Bosma Murder Trial 05.03.16 - Day 44

[Inspector_North]

She had the lamest excuse for protecting herself with the blackmail note. Who would be joking around with this subject when her BF is charged with first degree, and possibly known as a ex GF Eliminator?

MOO

 

[brightii]

But would DM'S witnesses count as MS'S witnesses?

If I understand correctly, if DM's defense team subpoenaed MB then TD could cross examine her testimony, and vice versa, but if TD subpoenaed MB he could not ask her leading questions as he would in a cross, IMO.

I think whichever defense side were to subpoena a witness that would be considered their witness, IMO. Unless I'm not understanding correctly.

All MOO.

 

[CJPRINCESS]

Someone else answered that they are not allowed to lead a witness they call. Am I wrong?

I get the Crown can not ask leading questions on their own witness. It's the two differnt defense teams that confuse me.

Im not saying your wrong because I dont have a clue, but wouldn't DM have his witnesses that TD can cross and MS have his that Pillay can cross? Or are they like "one" defense team?

ETA: I misunderstood, all cleared up now thanks

 

[JPC]

She may be smug about being smart and accepted at med school but even if she completes the degree, if she has been convicted of a criminal offence she will not be able to get a board licence to practice in most, if not all provinces.


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[CJPRINCESS]

If I understand correctly, if DM's defense team subpoenaed MB then TD could cross examine her testimony, and vice versa, but if TD subpoenaed MB he could not ask her leading questions as he would in a cross, IMO.

I think whichever defense side were to subpoena a witness that would be considered their witness, IMO. Unless I'm not understanding correctly.

All MOO.

Thanks Brightii, that makes sense. I must have read something wrong. Tired eyes lol

 

[brightii]

She may be smug about being smart and accepted at med school but even if she completes the degree, if she has been convicted of a criminal offence she will not be able to get a board licence to practice in most, if not all provinces.


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If a lengthy jail sentence doesn't interfere with CN's aspirations for medical school, I'll bet she's planning to go to school in Europe or the US, IMO. Likely once her legal issues are settled her whole family may re-locate, IMO. Does she have siblings here? If not, I can't see any reason why they would want to live here, IMO, unless CN gets a conviction at her own trial, then she'd have to go wherever she's assigned to serve her time, IMO.

All MOO.

 

[brightii]

Thanks Brightii, that makes sense. I must have read something wrong. Tired eyes lol

bbm No wonder! lol I can only imagine how hard it is to keep up with all those tweets! Thank you!

 

[mozzagirl]

Dungey says it was a decision from her and Madeleine Burns to wipe down the truck. "I don't know why, we just did. It was a spur of the moment, panic decision," she says. "We were in denial Dell had anything to do with this."

by*Adam Carter*3:59 PM

Sorry I am just catching up on today but this stood out to me.

Like my post a few nights ago, if they thought DM was innocent, call police. Have them look at the trailer and clear him of involvement.

All I can think is if my husband (or even when he was my bf and we lived hours apart) was charged in something like this, if I really truly thought he was innocent, I would open his home and everything to police to get him cleared and home to me as soon as possible.

 

[mozzagirl]

It's not the media who destroyed your lives.

Amen to that.

 

[mozzagirl]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
"I hadn't slept for days, I had three exams in a few days." I'm sorry it never came up until you brought it up, she says.

Again, I call BS. Exams finish by April 30th at the extreme latest. There is absolutely no way she had exams in the first week of May. I ain't buying what you are selling CN.

 

[JPC]

If a lengthy jail sentence doesn't interfere with CN's aspirations for medical school, I'll bet she's planning to go to school in Europe or the US, IMO. Likely once her legal issues are settled her whole family may re-locate, IMO. Does she have siblings here? If not, I can't see any reason why they would want to live here, IMO, unless CN gets a conviction at her own trial, then she'd have to go wherever she's assigned to serve her time, IMO.

All MOO.

Again I think that she would have trouble getting a working visa and medical licences at most reputable medical schools or boards with a criminal conviction. I know that reputable and CN don't really go together in a sentence but she isn't being charged with a speeding ticket. If convicted this will be a criminal charge on her record that she will have to disclose if asked. She will not be granted a student or working visa for the US ever if convicted.

 

[deugirtni]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
It was Noudga who wiped down the truck. She says Burns told her what parts she'd touched. #Bosma

....

Yes dear.. please be so kind as to wipe off the print that I left when I touched the truck, located 3" up from the bottom of the right rear well while facing the garage when you're looking toward the house from the street. Okay mum, will do! ;/ As if.

 

[mozzagirl]

When i was in school U of T was notorious for having exams extend into May - due to scheduling difficulties. I am not sure if that is/was true for York. It wasn't at other universities I attended.

When I went to university exams would be rescheduled but usually that was in the winter after a bad storm.

Even saying ok, yes, her exams were rescheduled. You take about 4 courses a semester. Three of those exams were postponed?!

 

[deugirtni]

Again I think that she would have trouble getting a working visa and medical licences at most reputable medical schools or boards with a criminal conviction. I know that reputable and CN don't really go together in a sentence but she isn't being charged with a speeding ticket. If convicted this will be a criminal charge on her record that she will have to disclose if asked. She will not be granted a student or working visa for the US ever if convicted.

I am not certain, but I believe these types of things can come back to haunt people even if they are NOT convicted. A whole lot of explaining to a whole lot of different people and entities may be in her future, either way. moo

 

[Inspector_North]

@mollyhayes#Noudga - the only 22 yr old on the planet who doesn't know a DVR from a stereo #Bosma

lol

And it was given to her the evening of the 9th. You know the timeframe 007 studied the events like a detective. She is obviously guilty of something. MOO

 

[flipflop]

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 14m14 minutes ago
Pillay cites more examples from #Millard's letters discussing loneliness and trauma of jail experience. "You knew he was suffering." "Yes."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 14m14 minutes ago
Pillay suggests his experience in jail was weighing heavily on him. She agrees. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 15m15 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
51 handwritten letters, approx 138 pages, were entered into evidence. Read them in full here: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilton/news/bosma-trial-noudga-testimony-1.3561968#letters … @CBCHamilton

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 15m15 minutes ago
Millard's experience in jail was weighing heavily on him, Noudga agrees. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 15m15 minutes ago
Sept. 14: "Waking up in a cell day after day is depressing," Millard writes. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 15m15 minutes ago
Pillay is taking Noudga through passages that show jail was weighing on Millard. "Day after day waking up in a cell is depressing."

You want to know what depressing is Pillay.......ask SB ! ! ! ! !
I'm not sure what Pillay is getting at with all of this.

Suffering.....really.....again go ask SB, she is the one suffering!

 

[mozzagirl]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
She got a lawyer after being with Madeleine Burns (Millard mother) for an entire weekend.

IMO, from what I know of MB, I'd get a lawyer after spending a weekend with her.

Wait..... she spent an entire weekend with her after DM's arrest?! What else did they get up to other than drinking wine in that time??

 

[brightii]

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 17m17 minutes ago
Del didn't choose his loyalties carefully pillay says. No. Noudga says. "He catered to MS" he supported him. And he was using drugs.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 17m17 minutes ago
"It was getting a bit excessive that he would have to constantly support someone and they were like using drugs."

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 17m17 minutes ago
She thought it was too much, especially with drugs involved, she believed milled should scale back. #Bosma

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 17m17 minutes ago
Noudga says #Millard would give #Smich odd jobs around hangar and home, pay for things, but MS was using drugs.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 17m17 minutes ago
Every time she saw Mark in evening he was drinking. Millard never expressed he thought it was out of control, says Noudga.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 17m17 minutes ago
Pillay suggests Dellen didn't like that. She says he never expressed that to her. #Bosma

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 18m18 minutes ago
"(#Smich) had a drinking problem didn't he?" asks Pillay. Noudga says "every time I'd see him in the evening he was drinking."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 18m18 minutes ago
Pillay is directing her to her police statement. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 17m17 minutes ago
"It gets annoying," she says, when someone is always trying to get drunk. Pillay suggests Millard was trying to help Smich stop drinking.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 12m12 minutes ago
"I just asked him and he answered and that was good enough for me." She may have been stoned at the time. She smoked every day or even more.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 12m12 minutes ago
They were smoking marijuana "more than once a day" and that may have impacted her memory as well, Noudga says

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 13m13 minutes ago
Now talking about eliminator.NOT important to her. Didn't know much about it. Didn't really ask. Was getting stoned "more than everyday"

These tweets are from today's testimony by CN. So according to DM and CN, MS was a drinker and doing drugs which really bothered DM and CN, but it was perfectly fine for DM and CN to use pot to get stoned "more than once a day"? What a pair DM and CN made, IMO.

All MOO

 

[mozzagirl]

What I really liked from today is that CN remembered enough to clarify that DM never told her the incinerator was for "burning metal" as that would be silly CN. Metal doesn't burn. Yet she remembered enough to know she wasn't sure of her pronoun on her phone call with MS. About whether we/he/i/they was the pronoun MS used.

Yet again her selective memory prevails.

Sorry sweetheart, I don't buy that you knew nothing and weren't knowingly involved.

All, MOO.

 

[JPC]

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 17m17 minutes ago
Del didn't choose his loyalties carefully pillay says. No. Noudga says. "He catered to MS" he supported him. And he was using drugs.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 17m17 minutes ago
"It was getting a bit excessive that he would have to constantly support someone and they were like using drugs."

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 17m17 minutes ago
She thought it was too much, especially with drugs involved, she believed milled should scale back. #Bosma

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 17m17 minutes ago
Noudga says #Millard would give #Smich odd jobs around hangar and home, pay for things, but MS was using drugs.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 17m17 minutes ago
Every time she saw Mark in evening he was drinking. Millard never expressed he thought it was out of control, says Noudga.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 17m17 minutes ago
Pillay suggests Dellen didn't like that. She says he never expressed that to her. #Bosma

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 18m18 minutes ago
"(#Smich) had a drinking problem didn't he?" asks Pillay. Noudga says "every time I'd see him in the evening he was drinking."

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 18m18 minutes ago
Pillay is directing her to her police statement. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 17m17 minutes ago
"It gets annoying," she says, when someone is always trying to get drunk. Pillay suggests Millard was trying to help Smich stop drinking.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 12m12 minutes ago
"I just asked him and he answered and that was good enough for me." She may have been stoned at the time. She smoked every day or even more.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 12m12 minutes ago
They were smoking marijuana "more than once a day" and that may have impacted her memory as well, Noudga says

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 13m13 minutes ago
Now talking about eliminator.NOT important to her. Didn't know much about it. Didn't really ask. Was getting stoned "more than everyday"

These tweets are from today's testimony by CN. So according to DM and CN, MS was a drinker and doing drugs which really bothered DM and CN, but it was perfectly fine for DM and CN to use pot to get stoned "more than once a day"? What a pair DM and CN made, IMO.

All MOO

Love this. So true