Bosma Murder Trial 04.06.16 - Day 31

[Juballee]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 48s48 seconds ago Brampton, Ontario
Dungey: You didn't have a fear of him when you were drinking or smoking? Daly: No #BosmaTrial

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 51s52 seconds ago
Dungey: during this time you had no problems with him. Daly agrees. Dungey suggests Mark would make off-base jokes but he wasn't afraid.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 50s51 seconds ago
Daly had no fear of his stoner buddy, he says #BosmaTrial

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 44s45 seconds ago
He never had fear of Smich most of the time while drinking and smoking. Joked around with him.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 30s31 seconds ago
Most of the time, Daly agrees. Dungey says if he was afraid he would've stayed away from him. He agrees. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 41s42 seconds ago
Marlena Meneses was around roughly half the time. They all got along, Daly agrees. #Bosma

Daly just finished saying that he was intimidated and afraid of MS, but look how quickly he changes his testimony to suit his friend's lawyer. I think he may be still trying to protect MS, in my opinion. TD will get him to contradict himself so much that it will make his testimony look meaningless, hoping that we will forget that he said it was MS's gun in his police statement. That's what friends are for

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 42s42 seconds ago
Dungey also suggests Mark's sister was outraged knowing there was something at the house. "Whatever it is she wants it out of there." #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 40s40 seconds ago Brampton, Ontario
Dungey hammering home the point that Smich did not know there was a gun in the toolbox, at first. Daly keeps repeating, it's possible #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 17s17 seconds ago
Re: gun, he wants to get some money to get a lawyer. "to protect himself, to get advice." Yup, Daly says. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 28s29 seconds ago
Smich thinks he can get money for gun so he can retain a lawyer so he can protect himself, suggests Dungey. Daly agrees. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 33s34 seconds ago
But he didn't sell the gun. Or the drugs. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 31s32 seconds ago Brampton, Ontario
Dungey repeating Smich feared for his life, that Dellen Millard was going to frame him. Daly agrees #BosmaTrial

 

[brightii]

So impressed by Dungey! He's an amazing lawyer, and now we know what AM's alleged involvement may have been.

All MOO.

 

[JPC]

So MS "best friend" kept a distance and felt uncomfortable with his so-called best friend; and then DM friend SS so-called wasn't a friend even though they had matching tattoos, went on vactaions together and were planning on building homes next to eachother. What? Was this non-friend Daly paid off?

So far SS and BD don't come off as reliable witnesses. They are all speaking out of both sides of their mouths.

 

[mozzagirl]

Hmm, this is interesting about the toolbox was only supposed to have drugs in it, but instead had a gun and was dropped off by AM.

The toolbox was shown to be identical to one in a video DM took years ago at his house. I have felt weird since yesterday about the idea of MS just keeping "his gun" in a big yellow toolbox. Doesn't seem like a great hiding place. So DM having a friend drop it off to him under the idea of it having drugs in the toolbox actually does make some sense to me. It is the first time one of the "framing" theories has made sense to me. Not that I think MS wasn't part of the murder, just that DM was trying to frame him and put all the blame on him.

MOO.

 

[Velma]

Dungey again suggesting Smich wasn't expecting the gun, and wanted to get rid of it. "He didn't know it was there and he didn't want anything to do with it," Dungey says. "It's possible," Daly says.
by Adam Carter 12:13 PM

Dungey then says Smich was trying to sell the gun to or drugs to get cash to retain a lawyer. "You weren't pressured into it, right?" Dungey says. "Yeah I was," Daly says.
by Adam Carter 12:15 PM

"Did you tell Mark at any point, 'You've gotta go to the police about this?'" Dungey says. Daly says no. Dungey says the two weren't thinking straight because the "haze" of drugs, but that Mark was "thinking straight" enough to try to get a lawyer.
by Adam Carter 12:16 PM

 

[ArianeEmory]

The only problem I have with Dungey right now is that a few minutes ago he told Daly not to guess at answers, but now he is asking him to guess at answers.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
Dungey suggests smich didn't know about gun in tool box. he had to dump it. Daly doesn't remember it. @AM900CHML #TimBosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
You weren't pressured into trying to sell the gun, Dungey says. "Yeah I was" Daly answers.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Daly wasn't pressured into helping, Dungey suggests. "Yes I was," Daly says. "I was asked to." Dungey says wasn't suggesting it was his idea

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Dungey says #Smich was scared about gun in toolbox bc he didn't know it was there & feared #Millard would frame him for #TimBosma murder.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Daly insists he was pressured into helping Smich. Calls Mike and meets him in a park, smoked dope. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Brampton, Ontario
Dungey: Did you tell Mark at any point to go to the police? Daly: I did not #BosmaTrial

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Re toolbox: Dungey asks if Daly ever told Smich he should go to police. Daly did not. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Brampton, Ontario
Dungey: I'm going to suggest because you're young guys, you're in this drug haze, you're not thinking right. Daly: Yup #BosmaTrial

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Dungey suggests they were both young guys not thinking straight. But Mark was thinking straight enough to want a lawyer after DM's arrest

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
#Smich next line of thought, sell the gun, get $ for lawyer. Protect himself, get advice. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Dungey says Smich didn't go to police because he was stoned and not thinking clearly. Same with Daly.

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 2m2 minutes ago
Dungey suggests smich and Daly didn't go to cops cause of drugs and bad judgement. @AM900CHML #TimBosma

 

[CJPRINCESS]

Okay, now I am confused.

"Dungey asking Daly about on May 6, when Smich brushed him off. "Dellen drops him off and Mark looks fearful ... as if something was told to him or said to him?" Dungey says. Daly says yes."

"Daly says he got that from Millard wearing sunglasses at night, and his general mannerisms."

Is this all about the 6th? It would just be getting dark when they arrived at TB's for the test drive.

Talking about prior to May 6th..the 5-6 times Daly met him.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Brampton, Ontario
Dungey: You just don't want to get involved with the police, the Bosma case. Daly: Absolutely #BosmaTrial

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
"Because he was fearful of being framed," Dungey says again. Dungey suggests they didn't want to get involved w police. Daly agrees. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Re: suggestion to bury gun while disguised as a city worker, Dungey says he was trying to help him. Daly agrees. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 2m2 minutes ago
Daly admits he didn't want to get involved in a big problem like Bosma. Did not need that problem. @AM900CHML #TimBosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Daly's life is a bit of a mess and he doesn't want to get involved in #Bosma case. But advises Smich to bury gun.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Brampton, Ontario
Dungey: You, as a good friend tell him, Mark why don't you go bury the gun? Daly: Correct #BosmaTrial

 

[Satchie]

It's been questioned why MS would have been involved in the truck escapade at all - perhaps the arrangement was he would be paid with a wholesale supply of weed.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Daly says he was trying to help Smich get out of a state of fear over the gun, which is why he suggested burying it #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Only advise from sister (who Dungey stresses doesn't know about gun) is "get it out of the house, whatever it is." #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Brampton, Ontario
Dungey: No one is there helping him... his sister, his girlfriend, telling him to go to the police. Daly: Correct #BosmaTrial

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Says Marlena also does not tell him to go to police. Daly agrees. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Brampton, Ontario
Dungey points directly to Millard, "He was afraid of HIM, he was fearful for his life, he was afraid of being framed." Daly agrees #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Dungey: I suggest you Mark did tell you he was surprised by the gun in the toolbox. Daly has no memory of that. #Bosma

 

[Velma]

"[Smich] is fearful for his life, he's fearful of Dellen Millard setting him up and framing him, and he's fearful of what this predicament might be now that he's got this gun laid on him," Dungey says.
by Adam Carter 12:19 PM

Dungey again says that Daly doesn't remember Smich telling him he wasn't expecting the gun to be "laid" on him because of his drug use. "By that logic, he could've told me anything I don't remember," Daly says.
by Adam Carter 12:21 PM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 52s53 seconds ago
Dungey asks if Smich told him he was surprised about gun in toolbox. Daly says he doesn't remember.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 34s35 seconds ago
Dungey suggests that's bc of the haze of drugs and alcohol.
"By that logic he could've told me anything I don't remember," Daly replies.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 44s45 seconds ago
Dungey suggests Daly's hazy state is why he can't remember Smich's surpise over the gun. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 25s26 seconds ago
Dungey says Daly doesn't remember because he was in a haze. Daly: "By that logic there could be everything I don't remember."

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 25s26 seconds ago
Daly snaps back "by that logic he could say anything I can't remember." #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Dungey says Daly doesn't remember because he was in a haze. Daly: "By that logic there could be everything I don't remember."

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 40s41 seconds ago
@susanclairmont Should be "anything" in previous quote.

 

[Juballee]

Daly says he got that from Millard wearing sunglasses at night, and his general mannerisms.
by Adam Carter 11:58 AM

"It's honourable for you to come to court and testify. You're doing the right thing. That's what every citizen should do. That's not being a rat. That's not being a snitch. That's being a citizen," Dungey says to Daly.
by Adam Carter 12:00 PM

Daly says sometime after May 6 it becomes clear to him that this has something to do with Bosma. "Does [Smich] tell you specifically who he is afraid of?" Dungey asks. "No he does not," Daly says.
by Adam Carter 12:01 PM

"He's fearful because he's afraid that Dellen Millard will frame him, correct?" Dungey says. "Correct," Daly says.
by Adam Carter 12:02 PM

He just finished saying that he doesn't know what MS was afraid of, then instantly agrees with TD that he was afraid of DM framing him. But if he didn't know, how can he agree? Something fishy there in my opinion.

 

[brightii]

Dungey may just be coming up with an alternative about MS having been surprised by receiving the toolbox with the gun it, but IMO it has the ring of truth to it. Time will tell if my sense is correct. I cannot wait until AM testifies.

All MOO.

 

[Kamille]

Looks like everyone was involved in sketchy and illegal behaviour and all of them are going to be covering their own butts first and foremost. So it's unlikely the truth will ever emerge from any of the witnesses IMO.

 

[mozzagirl]

If MS had a/the gun before all of this, don't you think he would have already had a good hiding spot for it? It is like as soon as it was in his possession with the toolbox, he had no idea where on earth to hide this gun. Like really?! His first thought is to hide it in a washing machine? That seems so bizarre. If he had it before, why not just put it back where he always did? No need to get flustered and get a bunch of people involved like he did unless it was dumped on him and he was scrambling, IMO.

MOO.