Bosma Murder Trial 04.26.16 - Day 40

[ArianeEmory]

Hmm, MM is done on the stand.

 

[mimimic]

Explains why Rubikinks has been so active on social media yesterday and today. Interesting artsy shot of a wreath like illustration with a woman's face in the center, a plane on one side with a snake on the other. I still think hat this is all some kind of code.

The first time i ever looked for that type of social media was because of Rubikinks (i found it) although could someone please refresh my mind what social media it is found on again.(?) i forget, pacifically although, serious

 

[JPC]

Took a look at CN's instagram. Honestly it looks like she's just snapping pics of random stuff trying to look artsy/deep. Who would she be sending code to, anyway? Or do prisoners in CA get access to social media? And if it's someone not in prison, surely she can just talk to them in person.

I am not convinced that she isn't communicating with someone that he is allowed to speak with.

 

[meterclicks]

Dungey now continuing his cross-examination. Asking about Smich saying to her that he "f--ked up." "The reason he was saying that is because he went with Dellen that day and was going to steal a truck ... and because he didn't listen to me as well," Meneses says.
by Adam Carter 2:59 PM

Goodman says our next witness could take quite some time, and won't start today, so he excuses the jury until tomorrow morning. That's it for what I can report for today.
by Adam Carter 3:00 PM


Ok, that was fast.

 

[ArianeEmory]

I am not convinced that she isn't communicating with someone that he is allowed to speak with.

I'm sorry, I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, I just don't see this happening. It would mean they had to set up some sort of cipher ahead of time (what does a snake represent? what does a picture of a stripper represent?) and at that point why not just have the conversation in RL to begin with?

 

[JPC]

I'm sorry, I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, I just don't see this happening. It would mean they had to set up some sort of cipher ahead of time (what does a snake represent? what does a picture of a stripper represent?) and at that point why not just have the conversation in RL to begin with?

All makes sense because you are a rational human being. I can't say the same for the cast of characters who have been trotted out at this trial.

 

[Inspector_North]

What day was the sausage text again?

During LE's presentation of recovered texts, it was mentioned that while DM was texting about preparing for the mission, MS sent two photos. One of camp fire furniture, and the other of a sausage frying in a pan. It should be somewhere in day 35 or 36

 

[Nosey Parker]

Missed something along the way - who is Rubikinks? CN? and how come that name?

 

[JPC]

The first time i ever looked for that type of social media was because of Rubikinks (i found it) although could someone please refresh my mind what social media it is found on again.(?) i forget, pacifically although, serious

It isn't pacifically at the libarry : )

Insta

 

[mimimic]

Correct this if wrong. They will just RE-Ask the question and she will have to answer it with her sworn in truth again. They just can't say "hey look what you said over there in that other court room, so now tell us in this court room ... who, what w, w and why" She will have to answer[again] the questions - even if it is the same question.

Anything that CN says on the witness stand in this trial can't be used against her in her own trial. Period. Unless in her own trial, she gets on the stand and testifies under oath that something different happened. Then she would be up on perjury charges. moo.

ETA, I think I see what you are getting at. You are wondering what happens if CN testifies in this trial, and admits everything the Crown already has on her, if then it would be deemed inadmissible evidence in her own trial. Only her *own* testimony is inadmissible. Everything the Crown has on her is still admissible. Only her own words can't be used against herself.

 

[billandrew]

I am not convinced that she isn't communicating with someone that he is allowed to speak with.

IMO her posts are, at best, symbolic and not directed to anyone in particular. Her latest post is a bunch of straws, and here we are grasping at straws about the meaning of her posts. IMO she's just trying to be artsy.

 

[Massasauga Rattler]

Yes, I just heard that CN's up tomorrow morning and they're expecting a massive crowd at the Court House. I can't imagine that CN will be on the stand without a day of arguments, but that's just MOO. Also, I'm wondering if CN's lawyer PM will be with her or even part of the arguments. Can anyone shed some light on how this will work?

I'd bet money on it that we don't see CN until at least Thursday. Just MO and my money!:happydance:

 

[ArianeEmory]

Missed something along the way - who is Rubikinks? CN? and how come that name?

Yeah, it's one of her social media names. IG and Steam, that I know of. (I assume this info is kosher since she's up on charges in this case.)

I don't know the genesis of the name. But she was nicknamed "Kinks" by DM in some of their text exchanges.

 

[paris_paris]

MM testified about MS backpack. Black with buckles and stuff. Never saw it again after the 6th. Were there grommets found where the fire was at the farm?

 

[JuneBug67]

Correct this if wrong. They will just RE-Ask the question and she will have to answer it with her sworn in truth again. They just can't say "hey look what you said over there in that other court room, so now tell us in this court room ... who, what w, w and why" She will have to answer[again] the questions - even if it is the same question.

Yes, but she doesn't have to take the stand in her own trial. The Crown has to be able to prove their case independently.

 

[deugirtni]

Correct this if wrong. They will just RE-Ask the question and she will have to answer it with her sworn in truth again. They just can't say "hey look what you said over there in that other court room, so now tell us in this court room ... who, what w, w and why" She will have to answer[again] the questions - even if it is the same question.

The thing is... that the accused does not have to testify in her own trial.. for that very reason.. to do so, she may self incriminate.. so, I'm not sure the percentage, but seems many accuseds do not testify at their own trials.. therefore, she would not be at odds. If she did choose to testify in her own defence at her own trial, then she should hope that her testimony will remain the same. The Crown could not at her own trial, say, 'but at DM's trial, you said x, x, and x, so you are guilty'.

 

[deugirtni]

I'm sorry, I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, I just don't see this happening. It would mean they had to set up some sort of cipher ahead of time (what does a snake represent? what does a picture of a stripper represent?) and at that point why not just have the conversation in RL to begin with?

Is it not said that DM has complete and unfettered access to computers and such so that he may defend himself in his LB case? Wondering if that means access to internet? Just a thought, and wondering same.

 

[JuneBug67]

The thing is... that the accused does not have to testify in her own trial.. for that very reason.. to do so, she may self incriminate.. so, I'm not sure the percentage, but seems many accuseds do not testify at their own trials.. therefore, she would not be at odds. If she did choose to testify in her own defence at her own trial, then she should hope that her testimony will remain the same. The Crown could not at her own trial, say, 'but at DM's trial, you said x, x, and x, so you are guilty'.

The Crown could say that. They can introduce her previous testimony if it is contradictory. So if CN in this example takes the stand in her own trial she will have to be consistent or face impeachment by her own past words. If she doesn't take the stand however the Crown can't present her past testimony as evidence.

 

[deugirtni]

I'm sorry, I don't mean to rain on anyone's parade, I just don't see this happening. It would mean they had to set up some sort of cipher ahead of time (what does a snake represent? what does a picture of a stripper represent?) and at that point why not just have the conversation in RL to begin with?

There is a pic of a stripper in there too? It is like that book... where is waldo!

 

[JuneBug67]

IMO her posts are, at best, symbolic and not directed to anyone in particular. Her latest post is a bunch of straws, and here we are grasping at straws about the meaning of her posts. IMO she's just trying to be artsy.

I think it would have been hard for her NOT to identify a little with the snake and airplane one. Her association with DM caused her life to take a dark turn and now she's up on criminal charges. For all her loyalty it should be clear to her that she didn't mean much to DM. I have to think she has pain and regrets. My guess is that the image may have resonated with her due to the case, and that that might be part of why it was compelling enough to her to include in her feed. That's different though from it being some kind of mysterious code.