Bosma Murder Trial 05.04.16 - Day 45

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
She says she planned to go to school abroad and didn't want media and police "following" her there. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
I think she thought media would follow her abroad to wherever she planned to study and ask her questions about this case.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 8m8 minutes ago
Another note: "How long will media pursue?" She says she wants to go to school abroad.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 8m8 minutes ago
Noudga says she believed the media would follow her when she went to school abroad and would continue asking her questions about this case

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
Dungey goes back to BC trip plan. It was Millard's idea, she agrees. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 8m8 minutes ago
"It was more so with the surveillance and media following me abroad and then at school would they persist in asking me about this case?"

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
Was she thinking about getting out of the country to get away from this? Not at all, Noudga tells Dungey

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
He asks if her "leave country" note could mean she was thinking of fleeing to get away from this. "Not at all," she says. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 8m8 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Dungey asks if Noudga wanted to leave the country to study abroad, to get away from this? She answers, not at all. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 9m9 minutes ago
He says he's going to come back to that later. #Bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 9m9 minutes ago
"We were too distraught to watch media and look into it." Instead CN says she was worried DM wld look bad because of drugs. @AM900CHML

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 8m8 minutes ago
So Noudga claims she had no idea DM was arrested for Bosma. Didn't want to know. Didn't want to be dragged in. @AM900CHML

 

[brightii]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 5m5 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Noudga 'He never tried to frame anyone, in my opinion' tells the court #Bosma

But not even an hour ago she said this...

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 10m10 minutes ago
"He wasn't always talking about framing Mark," she says. #Bosma

So which is it CN?

CN uses the exact same language as DM: Dell's mess; Dell in jeopardy.

All MOO.

 

[MsSherlock]

Now that was an exciting morning. Interesting that she's maintaining that MB and her had so much self control that they didn't turn on the TV in their hotel room over that weekend- just didn't want to hear about it? Interesting position to take. MOO

 

[CJPRINCESS]

She also wrote "I will not talk, put Dell in jeopardy." She says she didn't want to give the police evidence about Millard using "drugs and things that would harm his character."
by Adam Carter

Humm. ..this is huge for MS side! Maybe MS didn't initiate getting the drugs but it was CN, so the drugs didn't tarnish DM'S character?!

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
Next. "Trailer wiped. My idea not mothers...not manipulative...she knew nothing. Might've screwed that up by staying with her." #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 8m8 minutes ago
Notes: "trailer, wiped...my idea not mother's..not manipulative...she knew nothing...might have screwed that up by staying with her."

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
"Knew why cannot say because now charged with withholding info. Not manipulative..." Noudga says she's talking about DM mom Burns

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
Noudga says her parents tried to tell her she was manipulated by Burns into wiping the trailer. But that's not what she believed. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
"It was a joint stupid mistake," she says. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
Noudga's parents thought she was being manipulated by Madeleine Burns when she wiped her prints from the trailer.

 

[mozzagirl]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 7m7 minutes ago
Another note: "letter of immunity - name will never go to the public. What happens with trailer?" #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
"letter of immunity" "name never goes public" "what happens to trailer?" Noudga is saying these were concerns

I don't know much about legal issues but to get immunity wouldn't you have to have info that the police need? She claims to know nothing about the murder so what was she going to offer up in exchange for immunity? Also immunity against what?

 

[SnooperDuper]

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 8m8 minutes ago
Noudga says her parents thought Millard's mom manipulated her into wiping prints off the trailer she didn't see it that way

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
Dungey suggests they were removing evidence. She says no, just wiping their prints. "It's called fingerprints mam'm, it's evidence."

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 8m8 minutes ago
She also says she didn't see the fingerprints as evidence

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 9m9 minutes ago
"At the time I didn't see it as evidence." We're talking about fingerprints! The whole court is laughing now.

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 9m9 minutes ago
Next note reads: "Trailer wipe: "My idea not mother's...not manipulative...might have screwed that up by staying with her." #MillardSmich

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 9m9 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
'We didn't remove evidence, we removed fingerprints' Noudga says. Courtroom literally LOLs #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 9m9 minutes ago
Noudga says parents concerned she was manipulated by Burns. She says was mutual decision. Noudga says the fingerprints were not evidence.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 9m9 minutes ago
She insists again it was not evidence. Laughs from courtroom. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 9m9 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Dungey: By wiping out your fingerprints, you were wiping away Dellen's fingerprints? Noudga: Unintentionally so #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 9m9 minutes ago
You weren't just wiping your fingerprints, you were wiping out Dellens. "Unintentionally so," Noudga says

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 9m9 minutes ago
"Fingerprints are evidence" Dungey says. "Not in this case" she counters. The gallery snickers. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 9m9 minutes ago
Dungey says fingerprints are evidence. Noudga: "But in this case they weren't." Courtroom laughs at her statement. #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 9m9 minutes ago
Dungey says again--by wiping her prints off locks, she also wiped his prints off. Right? She says "unintentionally so." #Bosma

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 9m9 minutes ago
Noudga says that was a reference to her parents trying to convince her she has been manipulated to do that. #MillardSmich

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 9m9 minutes ago
Wiping prints;" it was a joint stupid mistake. We didn't eliminate evidence. I didn't see it as evidence" noudga says to stunned crt.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 9m9 minutes ago
"WE both came to the conclusion we both touched the trailer," says Noudga of her and Burns. "Together, this was done.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 9m9 minutes ago
"We both came to the conclusion we both touched the trailer, we both decided to remove our prints." Selfish concerns entirely, she says

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 9m9 minutes ago
She says she wasn't concerned for Burns. "She was concerned for herself, I was concerned for myself, and together this was done." #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 9m9 minutes ago
Asked by Dungey wasn't she concerned she was wiping evidence of the trailer Noudga insists prints werent evidence in this case. Crowd groans

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 9m9 minutes ago
Dungey asks again--so you're concerned for your prints but you're not concerned for your bf, her son, who brought the truck there?

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 8m8 minutes ago
She insists no. Again she insists she didn't tamper with "his" evidence. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 9m9 minutes ago
Dungey says she knew fingerprints were evidence, that's why wanted to wipe them. Noudga says were concerned with their prints, not Dell's.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 9m9 minutes ago
Noudga was concerned about herself, Burns was concerned about herself, no one was concerned about Millard, she says. Court laughs again

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 9m9 minutes ago
His prints just happened to be where hers were, Dungey says. #Bosma

 

[Nosey Parker]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 8m8 minutes ago
"This is Dell's mess, not mine," Noudga says.

Another one calling this horrific crime a mess!

She is a female Melon!! MOO

It amazes me how these sociopath north/souths manage to find and recognise each other, and there have been so many caught in my lifetime. How many are out there, as yet unknown?

 

[SnooperDuper]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 9m9 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
The courtroom continues to laugh, out loud, at Christina Noudga as she insists she was only concerned with her prints, not Millard's

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 9m9 minutes ago
Dungee point out obvious removing your prints is tampering. "In this case they weren't" "I didn't tamper w his evidence" @AM900CHML

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 9m9 minutes ago
Noudga says she was not concerned with Millard's fingerprints on the trailer and she did not tamper with evidence. The gallery laughs.#Bosma

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 9m9 minutes ago
Noudga says she wasn't concerned with #Millard's prints or his mom's when she wipes prints. Then says she wiped his mom's off too.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 9m9 minutes ago
Courtroom laughs at Noudga's answer again. The idea that her and Millard's mom weren't concerned about Millard's prints.

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 9m9 minutes ago
U can imagine the reaction this is getting. @AM900CHML

 

[artemis17]

Im feeling some like love for Tom Dungey like the defense lawyers of Steve Avery type love. Making CN look like the clown she is.

 

[CJPRINCESS]

True, sorry, I was thinking about elements of the case itself being international.

Maybe the theft ring portion? That was my first thought. Again, BAJA being one of the covers for something.

 

[SnooperDuper]

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 9m9 minutes ago
She knew his prints were there. "They cannot prove it. No prints," she wrote. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 9m9 minutes ago
"They can't prove it because no prints," Noudga wrote. She realizes "at that time" she's also wiped Millard prints.

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 9m9 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
As the courtroom continues to laugh at Noudga, judge says 'Order please!' #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 9m9 minutes ago
"You were well aware...you wiped out his prints," says Dungey. Noudga says they wiped out their prints "which had Dell's prints on it."

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 9m9 minutes ago
"I wiped off my prints, I don't know where else he touched," says Noudga. Responding to note read by TD reading "cant prove if no prints"

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 9m9 minutes ago
Judge calls for order, to quell laughter in court gallery

 

[mozzagirl]

"We didn't remove any evidence, we just removed our touching the trailer," Noudga says. "At the time we didn't see it as evidence." Dungey asks why she would wipe that down if she didn't think it was evidence. She again says she didn't think it was evidence, and the court outright laughs at her response.
by Adam Carter 11:24 AM

Dungey says he's having a little trouble understanding how Noudga and Burns could be concerned about their fingerprints, but supposedly not Millard's.
by Adam Carter 11:25 AM

The courtroom just laughed at Noudga's response again.
by Adam Carter 11:25 AM

"I wiped off my prints, I don't know where else he touched," Noudga says. In her notes she wrote, "they cannot prove it because no prints."
by Adam Carter 11:26 AM

Court again laughs at Noudga. Justice Goodman calls for order.
by Adam Carter 11:27 AM

Oh boy. Laughing in court is not ok but I am glad she is being laughed at for her stupidity.

 

[Jug Up]

What is it with this crew? Another one in the Loser Brigade referring to the horrific murder of an innocent father and husband as a "mess."

I'm really starting to think she has a lot more to do with this than she is telling (i.e. the "lol mission digestion" text). A LOT more.

I also think she is starting to crack. Dungey is backing her into a corner, and it is starting to show in her answers. She may not open up, but I think she is going to show some emotion very shortly.

 

[SnooperDuper]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 9m9 minutes ago
Dungey reads another note: "do they know it was him who put the trailer at his mom's? They cannot prove it bc no prints." #Bosma

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 10m10 minutes ago
She says she didn't write it at the time of wiping it down. "Those were written in two different mental states." She says

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 9m9 minutes ago
"I didn't wipe out his evidence. I wiped out mine and later inevitably realized I'd wiped out his evidence as well," she insists. #Bosma

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 9m9 minutes ago
Noudga says "these (notes) were written under two mental states." #MillardSmich

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 9m9 minutes ago
Jury on recess. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 10m10 minutes ago Toronto, Ontario
Noudga: I wiped out my evidence, I didn't realized I inevitably wiped out his evidence #Bosma

 

[SnooperDuper]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 10m10 minutes ago
"I didn't wipe out the entire trailer," Noudga says with a cocky head move.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 10m10 minutes ago
Courtroom laughs again at her answers. Judge asks for order in the court.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 10m10 minutes ago
Taking the morning recess. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 10m10 minutes ago
Noudga: "I didn't wipe out his evidence. I wiped out my evidence. Later I realized I inevitably wiped out his evidence." #bosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 10m10 minutes ago
Huge laughter as noudga insists she didn't tamper w DM evidence. Only hers. And it's different. @AM900CHML

Mark Carcasole ‏@MarkCarcGlobal 10m10 minutes ago
#MillardSmich trial taking morning recess.