Bosma Murder Trial 02.23.16 - Day 13

[sab_bri]

Now afternoon recess for 20 mins.
by Adam Carter 2:46 PM

Really? :waiting:

Anyone else get all their work done today..lol

 

[aawaterloo]

I don't see the purposes of these past two witnesses for the prosecution. They provided nothing. If anything I'm surprised that the witness was allowed to say that they presume it was TB based on th police investigation, and that there we no objections to that statement. So far there is nothing putting TB in that incinerator.

We haven't heard it all yet. I thought there was blood found on the incinerator as well. I believe I read it somewhere if I'm not mistaken. Please correct me if I am wrong.

 

[RandomName479]

I don't see the purposes of these past two witnesses for the prosecution. They provided nothing. If anything I'm surprised that the witness was allowed to say that they presume it was TB based on th police investigation, and that there we no objections to that statement. So far there is nothing putting TB in that incinerator.

I think the purpose what to show that LE did everything they could to try and identify the remains in the incinerator, but because the body was incinerated beyond all recognition (even at a molecular level) they were not successful. I had the same thought as you.....what was the point? But the remains have been determined to be human. And considering the totality of the evidence (cell phone pings, blood, etc) a reasonable person can conclude it was TB in the Eliminator. MOO

 

[RandomName479]

We haven't heard it all yet. I thought there was blood found on the incinerator as well. I believe I read it somewhere if I'm not mistaken. Please correct me if I am wrong.

Hasn't been introduced into evidence yet, but in the Crown's OS it was stated that TB's blood was found on the Eliminator. HTH

 

[Kamille]

Recess pushed back a bit, we're now out until 3:30 p.m.
by Adam Carter 3:12 PM

 

[Kamille]

Back in court. The jury is being led in.
by Adam Carter 3:30 PM

The next witness is Det. Const. Mark Wilson from Hamilton police.
by Adam Carter 3:33 PM

He assisted with a search in connection with the Bosma case.
by Adam Carter 3:33 PM

 

[Kamille]

Crown Tony Leitch is asking about April 10, 2014, when a search warrant execution happened in Etobicoke.
by Adam Carter 3:34 PM

He was looking for a DVR recorder on Rufford Road.
by Adam Carter 3:35 PM

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
April 10, 2014 executed search warrant 5 Rufford Rd., Etobicoke. To search for a DVR.

 

[Kamille]

The officers got there not long after 12:30 p.m. They searched a detached garage and the basement, and then one of the upstairs bedrooms.
by Adam Carter 3:37 PM

That bedroom belonged to Christina Noudga -- Millard's girlfriend.
by Adam Carter 3:37 PM

He found the DVR in the closet, under a pile of clothes.
by Adam Carter 3:38 PM

 

[Kamille]

Court now seeing photos of the DVR buried underneath clothes in a closet.
by Adam Carter 3:39 PM

For people who don't know, a DVR is a digital video recorder.
by Adam Carter 3:40 PM

Wilson says he seized the DVR and passed it over to a detective in the identification unit.
by Adam Carter 3:41 PM

One other item was also seized, Leitch asks Wilson to please not tell him what it was.
by Adam Carter 3:41 PM

No cross examination. Wilson is excused.
by Adam Carter 3:42 PM

 

[Kamille]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 5m5 minutes ago
Seeing photo of house at Rufford Road. Searched with other officers. Arrived 12:06 pm. At 12:32 entered residence.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 4m4 minutes ago
Searched detached garage and basement. Then upstairs bedroom belonging to Christina Noudga, Millard's girlfriend. Her room at 3:13 pm.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
House is little yellow bungalow. Photo of her bedroom. On floor, all kinds of clothes around it, on it. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Seized it and turned it over to detective in forensics unit.

 

[Kamille]

That's it for witnesses. Ending early today. Back tomorrow at 10 a.m.
by Adam Carter 3:42 PM

 

[RandomName479]

"One other item was also seized, Leitch asks Wilson to please not tell him what it was." Adam Carter

The letter? What's going on? Could this have been deemed inadmissible? :silenced:

 

[swedie]

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[sleuther76]

Hi everyone. Long time reader and first time poster. Thanks to everyone for keeping us onlookers updated!

I just wanted to respond to a previous thread that talked about MS's Pacific mention on his shoe. I saw a few people linking to urban dictionary. However, if you actual look up the definition of Pacific in the dictionary it refers to being peaceful in character or intent. I am guessing this is the more likely reason for using the word Pacific and not because he was trying to spell out specific as a few other people referred to.

I know we have yet to see all the evidence, but I'm a little confused as to why SS isn't up there with these guys. It seems there is even more evidence against him when comparing to MS. MOO

 

[Kamille]

Did they say the officer went there looking for a DVR? As in they had information that they may find it there? :waitasec:

MOO

 

[RandomName479]

Question for a law person.....if we have any.....Could evidence that the Crown was going to use to "prove" the statements in their Opening Statement be now deemed inadmissible? I would have thought these admissibility issues would have been dealt with prior to trial so both sides know what they are dealing with and don't go making statements they won't be able to back up. But possibly because this was a direct indictment the rules are different? Anyone have any thoughts?

 

[swedie]

Crown Tony Leitch is asking about April 10, 2014, when a search warrant execution happened in Etobicoke.
by Adam Carter 3:34 PM

He was looking for a DVR recorder on Rufford Road.
by Adam Carter 3:35 PM

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
April 10, 2014 executed search warrant 5 Rufford Rd., Etobicoke. To search for a DVR.

Sounds like CN was co-operating at this point. Seems it to her arrest to get some co-operation out of her. MOO.

 

[Prairie_dawg]

"One other item was also seized, Leitch asks Wilson to please not tell him what it was." Adam Carter

The letter? What's going on? Could this have been deemed inadmissible? :silenced:

OR it is more important for the case against her than DM and MS.

 

[RandomName479]

Sounds like CN was co-operating at this point. Seems it to her arrest to get some co-operation out of her. MOO.

Does anyone have a link for what time CN was arrested? IIRC CN was arrested on April 10, 2014.....same day this search warrant was executed.....was she arrested BEFORE they searched her house or AFTER? Testimony today has house search starting around noon and finding the evidence in CN's bedroom after 3pm. TIA

 

[andreww]

What could they have wanted the DVR for? Are they referring to a PVR, like a Rogers box? Or are they referring to a DVD recorder? I'm a little confused.