Bosma Murder Trial 03.21.16 - Day 24

[Tealgrove]

Either SS is telling half truths or he was completely oblivious (and not very bright). IMO.

I'm with you 100%. We also know now that SS GOT NO DEAL, wasn't charged etc. etc. so that conversation can end.

 

[Kamille]

Schlatman says he showed Millard how to use The Eliminator. "I showed him how to fire it up."
by Adam Carter 11:21 AM

There was some difficulty in doing the test burn, Schlatman says. They were originally using BBQ tanks.
by Adam Carter 11:22 AM

Schlatman says he built the trailer the Eliminator was found on. "Dell said he wanted it mobile."
by Adam Carter 11:23 AM

 

[Ontario Mom]

I think he is outright lying on the stand. JMO

About what, specifically?

 

[SnooperDuper]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 17s17 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman says he was texting Millard about the issues, Millard had the tank installed #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 34s35 seconds ago
Schlatman did test burn then showed #Millard how to use the Eliminator. Only an automotive propane tank would work properly. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 30s31 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman says he built the trailer the Eliminator was sitting on #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 27s28 seconds ago
Had propane tank installed. Schlatman built trailer for Eliminator at Millard's request. #bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 33s34 seconds ago
Schlatman designed and built the trailer The Eliminator was affixed to. Dell wanted it to be a mobile unit, he says. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 30s31 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman says Millard asked him to put it on a trailer, so he bought the supplies to make it a mobile unit #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 23s24 seconds ago
Recalls that the incinerator dealers said that would be the first mobile unit they'd ever heard of. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 11s12 seconds ago
Manufacturers said it was first mobile unit they'd ever seen. #bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 24s25 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman tells the jury 'it was not normal' for the Eliminator to be a mobile unit #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 19s20 seconds ago
Did test burn in mid-August 2012.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 32s33 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman says he believes the successful 'test burn' was done in mid-August, 2012 #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 14s14 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman says cost to build the trailer $8,000. 'Dell' paid for it.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 16s16 seconds ago
Schlatman built trailer for Eliminator "because Dell wanted it mobile." Manufacturers told him it would be the first one they'd ever seen

 

[Kamille]

"They said that would be the first one they had ever seen -- so it was not a normal thing."
by Adam Carter 11:24 AM

The test burn was done in the middle of August or early Sept of 2012, Schlatman says.
by Adam Carter 11:25 AM

The trailer cost about $8K out of Millard's pocket, on top of $15K for The Eliminator. "Once it left the hangar I had only ever seen it at the farm property," Schlatman says.
by Adam Carter 11:26 AM



***Where is the questions "Was any garbage ever burned in it?" When did it leave the hangar? What garbage was at the farm?

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 29s30 seconds ago
Trailer cost about $8,000. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 25s26 seconds ago
After it left the hangar, only ever saw The Eliminator at the farm. Either inside or behind the barn. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 22s23 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman says once the Eliminator was put on the trailer, he only ever saw it again at the barn #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 15s16 seconds ago
Cost $8,000 for trailer parts. Paid by Millard. Trailer kept in barn or behind it on Millard farm.


^ $15k + $8k = $23k for something to park out where there's no hydro and no garbage?


Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 14s15 seconds ago
Total cost of the Eliminator with trailer was $23,000 Schlatman said

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 12s13 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Schlatman says he never had any reason to use the Eliminator #Bosma

 

[loveisthemovement]

Didn't LB go missing in July of 2012? And SS is saying the test burn didn't happen until Aug/Sept?

 

[SnooperDuper]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 22s23 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Dellen Millard is making notes, just ripped a page off his notepad #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 13s14 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Crown calling for morning recess #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 8s9 seconds ago
Jury taking morning recess

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 36s36 seconds ago
Schlatman never heard again about the pet cremation business...Break now for jury. #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

Didn't LB go missing in July of 2012? And SS is saying the test burn didn't happen until Aug/Sept?

yeah, right

ETA: that's why he was able to tell the dealer that the afterburners sound so great right away, right?

 

[Kamille]

Schlatman says he had no reason to use the Eliminator. He only ever saw it inside the barn or just outside the barn.
by Adam Carter 11:28 AM

Schlatman says he only talked about the Eliminator being used for pet cremation with Millard once.
by Adam Carter 11:29 AM

Now taking the morning recess. Back in 20 mins.
by Adam Carter 11:29 AM

 

[Arnie M]

Adam Carter CBC

Millard's uncle denied any conversation like this happened:

Millard bought the Eliminator on his credit card, Schlatman says.

Schlatman says Millard told him about the plan to go into the pet cremation business about a week before contacting the rep for The Eliminator

Schlatman was the one who dealt with the sale, but Millard was the one giving direction, he says

Schlatman says there had to be a "test burn" before the unit is used regularly. "You do a burn process on it where you raise the temperature slowly over hours."

Schlatman did the "break in burn," he says

Schlatman says he showed Millard how to use The Eliminator. "I showed him how to fire it up."

There was some difficulty in doing the test burn, Schlatman says. They were originally using BBQ tanks

Schlatman says he built the trailer the Eliminator was found on. "Dell said he wanted it mobile."

"They said that would be the first one they had ever seen -- so it was not a normal thing."

The test burn was done in the middle of August or early Sept of 2012, Schlatman says.

The trailer cost about $8K out of Millard's pocket, on top of $15K for The Eliminator. "Once it left the hangar I had only ever seen it at the farm property," Schlatman says.

Schlatman says he had no reason to use the Eliminator. He only ever saw it inside the barn or just outside the barn.

Schlatman says he only talked about the Eliminator being used for pet cremation with Millard once

Now taking the morning recess. Back in 20 mins

 

[Tealgrove]

Whoa, SS never saw the eliminator at the hangar again? We saw pictures of the Eliminator on the trailer in the hangar with 2 dogs running around. If he's working 12 hour days, how did he miss that?

 

[SnooperDuper]

yeah, right

ETA: that's why he was able to tell the dealer that the afterburners sound so great right away, right?

Susan ClairmontVerified account ‏@susanclairmont Feb 22
Aug. 13, 2012 Schlatman to Penner: "BTW- SN 500 is working great now..Sounds awesome when the afterburner kicks in!!"

Ok, maybe the contact was in August after all.

 

[Kamille]

So first in late 2011, DM asked SS to build him an incinerator for garbage. SS built a makeshift one out of steel barrels, like a lot of people do. In fact, a lot of people actually have burn barrels for garbage. But the makeshift incinerators people build work just as well...for garbage. DM tried the one SS built and it didn't suit his purpose, whatever that may have been. So he asks SS to look for an incinerator to purchase. SS looks for commercial ones for garbage and then DM tells him no..he wants one for animals because he's going into the pet cremation business with his Uncle.

:waitasec:

MOO

 

[Tealgrove]

MOO

I sense that Schlatman will fill in some of the gaps but he is not interested in putting his "friend" away and dropping the hammer. I really believe he is telling half truths. I think that's a good way to explain what is going on.

I would love to know what DM's demeanor is like today? I didn't hear that he waved to Shane.

 

[andreww]

yeah, right

ETA: that's why he was able to tell the dealer that the afterburners sound so great right away, right?

He said he fired it up to do the test but wasn't able to complete due to the tank. Acquiring the automotive tank and installing may have taken time.

Lets remember here that the prosecution doesn't SS to lie here. If he's lying, Millard's lawyer will know it and will make him look like a fool. If SS was involved, he'd be in jail, plain and simple. I think he may have suspected some illegal activities but simply turned his head in able to keep what was probably a pretty decent gig. I don't think he actually partook in anything illegal. Majorly illegal anyways.

 

[Kamille]

Susan ClairmontVerified account ‏@susanclairmont Feb 22
Aug. 13, 2012 Schlatman to Penner: "BTW- SN 500 is working great now..Sounds awesome when the afterburner kicks in!!"

Ok, maybe the contact was in August after all.

That contact was to get another copy of the invoice though. So obviously there was contact prior to that about them having difficulty with it, apparently due to using 20lb BBQ propane tanks for it? I don't think we heard when the "test burn" was done?

MOO

 

[ArianeEmory]

So the DIY incinerator is missing?

 

[loveisthemovement]

I would really like to see an invoice (and purchase date) on that automotive tank.