Bosma Murder Trial 04.25.16 - Day 39

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Sachak is driving home point that they stayed at her sister's because of truck. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 2m2 minutes ago
"I dont even want to say anything to u because I don't want to get in trouble. I mean about u personally" court laughs. @AM900CHML

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
He asks if at that point she picked up phone and called police about truck. No. Asks if she told Smich to. Yes but he didn't do it.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 3m3 minutes ago Mississauga, Ontario
Millard lawyer: Did you pick up the phone and call police? (About the truck being seen at the hangar) Meneses: No #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
Meneses is agitated by line of questioning and is getting tripped up in her answers. #TimBosma @AM900CHML

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
Meneses says there were several reasons they stayed with her sister; wedding guests & the stolen #TimBosma truck discovered in the hangar

 

[Inspector_North]

Nor can I believe she wasn't interested in whether the celebration would include herself.

IMO

Her text messages and her claimed interest in the Yukon conversation look like two different people. When MS got in touch with her, she asked what happened, and she thought he died or something. Yet, she didn't pay attention or inquire about the prolonged mission when she got into the Yukon?

MOO

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Sachak: so Smich wanted to move. Said lets move to your sister's. He was worried about the police.
Meneses agrees. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Sachak again asking about talk on May 7 about a celebration. Meneses says she's not going to agree with him that there was no discussion.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
"I remember in the car they said there would be a celebration." Sachak says he's asking about after they got home. No discussion. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 58s59 seconds ago
She says there was in the car. Sachak says he's asking about after, at home. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 56s56 seconds ago
On wed may 8, Sachak says she asked him where the guy was. She says she doesn't remember that. He directs her to her statement. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 57s58 seconds ago
In statement she said "I just tried asking him where the guy was. But at the same time I didn't want to ask anything." She agrees her words.

 

[meterclicks]

Sachak says on May 8, Meneses asked Smich where Bosma was. She says she doesn't remember that. He directs her to a page in her statement.
by Adam Carter 12:03 PM

"I just tried asking him, where was the guy. But at the same time I didn't want to ask anything," Sachak reads from her statement.
by Adam Carter 12:05 PM

"I just asked him where was the guy, and Mark said he didn't know," Meneses said in her statement.
by Adam Carter 12:06 PM

 

[mimimic]

Well that's a little rich. I really don't think she knew that they intended to kill.

Possibly a little, because they didn't exactly watch, but maybe having knowledge of a gun or two involved shows more danger than just a theft.

 

[meterclicks]

"In your mind, he was with Dell on May 6, right? You know that, everyone knows that," Sachak says. Meneses agrees.
by Adam Carter 12:07 PM

"The guy missing and the truck missing was paramount to Mr. Smich," Sachak says. Meneses agrees.
by Adam Carter 12:07 PM

"So Smich tells you, Dell took the truck, and he didn't do anything ... and you're happy with that explanation because it distances Mr. Smich with whatever may have happened," Sachak says. Meneses says yes.
by Adam Carter 12:09 PM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 42s43 seconds ago
May 8, Meneses heard that #TimBosma was missing & asked #Smich where he was. But she also didn't really want to know

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 59s59 seconds ago
She said Smich had said he didn't know (on May 8, when she asked where the guy was). #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 46s46 seconds ago
Meneses told police #Smich could have been lying to protect her, or himself.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 36s37 seconds ago
But she said she didn't know if he was telling the truth. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 22s23 seconds ago
It was Wed May 8 that she found out the truck was missing and the guy was missing, Sachak says. She agrees. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 33s34 seconds ago
Sachak: Smich told you Dell took the truck and he didn't do anything.
Meneses: yes. #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 28s29 seconds ago
Meneses is feisty. She says to Sachak: "I don't even want to say anything right now because I don't want to get in trouble." #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 55s55 seconds ago
Sachak suggests Smich kept telling her nothing really happened and that she said OK. She agrees. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 36s36 seconds ago Mississauga, Ontario
Meneses saw the missing truck on the news, and Bosma's photo. She says she asked Smich about it, but she 'didn't really want to know'

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 16s16 seconds ago
Sachak says "say about what?" Meneses answers: "about you personally sir." #TimBosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 51s52 seconds ago Mississauga, Ontario
Millard lawyer: You knew there was more to it? Meneses: Right #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 44s45 seconds ago
"You knew there was more to it. It's not like this guy just got out of his truck and walked away," Sachak suggests. She agrees. #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 59s59 seconds ago
"But you were in a difficult position. You were just 19," Sachak suggests. "Emotionally torn." Meneses says "we're not here for me." #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 1m1 minute ago
Meneses new as early as may 8th about #TimBosma truck. Didn't want to know about it. @AM900CHML #TimBosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Sachak asks if Meneses was emotionally torn, "yeah, but we're not here for me." She repeats this twice

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 50s51 seconds ago
Sachak repeats: "you were emotionally torn." She agrees. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Mississauga, Ontario
Millard lawyer: You were emotionally torn apart. Meneses: yes but we're not here for me. Lawyer: Emotionally torn? M: we're not here for me

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
She told her sister that Smich's family was in town for the wedding. Sachak asks when they had arrived. She doesn't remember. #Bosma

 

[Inspector_North]

Looks like proving she heard about DM's arrest on the 10th is the least of her problems to ensure credibility.
MOO

 

[meterclicks]

"You knew that in spite of Mr. Smich's explanation, something very tragic had happened to Mr. Bosma," Sachak says. Meneses agrees. Sachak repeatedly says she was "emotionally torn," and she responds "yes, but we're not here for me."
by Adam Carter 12:11 PM

Meneses struggling with when exactly Smich's sister came to town for the wedding. "I'm sorry, it was so long ago."
by Adam Carter 12:12 PM

Sachak is suggesting that Smich's sister was already in town for the wedding when they left, and she was the only relative staying at the house. One of the reasons the court heard about why she and Smich left for her sister's house is that relatives were coming for the wedding.
by Adam Carter 12:14 PM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 55s56 seconds ago
Sachak; "you were emotionally torn?" MM; "yes. But we aren't here for me." @AM900CHML #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 48s49 seconds ago
She says "I think Andrea (Mark's sister) was already down." She can't remember exactly when she got there. "I'm sorry it's been so long ago"

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 57s57 seconds ago
Andrea #Smich was already staying at #Smich house before the couple moved to 30 Speers, in advance of sister wedding.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 10s11 seconds ago
Meneses doesn't remember when exactly sister from Calgary arrived to stay at Montrose Abbey with #Smich, his mom & Meneses

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 41s41 seconds ago
Sachak asks what other relatives arrived to stay at the house. "That's the only one," she says.
"Yeah exactly," Sachak says. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 31s31 seconds ago
Sister was the only other person who stayed with #Smich mother. The house has several bedrooms & three washrooms.

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
He points out the house had several bedrooms. 2.5 bathrooms--enough for 4 people. #Bosma
"Yeah, technically," she says.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Jury heard from Meneses sister Liz last week that the couple moved in with her to accommodate wedding guests at #Smich mother house. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 44s44 seconds ago
Liz's apartment, on the other hand, was one bedroom."and the 3 of you are happy to use that from May 8 to May 19," Sachak says. Yes. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 46s47 seconds ago
Liz apt has one bedroom and one washroom. All 3 used them from May 8-19. "So really that was a pretense, right?"

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 24s25 seconds ago
So Smich's sister's arrival was just a "pretense" for staying at Liz's, he suggests. She agrees. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 14s14 seconds ago
Meneses agrees it was #Smich excuse that he needed to move from mother's house because of the wedding.

 

[meterclicks]

Meneses's sister's apartment had one bedroom and one washroom. "Andrea's arrival from Calgary was just a pretense ... it was an excuse," Sachak says.
by Adam Carter 12:17 PM

"The primary reason had nothing to do with the wedding, it had everything to do with Smich wanting to avoid the police, right?" Sachak says. "Yeah," Meneses responds.
by Adam Carter 12:18 PM

Meneses says she first learned that Bosma had died from the news and not Smich.
by Adam Carter 12:19 PM

 

[DeepWoodsOff]

Is it just me or had 99.9% of us already concluded that the MS' desire to stay at MM's sister's place had nothing to do with the wedding and everything to do with hiding from LE? MOO

 

[Inspector_North]

Is it just me or had 99.9% of us already concluded that the MS' desire to stay at MM's sister's place had nothing to do with the wedding and everything to do with hiding from LE? MOO

That is true, but finding out this way is not good for the crown. MOO

 

[meterclicks]

When she asked him about it, Smich said Bosma was "gone, gone."
by Adam Carter 12:20 PM

"You didn't find out from Mark a gun had been used, did you?" Sachak says. "No. I found out from the news," Meneses responds.
by Adam Carter 12:21 PM

"I was just there, but my hands were clean. I just happened to be there for all these things but I didn't do anything," Sachak says about what Smich told her. Meneses agrees.
by Adam Carter 12:23 PM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 6m6 minutes ago
Meneses being hammered on why they really stayed ay her sisters following DM arrest. He was in hiding. Not a wedding. MM: "yeah" @AM900CHML

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 6m6 minutes ago
"It had everything to do with #Smich wanting to avoid the police, right?" Ya.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 6m6 minutes ago
"So it had nothing to do with the wedding and everything to do with Smich wanting to avoid the police," Sachak suggests. She agrees. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 5m5 minutes ago Mississauga, Ontario
Millard lawyer focusing on the reason why Smich and Meneses went to her sister's house May 8 - because he wanted to avoid police #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 5m5 minutes ago
Meneses agrees that she and Smich going to her sisters house had nothing to do with a wedding and everything to do with Avoiding the police

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 5m5 minutes ago Mississauga, Ontario
Millard lawyer: Smich didn't tell you Mr. Bosma died. The news told you? Meneses: Right #Bosma

 

[Inspector_North]

"You didn't find out from Mark a gun had been used, did you?" Sachak says. "No. I found out from the news," Meneses responds.
by Adam Carter 12:21 PM

Was there mention of a gun in the news before the 22nd?

Uh??

 

[DeepWoodsOff]

That is true, but finding out this way is not good for the crown. MOO

Respectively disagree. The people sitting on that jury are everyday people like the rest of us. Whether people like it or not, common sense comes into play for a lot of testimony. MOO