Bosma Murder Trial 04.26.16 - Day 40

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Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 29s30 seconds ago
How did Meneses know that #Millard had lots of young men under his control? She was there for convos with ppl like Andrew Michalski

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 32s33 seconds ago Hamilton, Ontario
Dungey asking Meneses about a 'mission' to steal construction equipment. She doesn't remember much #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 31s32 seconds ago
She said she remembers talk of them wanting to steal construction equipment but doesn't recall if they actually did it. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 26s27 seconds ago
"Did you know about a mission to steal a Bobcat?" What is a Bobcat? Meneses asks. Construction equipment. She remembers.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 53s54 seconds ago
Dungey asks if she knows about a mission involving a Bobcat. She asks what a Bobcat is. She remembers a mission to steal one.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 36s37 seconds ago
Dungey asks if they told her about specific missions. "Besides the truck?" she asks. Yes, Dungey says. #Bosma

 

[Typhoo1961]

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 6m6 minutes ago
Millard is NOT happy. He is very agitated by questioning. Rolling his eyes. Puffing. @AM900CHML #TimBosma

Good!!

 

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Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 54s55 seconds ago
Meneses says she remembers Millard and Smich telling her about missions to steal lawnmowers and construction equipment #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 49s50 seconds ago
She remembers talk of stealing lawn mowers and the bobcat, she says. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 44s45 seconds ago
There were other thefts, other than the truck; the lawnmowers. and the ... sorry... Bobcat. #TimBosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 56s57 seconds ago
She also remembers missions for law mowers. Smich told her he was paid by Millard for stealing. Didn't tell her amount. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 37s38 seconds ago
Meneses says Smich said he was paid for the thefts by Millard but she never knew how much #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 49s50 seconds ago
Smich told her he was getting paid to help with the "missions." And that was the reason he was doing them. #Bosma

 

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Meneses says she knew about plans to steal the lawnmowers and the bobcat. Smich told her he was paid for helping with these heists.
by Adam Carter 11:42 AM

"That's why he was doing them, because he was getting paid. That was the only reason," Meneses says.
by Adam Carter 11:43 AM

Meneses says she knew for some time that Millard was planning to steal a truck.
by Adam Carter 11:44 AM

 

[ArianeEmory]

I'm not quite sure how DM is maintaining his composure thru all of this. It must be testing his willpower to the max! IMHO, Dungey won't let MM off the stand until every one of DM's little secrets is revealed- hey, you never know, DM may jump up and object himself!! MOO

Not sure if you saw it, but there is a tweet today saying he is QUITE agitated.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 34s35 seconds ago
#Smich told Meneses he did missions with #Millard to get money. "That was the only reason," Meneses says

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 31s32 seconds ago Hamilton, Ontario
Meneses tells the jury the only reason Smich would do 'missions' with Millard is because he would be paid #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 55s56 seconds ago
Meneses says it was the only reason Smich was doing the missions with Millard - because he was paid #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 43s44 seconds ago
She knew Millard was talking about stealing a truck (prior to May 6). She was present for a conversation about it. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 28s29 seconds ago
Only reason Smich did missions was to get paid. "That was the only reason." Millard had talked about stealing a truck. She heard that.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 20s21 seconds ago
Smich and Millard were talking about stealing a truck. Michalski was there too. They were looking at the computer, she was on the couch.

 

[Katpaws]

Peter Pan in some more recent portrayals (ie: Once Upon a Time) is a very sinister character indeed......more like the Pied Piper with a crew of thieves....I don't think the original reference was in any way dismissing DM's actions.....MOO

Most definitely not. Meant purely as an analogy of the relationships, out-of-touch thinking, and powerful hold DM held over others, as well as their complicity in his dark world.

 

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molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 51s52 seconds ago
This was on May 4, 2013. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 58s59 seconds ago Hamilton, Ontario
Dungey now focusing on the plan to steal a truck. Meneses overheard the conversation on May 4, 2013 #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 48s49 seconds ago
Meneses was at #Millard Maple Gate home May 4, 2013, when #Millard, #Smich & Michalski were looking at trucks to steal.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
She thought it was stupid "cause my understanding was Dell was rich. And so if you have money why would you go steal something."

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 51s52 seconds ago
May 4 at Maplegate. She was on couch. Smich, Millard, Michalski looking at computer. She said: "It is stupid. Dell was rich."

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 42s43 seconds ago
Meneses thought the plan to steal a truck was stupid "it was my understanding Dell was rich," she says. #Bosma

 

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molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
She says she piped up and said that, but they just ignored it. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Hamilton, Ontario
Meneses on the plan to steal a truck "It was stupid. It was my understanding Dell was rich." #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Meneses says she thought it was stupid because #Millard was rich. "I think I said it as they were looking at the computer." She was ignored

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 1m1 minute ago
She told Smich and Millard so, but she was ignored, she says. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
They ignored her. Dungey: He thought he could do anything because he was so rich? Objection by Pillay. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Hamilton, Ontario
Meneses said she told Smich and Millard the plan was stupid. Nobody listened. #Bosma

 

[loveisthemovement]

Not sure if you saw it, but there is a tweet today saying he is QUITE agitated.

Except it only came from AP and no one else.... From what I have seen, AP is quite the sensationalist.

 

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She had overheard a conversation about it while at Maplegate. "It was stupid. It was my understanding that Dell was rich," Meneses says.
by Adam Carter 11:45 AM

"Did you have the impression of Dell that he thought he could do anything because he thought he was so rich?" Dungey says. "Yes," Meneses says, while Millard's lawyers object.
by Adam Carter 11:46 AM

The two went on a test drive on May 5, but Meneses says Smich didn't say anything about it when she saw him that day. He was hungover, Meneses says, and was complaining about a shoulder injury. "So it was impossible for him to lift things, right?" Dungey says. "Yes," Meneses says.
by Adam Carter 11:48 AM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 56s56 seconds ago
Meneses thought #Millard could do whatever he wanted because he's rich. #Millard lawyer objects. #TimBosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
May 5, 2013, Meneses was working and didn't know of test drive with Igor Tumenenko.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 36s36 seconds ago
May 5 she worked. Didn't know about a test drive that day. After she worked she saw Mark. He was sick. Drank too much. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 35s35 seconds ago
May 5 2013 Meneses was working. She saw Smich after the test drive and he was complaining of feeling unwell. He was vomiting. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 34s34 seconds ago
#Smich didn't tell her about the test drive "at all." He wasn't feeling well. Vomiting. Told her he drank too much. #TimBosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 21s22 seconds ago Hamilton, Ontario
Dungey now talking to Meneses about May 5, 2013. The day before Bosma disappeared #Bosma

 

[CJPRINCESS]

Well...well...finally someone that DID get paid for the heists lol

"That's why he was doing them, because he was getting paid. That was the only reason," Meneses says.
by*Adam Carter*11:43 AM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 14s15 seconds ago
#Smich had had a shoulder issue for some time "it kept dislocating" & planned to see a doctor that week with his mother. #TimBosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 48s49 seconds ago
Smich also had a shoulder that would dislocate from time to time. It was hurting that day as well. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 44s45 seconds ago
On May 5 Smich was complaining about his shoulder. He'd gone for a test drive that day but didn't mention it to her. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 42s43 seconds ago
Smich's shoulder would dislocate. He'd made plans to see a doctor next day. Said he was going May 6 for a test drive to steal truck.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 51s51 seconds ago
#Smich told Meneses he was going on a test drive to steal a truck on May 6, 2013. The day #TimBosma went missing.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 51s51 seconds ago Hamilton, Ontario
Meneses said Smich told her he was going on a test drive May 6, 2013, to steal a truck with Dell #Bosma

 

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molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 47s47 seconds ago
He did mention that night that he was going to go on a test drive (to steal the truck) the next day. He was going with Dellen. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 44s44 seconds ago
Meneses said Smich was going on a test drive to steal a truck on May 6 2013 with Dellen Millard. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
"I begged him and asked him not to do it," she says. But he ignored her. He said Dell was going to pay him. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Hamilton, Ontario
Meneses: I begged him and asked him not to do it. Dungey: Good advice, and he ignored you. Meneses: Yes #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
"I begged him and asked him not to do it." He ignored her. He was going to be paid by #Millard. #Smich needed money

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Said he was going with Dell. Meneses says she told him it was stupid and asked him not to. Smich was going to be paid by Dell.

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Smich needed money at that time, Dungey says. "Yes he did," she says. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 1m1 minute ago
She begged him not to go. Smich went anyway. He needed money and Millard was paying. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 47s47 seconds ago
MM says smich told her he/Millard were stealing a truck may 6th. And that he wld get paid. She tried to stop him. He needed $ @AM900CHML

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 34s34 seconds ago
May 6, when she didn't hear from him, she was nervous. "Who knew what could've happened to him," she remembers thinking. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 58s58 seconds ago
Meneses was worried because they were doing something dangerous. "They weren't texting or calling me for hours." She called Michalski,

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 53s53 seconds ago
May 6 she doesn't know where Smich is. Worried about him because he was doing something "dangerous." She calls Michalski for help.

 

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Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 50s50 seconds ago Hamilton, Ontario
May 6, 2013 Meneses said Smich didn't respond for hours. She was concerned something happened, because they were doing something dangerous.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 49s49 seconds ago
Meneses didn't know why was happening that night because Smich wouldn't call or text her for hours. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 45s45 seconds ago
Early on May 7 she contacted Michalski. He told her things would be ok--that it wasn't the first, wouldn't be the last time that happened.

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 58s58 seconds ago
MM says she "begged" Smich not to do it. He ignored her. @AM900CHML #timbosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 57s57 seconds ago Hamilton, Ontario
Meneses said when Smich finally responded he said, 'I'm busy I'm driving' #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 56s56 seconds ago
She had had a brief convo with Mark that night. "He just said 'I'm busy I gotta go I'm driving,'" she says. #Bosma

 

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Meneses says Smich told her on the 5th that he and Millard were going to go on a test drive of a truck the next day and steal it. "Did he tell you he was going to be paid?" Dungey says. "Yes." Meneses responds "And who was going to pay him?" Dungey asks. "Dell," Meneses says.
by Adam Carter 11:50 AM

On May 6, Meneses was panicking because she didn't hear from Smich all night and he wasn't answering her texts.
by Adam Carter 11:51 AM

On the morning of May 7, she got a text from Smich that he was going to be there to pick her up shortly from her sister's.
by Adam Carter 11:52 AM

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
She didn't know what Smich meant by that. He didn't tell her. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Brief conversation with Smich: "I'm busy. Gotta go. I'm driving." Meneses says she didn't know exactly what he meant by that.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Michalski told her it wouldn't be the first or last time #Smich & #Millard out all night. When she reached #Smich he said, busy driving.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Next morning she gets a message from Smich that he was on his way to get her. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 59s60 seconds ago Hamilton, Ontario
May 7, 2013 Meneses got a message from Mark. He's on the way. Picking her up shortly. #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 58s59 seconds ago
She hd a brief conversation with Smich that night. He said he was driving, but Meneses admits she didn't know what he was doing. #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
#Smich didn't have driver's license. He texted he was about to pick her up, shortly before 8am. She was angry because she'd been up worrying

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
She's at her sister's place. She's frustrated--she'd been scared. "You're not in the best of humour," Dungey suggests. She agrees. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
May 7 morning gets message from Mark that he's going to pick her up from her sister's apartment. Meneses was upset. Dell seemed very happy.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Dungey says "you told police Dell seemed very happy. He got a new truck." She agrees. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
"Dell was very happy, he got a new car, right? Yes. "They both told me the mission went well." #TimBosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 1m1 minute ago
May 7 2013 Meneses agrees that Millard seemed very happy because he got a new car. The mission went well. #Bosma