Bosma Murder Trial 03.09.16 - Day 22

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  • #241
Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Pillay says the vehicle caught at 6:05 pm is the #Bosma truck. He's asking for break.

what is he getting at here?

Remember earlier when the Crown asked for a break right after showing the video of the Eliminator being ignited? The dramatic effect!!! I think this is Pillay's version. But does he really have anything of substance? Just seems like a lot of noise to me. Noise, noise, noise! MOO
 
  • #242
Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Pillay says the vehicle caught at 6:05 pm is the #Bosma truck. He's asking for break.

what is he getting at here?

If its to create confusion....he's susceeding with me! I'm really confused!
 
  • #243
Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Pillay says the vehicle caught at 6:05 pm is the #Bosma truck. He's asking for break.

what is he getting at here?

I think he's saying that the Super Sucker camera catches ANOTHER Dodge Ram-looking vehicle around the same time TB left on the test drive - implying that the later video of the Ram and the "hubcapless" vehicle following is an altogether different Ram. That TB + crew passed by alone at ~9:05.

...I think.
 
  • #244
Agreed. I think she offered a LOT of information to LE. Remember what MS yelled to her when they were arrested? "Don't tell them anything, babe!" He knew she knew a LOT of information. MOO

A family member of mine works on the tactical force and was saying that is how a lot of murders are solved. Guy tells wife/gf and the rest is history.


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  • #245
I think he's saying that the Super Sucker camera catches ANOTHER Dodge Ram-looking vehicle around the same time TB left on the test drive - implying that the later video of the Ram and the "hubcapless" vehicle following is an altogether different Ram. That TB + crew passed by alone at ~9:05.

...I think.

LOL! I think you're right. So I guess the other videos they have from all the other places that show the pick-up truck followed closely by a Yukon with no hubcaps were just coincidences. Noise, noise, noise! MOO
 
  • #246
Timelines are important. They need to be accurate.
 
  • #247
LOL! I think you're right. So I guess the other videos they have from all the other places that show the pick-up truck followed closely by a Yukon with no hubcaps were just coincidences. Noise, noise, noise! MOO

I suppose from there he could also try to say that the truck towing the incinerator trailer to the hangar was DM's red Ram. The video is dark and the trucks are similar, save for the number of wheels, lol.
 
  • #248
Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 34s34 seconds ago
Court back in session. Jury being recalled. #TimBosma #Bosma #HamOnt
 
  • #249
A vehicle with the characteristics of the Bosma vehicle travels north at 9:05 p.m. (6:05 p.m. by the Supersucker timestamp) on Trinity Road, Plaxton says. Then a vehicle with similar characteristics goes by at 9:20 p.m. -- but that isn't in the report. "They may very well be" the same vehicle," Plaxton says. "You didn't include that in your report?" Pillay says. "No," Plaxton says.
by Adam Carter 3:45 PM
 
  • #250
Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Pillay establishes 6:05 pm vehicle could be same as 6:20 pm vehicle on Super Sucker video (adjust time by 3 hours).

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Earlier vehicle was not being followed, Pillay establishes. Possibility that in fact could be #Bosma truck.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Pillay suggests that the vehicle in the 6:05 clip could be the same truck seen in the 6:20 clip (original time stamp). Plaxton agrees #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 46s46 seconds ago
But you didn't put that segment in your report. You missed that, Pillay says. Plaxton agrees it was not in his report. #Bosma

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 45s45 seconds ago
Pillay's argument is a truck goes by on the video at 9:20 p.m. that is "consistent" with #TimBosma's truck, but that isn't in the report.
 
  • #251
Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
#Millard lawyer is taking us through more video from excavation business near #Bosma home. Other trucks pass that could be #Bosma truck

Pillay showing a truck going south on Trinity Road at 9:15 p.m. with similar features to the Bosma truck.
by Adam Carter 3:49 PM

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Now seeing another segment taken at 6:15 (according to time stamp). Again Plaxton agrees vehicle captured here looks similar to #Bosma truck
 
  • #252
"You can't say this is not the same vehicle returning? You can't say this is not the Bosma vehicle returning?" Plaxton responds yes.
by Adam Carter 3:51 PM
 
  • #253
if they moved him at the location in Brantford or anywhere else he was bleeding, there would be blood found all over the ground?

Unfortunately, not necessarily.
By the time they moved TB (if where his cell phone was recovered) most of the blood from a head wound would be drained. ( I believe DM or MS would attempt a head shot wound)
I have studied that the most usual manner of death from a gunshot wound to the head is loss of blood. Sorry to have to type this.

If DM and MS laid a tarp on the ground by the truck, they could have transferred TB to the tarp with very little blood spill. ( I don't recall there being more than a few spots of blood on the tarps found in the trailer transporting TM truck)
JMHO
 
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  • #255
Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 1m1 minute ago
Pillay now showing another truck similar to the #Bosma truck appearing in the same video at a different time headed in the other direction

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Examining still images from Super Sucker video focusing on chrome rims, running lights, running board, like #Bosma truck, yet not in report.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 29s30 seconds ago
The vehicle wasn't being followed and it's possible it could be the #Bosma truck, Pillay suggests. Plaxton agrees it's possible.
 
  • #256
This is another segment that was not in Plaxton's report. "The first time you're providing evidence about it in front of this jury is now?" Pillay says. Plaxton says yes.
by Adam Carter 3:56 PM

Pillay says the video is consistent with a vehicle consistent with Bosma's truck going north on Trinity Road at 9:05 p.m., then going south at 9:15 p.m. ten minutes later. "Yes it is," Plaxton says. Pillay then says it's consistent with Bosma vehicle travelling north again at 9:20 p.m., Plaxton agrees.
by Adam Carter 3:57 PM

Pillay also says it's consistent with the Bosma vehicle going alone at 9:05 p.m. and 9:15 p.m. Plaxton agrees.
by Adam Carter 3:57 PM

Pillay's point here, basically, is that there are images of a truck "consistent" with Bosma's truck in this video taken from Super Sucker that aren't in Plaxton's report.
by Adam Carter 3:58 PM
 
  • #257
How could LE omit that another truck, virtually indistinguishable to the Bosma truck , was also on the same video?
 
  • #258
Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
Vehicle consistent with #Bosma truck travelling south at 6:05 pm alone, returning alone at 6:15 pm (adjust to 9:05 and 9:15).

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Bobcat video shows 2 vehicles arriving at 9:49 pm. Takes 19 or 20 mins to get there. So would pass Super Sucker at 9:29 or 9:30. #Bosma



^^^ Didn't RP just establish that it should have said 29 mins to get there? Or am I confused? Today has been long, lol.
 
  • #259
So... timeline is somewhat inaccurate and there is omission of another truck which seemingly looks the same.
 
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