Bosma Murder Trial 04.25.16 - Day 39

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Meneses says it's fair that she didn't want to know any more, because the truth would be too painful.
by Adam Carter 10:51 AM

More from her statement: "Go in. Like, just go in there and tell them you didn't do anything. Like, if you're hiding, you're going to be in more trouble than not hiding."
by Adam Carter 10:52 AM

"The truth is what you wanted to believe, right?" Sachak says. "Right," Meneses answers.
by Adam Carter 10:53 AM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 50s50 seconds ago
Meneses told #Smich to go to police and tell them he didn't do anything. #TimBosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 49s49 seconds ago
She agrees the truth would be too painful. #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 37s37 seconds ago
"If you're hiding you're going to be in more trouble," she told police she said to Smich. She says now she was saying 'tell the truth.'

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 36s36 seconds ago
"The truth is what you want to believe," Sachak says. She agrees. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7s7 seconds ago
She wanted him to tell the police he didn't do anything, Sachak suggests. She agrees. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 4s4 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Millard lawyer: You wanted him to tell the police he didn't do anything? Meneses: Yeah #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 20s21 seconds ago
Meneses now saying she was telling him to 'tell the truth' #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 21s22 seconds ago
Sachak pulls another folder out of his bag. "When Mr Smich left on May 6, you knew he was going to go steal a car." She agrees. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 30s31 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Millard lawyer: You knew he was going to steal a car. Meneses: Yeah #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 19s20 seconds ago
Meneses knew #Smich was going to steal a car May 6, 2013. Got panicked when he didn't come home that night. She called & texted repeatedly

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 15s16 seconds ago
When he didn't come home she was panicking. Repeatedly called him. Texted him. "You wanted to know where is he," Sachak says. Yes. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 6s6 seconds ago
She stayed awake just waiting for him to walk in. He wasn't responding. She agrees. #Bosma

 

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"When Mr. Smich left on Monday May 6, you knew he was going to steal a car?" Sachak asks. She says yes.
by Adam Carter 10:54 AM

She became very concerned that night, Meneses says, when she didn't hear back from Smich that night.
by Adam Carter 10:55 AM

Meneses says she called Michalski asking about Smich because she liked and trusted him.
by Adam Carter 10:56 AM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Meneses called Andrew Michalski when #Smich didn't come home because she trusted him. They are still friends.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Sachak says she called Andrew Michalski because she liked him. Trusted him. She agrees. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
She was calling to see if he knew where Mark and Dell were. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 31s32 seconds ago
"He tells you don't worry it won't be the first time they do this (go out late)--accept it, kind of thing." She agrees. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 24s25 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Millard lawyer taking Meneses through the night of May 6, 2013, when Bosma took a test drive with two men #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 44s45 seconds ago
Smich came to pick her up with Dell the next morning. Sachak suggests she was pretty scared--where the hell had he been? She agrees. #Bosma

 

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She was asking where Smich was, knowing that he had been planning to steal a truck.
by Adam Carter 10:57 AM

Meneses agrees that she questioned Smich as to what was going on. "And what they told you is they were celebrating?" Sachak says. "Yeah," Meneses answers.
by Adam Carter 10:59 AM

She says when she got into Millard's SUV the morning after Bosma disappeared, Millard and Smich were laughing and smiling.
by Adam Carter 11:00 AM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 43s44 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
She called and texted Smich repeatedly. She was up all night, worried. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 22s23 seconds ago
The next morning #Smich and #Millard picked Meneses up. She agrees she was upset, scared. Her body language in surveillance video shows this

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 42s43 seconds ago
She waited up all night for #Smich, worrying.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 40s41 seconds ago
She was annoyed, she agrees with Sachak. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 26s27 seconds ago
The answer to her questions and concerns were that "they were celebrating" #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 39s40 seconds ago
They were "celebrating," they tell her. She doesn't remember if she asked what that meant. #Bosma

 

[Typhoo1961]

I hope the Bosmas are holding up okay.

 

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molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 28s29 seconds ago
She recalls they were "laughing and smiling a lot." #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 39s40 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Millard lawyer: When you get in the truck, they're not high-fiving? Meneses: No, they were laughing, they were smiling #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 50s50 seconds ago
"They were laughing, and smiling a lot." Meneses says she didn't ask the specifics

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 34s34 seconds ago
Sachak asks if she asked them what their plans were to celebrate later. She did not. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8s9 seconds ago
Sachak says the "celebration" was in answer to her concerns about where they were all night.

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 22s22 seconds ago
May 7th. Hours after #timbosma shot/burned MM says they were "laughing and smiling a lot" @AM900CHML

 

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"You never talked about that to the police until April 16?" Sachak says. She agrees.
by Adam Carter 11:01 AM

She made multiple statements to the police before that date.
by Adam Carter 11:01 AM

Sachak is listing off all of her statements and when they were made. The Crown objects and the jury is sent out for an argument.
by Adam Carter 11:03 AM

 

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Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 22s22 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Meneses didn't tell police about Smich and Millard celebrating the morning after. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 5s6 seconds ago
She made several statements to police. May 22. May 23. June 5. June 13, 2013. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 11s12 seconds ago
Meneses made at least 7 statements to police and never mentioned the celebratory atmosphere in #Millard Yukon May 7 until on stand at trial

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 35s35 seconds ago
"It's like I'm holding a Charles Dickens novel here," Sachak says re: that last one. "302 pages." #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 23s23 seconds ago
He references more dates but Crown has an objection re: the number of pages of the statement. Jury asked to step out. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 21s21 seconds ago
Objection raised. Jury leaves. #timbosma @AM900CHML

 

[DeepWoodsOff]

I think Pillay is creating a contradiction here for TD to jump all over. His first attack is basically saying that what she said in her statement and also in court is only what MS told her so it isn't first hand and thus, essentially can't be relied upon. Now he is insinuating that all the things that MS said about "f'ing up" and TB was "gone, gone, gone" suggests that it truly was MS that killed TB etc. Which is it Pillay? Her testimony is garbage because it was second hand from MS or the testimony is very good because it suggests that it was MS and not DM that "F'd" up? MOO

 

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Jury now being recalled.
by Adam Carter 11:08 AM

 

[Inspector_North]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 11s12 seconds ago
Meneses made at least 7 statements to police and never mentioned the celebratory atmosphere in #Millard Yukon May 7 until on stand at trial

And the cross has only started. Not looking good for MM. MOO

 

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molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Jury returning. Meneses back on the stand. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Judge addresses jury re: sachaks characterization of statement as a "Charles Dickens novel." Says to disregard that. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Vaughan, Ontario
Jury back.

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 50s50 seconds ago
Jury back. Cross continues. #timbosma @AM900CHML

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 33s33 seconds ago
On April 16 of this year she made another statement as prep before testifying. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 47s48 seconds ago
Sachak says this was the first time she ever mentioned them "celebrating." She agrees. #Bosma

 

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Goodman tells the jury to disregard one of Sachak's statements that one of Meneses' statements to police was akin to a Dickens novel in size.
by Adam Carter 11:10 AM

Sachak says the last statement she made was 9 days before her testimony. "That's the first time in three years that you made any reference to them celebrating," Sachak says.
by Adam Carter 11:12 AM

Meneses says no, and that in her first statement to police she says something about Millard and Smich being happy when she got into the SUV.
by Adam Carter 11:12 AM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 42s43 seconds ago
Meneses agrees that on the stand was the first time in 3 years that she mentioned #Millard and #Smich celebrating morning May 7 #TimBosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 35s36 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Millard lawyer asks Meneses about why for the first time, in three years, she made reference to Millard and Smich celebrating #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 27s28 seconds ago
Wait now she's disagreeing. "I swear my first statement says something about them being very happy." #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 17s18 seconds ago
Sachak says this was the first time she ever mentioned them "celebrating." #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 17s17 seconds ago
She disagrees. "I swear in my first statement I said something about how they were very happy when I got in the car," she says. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 9s9 seconds ago Vaughan, Ontario
Meneses swears she believes she told police the two were 'very happy' in her first statement #Bosma

 

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She says she previously said Millard and Smich were happy, but not that they were celebrating.
by Adam Carter 11:13 AM

Sachak now pointing out that Meneses couldn't remember what was said inside the truck at first under examination from the Crown. She had to refresh her memory from her first statement.
by Adam Carter 11:15 AM

"But three years after ... you remembered for the first time that they were celebrating inside the truck," Sachak says.
by Adam Carter 11:15 AM

 

[Inspector_North]

It's looking like the text about the fire side furniture and sausage frying will be one of the key evidence that MS was a partner to premeditated murder. MM has a long way to go with the cross, and it's not starting out well for her. MOO

 

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molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 18s19 seconds ago
Sachak suggests she rereads that over the break. Says if he's wrong he apologized. She says the same. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 12s12 seconds ago
She says she didn't say celebrating but did reference them being very happy. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 9s9 seconds ago
Sachak now asking about what conversation took place in the truck. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 18s18 seconds ago
Meneses challenged on why it took so long for her to tell police about may 7th- "celebrating' she only disclosed in april 2016.@AM900CHML

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 14s14 seconds ago
That they told her they stole the truck etc., Sachak says--reminding her that at first she couldn't remember during Crown examination #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 54s55 seconds ago
Reminds her she had to look back at her prep statement (from April 16). She agrees. #Bosma