectangle, not circular, or vertical, as is possible with a tattoo. As has been mentioned before, DM was a doodler, and may have boxed it in with ballpoint ink, while daydreaming about the upcoming crime, and thinking how " ambitious " he was. He did draw it for LE on a piece of wood. The drawing would clarify exactly what he remembered, and we have not seen that.

The request for public assistance illustrated the tattoo in uppercase, suggesting perhaps that's how it was drawn as well? So far evidence would suggest that it can be chalked up to the mysteries of human perception and memory. I'm open to learning that it wasn't DM at those test drives, but so far the reasonable assumption is that it was.

 

[inbetweendoors]

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 2m2 minutes ago

#MillardSmich court back in session. Iaccio back on stand.

 

[canadiangirl]

There was a crash there, thats why the flowers are there I believe.

Must've been around the same time as TB died
Google street view shows an empty pole in 2012, and then flowers in 2014
There is no street view in 2013 ironically

 

[Honey_West]

Adam Carter
Feb 8 2016 3:30 PM
Court now being shown cell records from the "Lucas Bate" phone.

 

[MsSherlock]

Given what was done to TB's body, I shudder to think what may have been done to him while he was still alive. And sadly because of how his body was disposed of, no one will likely ever know (unless the two start talking).



Anyone know if the skies were clear or cloudy that night? What about the moon?

Here's the weather report for the area for May 6, 2013. From 9- 10 pm it's under 2100-2200 hours- shows mostly cloudy but very clear visibility- so it wasn't foggy. MOO
http://climate.weather.gc.ca/climat...nID=49908&Month=5&Day=6&Year=2013&timeframe=1

 

[JPC]

Do people still carry cash? I might have $5 in change on me for a coffee, but I use debit for pretty much everything.

Someone not wanting to leave a trail may opt for cash instead of credit or debit.

 

[inbetweendoors]

More likely hooking up a trailer hitch covered in blood after dropping someone in an incinerator.

MOO

How many people here have actually hooked up a trailer? You typically don't need to get down underneath the truck...

 

[canadiangirl]

Do people still carry cash? I might have $5 in change on me for a coffee, but I use debit for pretty much everything.

Agreed, most of the younger generation do use debit.
I have tons of friends that can never buy a coffee from Tim Horton's with cash (including myself) because
we just don't carry it. DM is in that younger age group.

Now ask my Dad and he can flip you a toonie every.single.time

 

[inbetweendoors]

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 5m5 minutes ago
Court now viewing call records Iaccio obtained for police. #MillardSmich

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 5m5 minutes ago
Reminder: I can't answer all your questions. I can only discuss what has happened in front of jury. Otherwise contempt of court/mistrial.

 

[inbetweendoors]

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 37s38 seconds ago
Crown points to calls and txts made to/from previous witnesses, including Omar Palmilli, Igor Tumanenko & eventually #TimBosma.

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 44s45 seconds ago
Tumanenko's phone is on these records too -- as is Tim Bosma's. #HamOnt #TimBosma

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Phone records showing calls to Dennis Arujio and Omar Palmilli, who have already testified. #HamOnt #TimBosma

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 3m3 minutes ago
Crown prosecutor Fraser asks Iaccio to focus on last 12 calls on this particular call record. #MillardSmich

 

[Kamille]

How many people here have actually hooked up a trailer? You typically don't need to get down underneath the truck...

No but you might place a bloody hand there to brace yourself.

MOO

 

[inbetweendoors]

 

[inbetweendoors]

No but you might place a bloody hand there to brace yourself.

MOO

Agree to disagree then, to me that seems reaching... MOO

 

[Honey_West]

Adam Carter
Feb 8 2016 3:37 PM
The tower address can be seen on these records too. The tower most often being used when the Bate phone contacted Palmilli is 265 Markland Drive in Etobicoke.

Adam Carter
Feb 8 2016 3:34 PM
Tumanenko's phone is on these records too -- as is Tim Bosma's.

Adam Carter
Feb 8 2016 3:33 PM
Phone records showing calls to Dennis Arujio and Omar Palmilli, who have already testified.

 

[Honey_West]

Adam Carter
Feb 8 2016 3:38 PM
That's the address of the tower - not necessarily exactly where the phone is.

 

[Snowglobe]

If the eyewitness was looking west into the sun at the horizon, say down Book Road, his vision would have been impaired. This is a difficult time of day to see clearly. Shadows from trees and hay bales would be longer. The sun seems to set faster as it gets closer to the horizon.

Needless to say, vision would be impaired at 9:23 p.m. or so in early May. The moon was but a sliver that night.

http://www.moonconnection.com/moon-may-2013.phtml

Were there any farm lights in the field?

http://www.visualexpert.com/Resources/nightvision.html

 

[DeepWoodsOff]

Must've been around the same time as TB died
Google street view shows an empty pole in 2012, and then flowers in 2014
There is no street view in 2013 ironically

I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that the tribute you are seeing IS for TB. It is right across from their front yard, it is constantly being refreshed/added to AND when I drove by a week ago, there was a laminated photo of Tim on the pole with the flowers. The accident was further north closer to the intersection with Book Road. I'm not even going to add an MOO to this because it isn't an opinion...it is fact. It is so great to see people still remembering Tim with this tribute, almost three years later.