Bosma Murder Trial 04.27.16 - Day 41

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  • #441
Distracted driving. EXTREMELY distracted driving?
Stoned and distracted-I don't know what she's doing here? This sounds like something that DM would cook up- some wild goose chase stuff. If she thought this all up herself, she's more of a wacko than I ever thought. IMHO, MM has 1000 times more class than this little number any day. And, she's saying all of this with her mother in the court room? Proud momma moment with that one. MOO
 
  • #442
Well, now we know why they never talked about anything - not even the weather!

She is really what my Dad would call 'a piece of cake'. (By the way, I think that old saying really referred to cows and their pancakes). :winkaway:
 
  • #443
(Tweets moving fast, everyone awake?)
 
  • #444
Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
Noudga and #Bosma jury coming back now.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
She is actually wearing a long black skirt, not pants as I thought earlier. High purple-red pumps. She walks with a straight back & grin

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
We are back. Leitch says he doesn't want to get into "who did what" re: sexual favours in the truck but asks how long it took. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Leitch is asking again about sex acts during drive to Waterloo. How long did it take? The drive there. 45 minutes to 1 hr

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
She says it lasted "the drive there." #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Leitch asks how much of the hour drive was taken up with the act. She says "it started on the highway pretty much til we got there." #Bosma
 
  • #445
Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Out of the hour how long was taken with this act? It started on the highway. Pretty much til we got there. While the drive is happening.

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 2m2 minutes ago
Jury back. Nougda asked how long sexual favours lasted on drive to waterloo. Started on hwy. Until they got to hangar. @AM900CHML

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Minutes? Nope.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Noudga says the sexual act took place between the time they got on the highway until they got to Waterloo. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
We're back. Leitch wants to know how long sexual act in pick-up took. "It didn't start right away. It started on the highway."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
He asks how much time was left to talk during the trip. "Um 15-20 minutes?" She says. #Bosma
 
  • #446
"Leitch says he doesn't want to get into "who did what" on the 45 min to an hour drive, but he wants to know how long it took. "It was the drive there," Noudga says. "It didn't start right away, it started on the highway and pretty much until we got there." It happened while driving, she says.
by Adam Carter 3:54 PM

"How much time was left to talk on the trip?" Leitch says. "15-20 minutes," she says. "It was moreso discussed what had just happened in the car," she says, and nothing about the trailer.
by Adam Carter 3:54 PM

They then went to the hangar, Noudga says. Court now seeing images of Millard's red truck.
by Adam Carter 3:56 PM
 
  • #447
On the other side, she did corroborate DM was the driver of the truck hosting TB's missing truck.
She did corroborate DM handed her the DVR thus hiding evidence.
She corroborate his pot use.
IMO
 
  • #448
Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Let's say it's an hour. How much time was left to talk during the trip? Noudga says 15-20 minutes. What was discussed about Kleinburg

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
How much time was left to talk, the crown asks. 15 to 20 minutes Noudga says. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Leitch asks if they then discussed what happened in Kleinburg. She says it was "more discussing what had happened in the car." #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
They go to the air hangar. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
It was more discussion about what happened in the car. The sex act. Then the got to the hangar. #TimBosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Only about 15 minutes of trip didn't involve sex act. And that 15 minutes was spent talking about the sex act, says Noudga.
 
  • #449
I'm afraid to see what reason she'll give that they didn't discuss moving the incinerator in the dead of night.
 
  • #450
Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
Noudga says they "pretty much" only discussed the sex act during that time . #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
Minutes the crown asks? Nope nougda says. Crown wants to know how long so he can find out what kind of conversation happened. @AM900CHML

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
Noudga's mom is in the court, by the way. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 3m3 minutes ago
Nougda says they didn't talk about Kleinburg. They talked about the sexual act. @AM900CHML

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Looking at photos of red truck going to hangar. She notices the cap on back of truck, which she calls "hatchback" -- she's never seen it

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Leitch shows her photos of the red truck at the hangar. She recognizes it. #Bosma
 
  • #451
"As we're driving out of the highway [the sex act] was pretty much over," she says. "We were talking about meaningless things, nothing about a mission."
by Adam Carter 3:57 PM

Millard said by text that he was busy, and "It need not be mentioned again," Noudga says.
by Adam Carter 3:57 PM

At the hangar they switched from the red truck to Millard's SUV.
by Adam Carter 3:57 PM

She says in her statement she thought they "moved boxes," but she now doesn't think that was the case.
by Adam Carter 3:58 PM
 
  • #452
On the other side, she did corroborate DM was the driver of the truck hosting TB's missing truck.
She did corroborate DM handed her the DVR thus hiding evidence.
She corroborate his pot use.
IMO

Thanks! You found something positive from this. MOO
 
  • #453
Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Now seeing photos of red Dodge pick-up. Jury has seen these before, with and without a cap on back. Noudga recognizes this as Millard's.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Jury seeing surveillance photos of Millard's red truck heading to the Waterloo hangar. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
The red truck is the one that they used to pull the 5th wheel trailer. #TimBosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
As were driving out of the highway "the sex act is pretty much over" #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Sex act lasted until they exited the highway. Their conversation was about "meaningless things." #TimBosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
"Talking about meaningless things. Nothing related to the mission," she says. #Bosma
 
  • #454
Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
"Talking about meaningless things. Nothing related to the mission," she says. #Bosma

First she denies a special meaning to mission, then she uses the word herself?
 
  • #455
Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
Noudga and #Bosma jury coming back now.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
She is actually wearing a long black skirt, not pants as I thought earlier. High purple-red pumps. She walks with a straight back & grin

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
We are back. Leitch says he doesn't want to get into "who did what" re: sexual favours in the truck but asks how long it took. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Leitch is asking again about sex acts during drive to Waterloo. How long did it take? The drive there. 45 minutes to 1 hr

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
She says it lasted "the drive there." #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Leitch asks how much of the hour drive was taken up with the act. She says "it started on the highway pretty much til we got there." #Bosma

BBM
Scum. Absolute scum. She truly is the KH to PB. And to think there are other scum out there just like these two that we just haven't heard about yet. MOO

This testimony has me rethinking MS. I don't think any higher of him and in my mind he was involved....but my mind has shifted a bit here...I see DM being the planner and the trigger puller. Clarity is coming out of her testimony for me. MOO
 
  • #456
Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
Noudga says they never discussed why she didn't see Millard for a whole week. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
Leitch asked if she asked about why they hadn't seen each other that week. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
She didn't feel she needed to ask more questions about why he'd been so busy that week. #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
She says it was already been discussed in text "so it need not be mentioned again." #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
At hangar they switched the red truck for the blue Yukon. #TimBosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 3m3 minutes ago
Once they got to the hangar they switched trucks. From the red pickup to the Yukon SUV. #Bosma
 
  • #457
molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
At the hangar, they switched from the red truck to the Yukon. She says "not much" happened there. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
She says she knows in statement she said they moved boxes but now she doesn't actually think that was that night. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Not much happens at hangar she says. In her statement she said they moved boxes but now she thinks that was a different date.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
Get to hangar, switch red pick-up to "the blue one." The Yukon. She said in statement she moved boxes in the hangar. Now can't recall.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3m3 minutes ago
She says they were there for a "couple minutes...probably around 10." #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Leitch asks if they wore gloves there. "Um no I don't think so," she says. #Bosma
 
  • #458
She says they were probably there around ten minutes. "Did you wear gloves there?" Leitch asks. "No, I don't think so," Nodga says.
by Adam Carter 3:59 PM

Leitch now asking her to refresh her memory from her police statement.
by Adam Carter 3:59 PM
 
  • #459
Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Says they were probably there for 10 minutes. They didn't wear gloves, she says, as far as she recalls. #TimBosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Did you wear gloves there? The crowns asks. "No I don't think so," Noudga says. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
Was there for 10 minutes. Leitch asks if she wore gloves there. Noudga says "no, I don't think so." #bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Now she's getting a chance to review her police statement. #TimBosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
She is reviewing her statement to police.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 36s37 seconds ago
Noudga seems rather smug on the stand. Not friendly or helpful in any way. #Bosma
 
  • #460
I think it served a dual purpose (in her head):

1) Lame excuse for why they didn't talk about the utter weirdness of what they'd just done

2) A big ol' middle-finger at the justice system

I didn't honestly believe she was still hung up on DM or that the red shoes were a symbol, but I guess you guys are right.

I think the big towel wrapped around her mothers face coming to court was a clue too. I hope they weren't driving.
 
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