Bosma Murder Trial 04.28.16 - Day 42

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
"...People often make small lies, and are caught lying by the details. X NEEDS to know, what the police already know, so that X doesnt say..

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 39s39 seconds ago
Letter lays out police case against Dell. "Dell will say the toolbox had remained locked the entire time." And Christina saw it in car.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 39s39 seconds ago
It goes on to say what "Dell will say..." Etc. This portion is about the toolbox drop-off. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 34s34 seconds ago
In letter: "Mark wanted Dell to hide (toolbox) They do not know if Dell was told the combination.)

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 34s34 seconds ago
"Dell will say he borrowed Christina's phone to send some texts." That is what Noudga testified to today.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 25s25 seconds ago
"Dell will say he borrowed Christina's phone to send some texts.." #Bosma

 

[Jen Darme]

I don't think that was his intention with the letters. Apparently each one had instructions to destroy after reading and she obviously ignored that.

I don't know. There has to be something worthwhile in them and that's unlikely without significant bias/lies.

ETA: !!!

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 39s39 seconds ago
"Mark said he made a terrible mistake and tell was trying to contain it."

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 21s22 seconds ago Moncton, New Brunswick
We see handwritten letters, where Millard is talking in third person with specifics about exactly what happened after Bosma was killed

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 32s32 seconds ago
"After Mark's arrest police found the toolbox EMPTY in Mark's basement" it says. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 30s30 seconds ago
"Dell will say he returned to Maplegate without the toolbox." "After Mark's arrest police found the toolbox EMPTY in Mark's basement."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 18s18 seconds ago
These letters are VERY long so just tweeting snippets. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 32s32 seconds ago Moncton, New Brunswick
Millard refers to himself as 'Dell' #Bosma #TimBosma

 

[mozzagirl]

Who hadn't given a statement at this point (after late June) or had changed their statement?

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 41s42 seconds ago
"Police know that after Dell's arrest Matt returned the toolbox of drugs to Mark. After Mark's arrest police found the toolbox EMPTY"

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 23s24 seconds ago
Millard got all this from disclosure. Noudga says "I thought this was odd." Thinks she responded with vague "Ok that's interesting."

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 34s35 seconds ago Moncton, New Brunswick
Noudga: I thought it was odd, I didn't see any reason for him to hide the fact that I was in the car with him. #Bosma #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 32s33 seconds ago
Leitch asks what she thought when she received that letter. "I thought it was odd," she says. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 34s35 seconds ago
"Sooner or later, X may be forced to give statements or be sepined to take the stand. People often make small lies.r caught lying in details

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 33s34 seconds ago
Noudga thought letter was odd because she didn't know why she should hide fact she was in Yukon (another part of letter).

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 52s52 seconds ago
No copy of Noudga's letter in response exists.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 49s49 seconds ago
"I didn't see any reason for him to lie about me being in the car with him." She says she didn't agree she just would write about her day.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 39s40 seconds ago
Noudga says she just went on with her day after receiving the letter. "Looking back now he's obv asking me to tamper with evidence."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 25s26 seconds ago
Noudga did not go to police with this information. Leitch asks if she believed the contents to be true. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 19s20 seconds ago
Looking back now "he was obviously asking me to tamper with evidence." She did not go to police with this. "I didn't want to be involved."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 26s27 seconds ago
She says no, she knew she was in the car. Says she didn't go to cops because didn't want to get involved. #Bosma

 

[mozzagirl]

"After Mark's arrest police found the toolbox EMPTY in Mark's basement," Millard wrote.
by Adam Carter 2:31 PM

Noudga says she thought the letter was odd.
by Adam Carter 2:31 PM

"Looking back now, he's obviously asking me to tamper with evidence," Noudga says. "Did you go to the police with this information?" Leitch says. "No I did not," Noudga says. "I didn't want to be involved." Leitch asks if that was due to the love she had for him. She says not really. "I had plans to go abroad, I had plans to move on with my life, I didn't want to be involved with any mess he might have caused."
by Adam Carter 2:34 PM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 44s44 seconds ago
She did not go to police with the information. "I didn't want to be involved." Did it have to do with love? Not so much. I had plans

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 30s30 seconds ago Moncton, New Brunswick
Crown: Why didn't you go to the police? Noudga: I didn't want to be involved... I had plans to go abroad, and move. #Bosma #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 24s25 seconds ago
"I had plans to go abroad, move on with my life, I didn't want to be involved with any mess he might have caused," she says. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 20s20 seconds ago
"I said, it's not my job to get evidence, I'll just leave it where it lies." #TimBosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 6s7 seconds ago
"X needs to know what the police already know. So X doesn't do anything contrary" @AM900CHML

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8s9 seconds ago
Leitch asks if at this pt she knew he'd been charged with the first degree murder of #Bosma. She says she doesn't know when charges changed.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 53s53 seconds ago
She's not sure when she became aware of charges being upgraded to first degree murder. Did you think police would be interested in(letters)?

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 52s52 seconds ago
Leitch asks if she read any media reports after May 15. Asks if she thought the police might be interested in these letters. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 50s50 seconds ago
She says she doesn't know when she found out he was charged with murder. "It never occurred to me" police would be interested in letter.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 35s35 seconds ago
"I just left them there and they collected dust."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
She says she didn't want to be involved. She says letters "sat there collecting dust." #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 59s60 seconds ago
"I just left them there and they collected dust." Noudga says of the letters.

 

[mozzagirl]

"Did you think the police might be interested in this?" Leitch asks. "No," Noudga says.
by Adam Carter 2:35 PM

She says she didn't discuss receiving this letter with anyone else.
by Adam Carter 2:36 PM

Noudga says she told two friends and two family members about the letters. She told them the letters were "romantic."
by Adam Carter 2:37 PM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 1m1 minute ago
The letter goes into detail of what X needs to say to police. Nougda; 'he was asking me to tamper w evidence and testimony." @AM900CHML

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 44s45 seconds ago
Leitch asks if she discussed receiving this letter with anyone else. She says no. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 44s44 seconds ago
Eventually she told "intimate friends and family members." #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 47s48 seconds ago
Leitch cautioning her on solicitor/client privilege. She didn't discuss letter with anyone. Told close friends/family of Millard letters.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 34s35 seconds ago
At some point she told "intimate friends and family" that she was getting letters from #Millard. Two friends, Two family members

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 31s32 seconds ago
Two friends, she says. Two family members. Didn't show anybody the letters. #Bosma

 

[loveisthemovement]

"Did you think the police might be interested in this?" Leitch asks. "No," Noudga says.
by Adam Carter 2:35 PM

She says she didn't discuss receiving this letter with anyone else.
by Adam Carter 2:36 PM

Noudga says she told two friends and two family members about the letters. She told them the letters were "romantic."
by Adam Carter 2:37 PM

She just directly contradicted herself!

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 57s58 seconds ago
She didn't show anyone the letters. Told people they were romantic.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 56s57 seconds ago Moncton, New Brunswick
Noudga says she didn't show anyone the letters, but she talked to 'intimate' friends and family about them. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 48s49 seconds ago
She told 2 friends, 2 family members. Never showed anyone the letters. Said "that they were romantic."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 44s45 seconds ago
She just said that they were "romantic." Leitch says part of this is not romantic-did you mention this part? Never, she says. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 35s36 seconds ago
Agrees part of the letter was not romantic. She didn't share the witness tampering part. #TimBosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 1m1 minute ago
Did u go to police?"I didn't want to be involved.' Was it about your love for DM? "Not really. I had plans to travel abroad.Get on w my life

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
She was the only one who knew about "this kind" of content. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Moncton, New Brunswick
She told them they were romantic letters, even though the letters appear to be discussing tampering of evidence. #Bosma #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Leitch asks if she was prepared to lie for him. "No," she says. He asks if she'd like to refresh her memory on that from her writings #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Were you prepared to lie for him? No. Would you like to refresh your memory from your own writings? #TimBosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Were you prepared to lie for him? "No." Would you like to refresh your memory from your own writings found in your room?

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 36s36 seconds ago
Directs her to page. "The one with the giant cross through it?" She says. "That's the one," he says-2nd page that's not crossed out. #Bosma

 

[sleuther76]

Noudga says he was professing his love for her in almost every letter. "X needs to know what the police already know, so that x doesn't say anything contrary, x must have this information. Police know Mark gave Dell a locked toolbox," Millard writes in this letter.
by Adam Carter 2:29 PM

​IMO, what a snake!

Noudga says she doesn't know who X was referring to.
by Adam Carter 2:29 PM

I'm reading between the lines, but it looks like DM is trying to setup MS here

 

[mozzagirl]

"Were you prepared to lie for him?" Leitch asks. "No," Noudga says. Leitch asks her to refresh her memory from the writings found in her room.
by Adam Carter 2:38 PM

"I wrote that with the thought of maybe helping him out, but I had never written it to him that." Noudga says she "thought about it," but wasn't prepared to lie for him.
by Adam Carter 2:39 PM

Now onto another letter.
by Adam Carter 2:39 PM

 

[SnooperDuper]

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 35s35 seconds ago
Nougda says she didn't go to police w info. Letters. Says she wasn't prepared to lie for him. Now looking at statement she made.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 55s55 seconds ago
She now says she wrote that with the thoughts of "maybe helping him out" but says she never wrote that to him. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 47s48 seconds ago Moncton, New Brunswick
Crown: Were you prepared to lie for him? Noudga: No... I thought about it, but I wasn't prepared for it. #Bosma #TimBosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 45s46 seconds ago
Leitch directing her to her own notes. Were you prepared to lie for him? "No! I thought about it, but I wasn't prepared for it."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 40s41 seconds ago
Leitch asks her again. "I thought about it but I wasn't prepared for it," she says. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 53s54 seconds ago
"I wrote that with the thoughts of maybe helping him out. But I never wrote it to him." Insists wasn't prepared to lie. She thought about it

 

[CJPRINCESS]

Phone records would have revealed that.

Maybe by a landlines?

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 52s52 seconds ago
She put it in writing, then changed her mind.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 42s42 seconds ago
Moving on to the second letter. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 18s19 seconds ago
I wrote that maybe I would help him out. Crown demands again after looking at statement. 'I thought about it. And put it in writing here."

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 20s20 seconds ago
Next letter: Aug 2-3. Hey Princess. So I just heard the province (redacted) Great... I'm reminded of a breaking bad quote...."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 20s20 seconds ago
This one is August *symbol* -- she says in another letter he'd written out a "cool way of keeping track of time." disagrees it was a code.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 9s10 seconds ago
So it's from Aug. 2 or 3. There is a portion blacked out. Judge explains parts have been deemed inadmissible and warns not to speculate.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 18s18 seconds ago
"...'Never, trust a drug addict.' The words stood out when I first heard them. I should have applied the wisdom."

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 4s4 seconds ago
Noudga says #Millard was talking about #Smich.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 3s3 seconds ago
Dellen references a breaking bad quote: "never trust a drug addict." She says this is about Mark Smich. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 10s11 seconds ago
"Every day above ground brings new hope of being reunited with you. I miss you so very much! Keep writing me."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 18s19 seconds ago
He writes "every day above ground brings new hope of being reunited with you. I miss you so very much!" #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 12s12 seconds ago
(Letter) Aug. 3 or 4 Hey Princess, So I just heard the province...Great...