Bosma Murder Trial 05.18.16 - Day 51

[Velma]

Smich agrees that he said Millard said that the "friend" couldn't find Tim Horton's.
by Adam Carter 3:08 PM

Sachak says that Millard pretended to get the text, then drove North on Trinity Road, right onto Brook Road West, and then asked Smich to get out and into the SUV to follow them.
by Adam Carter 3:11 PM

"Didn't Mr. Bosma say, sir, there's no Tim Horton's there, what's your friend talking about?" Sachak says. Smich says he just got out of the vehicle and "took the hint."
by Adam Carter 3:12 PM

Smich writes on the map to show about where Bosma's truck stopped, just past the laneway where the Yukon was parked.
by Adam Carter 3:13 PM

"Do you see any kind of business establishment ... which would suggest to any normal person there would be a Tim Hortons there?" Sachak says. Smich says no, his friend said he was around the corner.
by Adam Carter 3:14 PM

Sachak suggests if this was Millard's cover story, it was "one pretty bad cover story."
by Adam Carter 3:15 PM

 

[Kamille]

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Vaughan, Ontario
Sachak done with hoodies and hands in pockets. Now talking through test drive. #Bosma #TimBosma

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 2m2 minutes ago
Millard's lawyer "There was no 3rd person there. Correct?" Smich "That's correct." #Bosma @CTVNews

Adam CarterVerified account ‏@AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Smich says Millard said he got a "fictitious text" from a friend who dropped them off. #TimBosma #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
On way out of driveway, Millard pretends to get a text from a friend. "It's a lie, Dell was lying," Sachak says. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
"That was a cover story to explain to the #Bosma family," Sachak says. Smich agrees that was Millard's cover story.

Pierce Lang ‏@piercelang_tv 1m1 minute ago Hamilton, Ontario
Now detailing the test drive with #Bosma and establishing the fake text and cover story. MS says he never discussed that plan with DM.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
He needed a cover story to explain why he didn't drive up to the house. Smich agrees. Millard told #Bosma, "my friend can't find Horton's"

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Millard says something like that his friend can't find the Tim Hortons. Smich agrees. #Bosma

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 2m2 minutes ago
Now on test drive. Dell makes up a story his friend can't find Tim Hortons. Smich says it wasn't part of plan. #Bosma @CTVNews

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Smich says maybe he really did get a text message, he's not sure what was going through Dell's head. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
He needed a cover story to explain why he didn't drive up to the house. Smich agrees. Millard told #Bosma, "my friend can't find Horton's"

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 4m4 minutes ago
Smich says there was no real third person with them. Dell was lying about that. It was a "cover story," says Sachak.

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 3m3 minutes ago
"I never knew he was going to say something like that," says Smich. Millard said something like: "My friend can't find Tim Hortons."


molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 37s38 seconds ago
Sachak again shows him the satellite map view of where the Yukon was parked. #Bosma

Susan ClairmontVerified account ‏@susanclairmont 46s46 seconds ago
Seeing aerial photo again. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Vaughan, Ontario
Sharlene Bosma looks straight at Mark Smich as he talks about the direction they travelled, during the text drive #Bosma #TimBosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 59s59 seconds ago
Sachak says again, Millard says he got this text, drives north on Trinity. Then turns right into Book where he drops Smich off. #Bosma

Adam CarterVerified account ‏@AdamCarterCBC 51s51 seconds ago
Sachak says that Millard pretended to get the text, then drove North on Trinity Road ... #TimBosma #Bosma

Adam CarterVerified account ‏@AdamCarterCBC 1m1 minute ago
...right onto Brook Road West, and then asked Smich to get out and into the SUV to follow them. #TImBosma #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
After the fake message, Millard went north on Trinity Rd and turned right on Book, and tells Smich to follow in Yukon. #TimBosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Smich says Millard does not turn into laneway. He stays on the road, facing east on Book. He agrees Millard asked him to follow in the Yukon

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Millard says friend is parked around corner. Heads north on Trinity, turns right on Book. Drops Smich off to follow in Yukon, Smich says.

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Sachak asks if #Bosma said "there's no Tim Hortons there, what's your friend talking about?" Smich says no he just took the hint and got out

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Didn't Mr #Bosma say there's no Tim Horton's there, what is your friend doing? Sachak asks

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 1m1 minute ago
Millard's lawyer "Did Mr. #Bosma say, there is no tim horton's there..." Smich "I just took the hint and got out." @CTVNews

Adam CarterVerified account ‏@AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
"Didn't Mr. Bosma say, sir, there's no Tim Horton's there, what's your friend talking about?" Sachak says. #TimBosma #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Didn't Mr. Bosma say, there's no Tim Hortons there. What's your friend talking about? It's a field, says Sachak.

Adam CarterVerified account ‏@AdamCarterCBC 1m1 minute ago
Smich says he just got out of the vehicle and "took the hint." #TimBosma #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 1m1 minute ago Vaughan, Ontario
Sachak: Did Mr. Bosma say, sir there's no Tim Hortons here? Smich says he got out of the truck quickly, took the hint. #Bosma #TimBosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Smich marks on the map where Millard stopped the #Bosma truck, just slightly past the laneway.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
Millard kept the #TimBosma truck on Book Road

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
The story had been, Smich says, that the friend was parked around the corner (after not being able to find Tim Hortons). #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Sachak asks if Smich sees any sort of business or strip mall or any industrial area to suggest there's a Tim Hortons there. #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Smich says no, he said the friend couldn't find Tim Hortons and so was around the corner. #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
Didn't Mr. #Bosma, a rational functioning man, say buddy, what kind of friend have you got, there's no Tim Hortons in the field?

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 1m1 minute ago
Millard's lawyer "Was there any conversation with Mr. Bosma?" Smich "No there was only a direction..." #Bosma @CTVNews

Adam CarterVerified account ‏@AdamCarterCBC 1m1 minute ago
"...a Tim Hortons there?" Sachak says. Smich says no, his friend said he was around the corner. #TimBosm #Bosma


***Nice try Sachak. It's despicable to put words into TB's mouth IMO

 

[JuneBug67]

Sachak deliberately misunderstanding Smich's explanation. Lame.

 

[Velma]

Sachak again asking if Smich asked any questions about where the car was. Smich says he got out and proceeded to the other car.
by Adam Carter 3:16 PM

Sachak says there was never a conversation about a friend being lost and looking for Tim Hortons and Millard asking him to get out. "That did not happen." Sachak says.
by Adam Carter 3:17 PM

Now taking the afternoon recess. Back in 20 mins.
by Adam Carter 3:17 PM

 

[canadiangirl]

Smich agrees that he said Millard said that the "friend" couldn't find Tim Horton's.
by Adam Carter 3:08 PM

Sachak says that Millard pretended to get the text, then drove North on Trinity Road, right onto Brook Road West, and then asked Smich to get out and into the SUV to follow them.
by Adam Carter 3:11 PM

"Didn't Mr. Bosma say, sir, there's no Tim Horton's there, what's your friend talking about?" Sachak says. Smich says he just got out of the vehicle and "took the hint."
by Adam Carter 3:12 PM

Smich writes on the map to show about where Bosma's truck stopped, just past the laneway where the Yukon was parked.
by Adam Carter 3:13 PM

"Do you see any kind of business establishment ... which would suggest to any normal person there would be a Tim Hortons there?" Sachak says. Smich says no, his friend said he was around the corner.by Adam Carter 3:14 PM

Sachak suggests if this was Millard's cover story, it was "one pretty bad cover story."
by Adam Carter 3:15 PM

BBM
I'm pretty sure we've all asked this same question here a million times on how this went over with Tim IMO

 

[sleuther76]

There actually is a Tim Hortons right around the corner from Tim's house

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Sup...f0b46abcaa4fb4!2m2!1d-80.0203562!2d43.1963382

 

[Jug Up]

I am thinking Smich better have his lies - er, his version - in order, because he is about to get tested. If NS is smart, he will try to get all his questions in today, so MS doesn't have a chance to sleep on his answers.

 

[Kamille]

Adam CarterVerified account ‏@AdamCarterCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Sachak suggests if this was Millard's cover story, it was "one pretty bad cover story." #TimBosma #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Vaughan, Ontario
Sachak keeps asking what Mr. Bosma was saying at this point. #Bosma #TimBosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
He asks again if Mr #Bosma did not express confusion about the friend looking for Tim Hortons yet being parked in the field.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
"He wasn't parked in a field, it was a dirt driveway," Smich says. Sachak says #Bosma must have thought it weird the Yukon was parked there

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Smich says he got out of the vehicle and proceeded to the other car. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Vaughan, Ontario
Smich says he just got out of the vehicle as quickly as possible. #Bosma #TimBosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Sachak suggests there was never a conversation about a friend being lost, looking for Tim Hortons, asking him to get out. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Vaughan, Ontario
Sachak says there was never a conversation about Smich getting out of the truck. #Bosma #TimBosma

Peter Akman ‏@PeterAkmanCTV 2m2 minutes ago
Millard's lawyer "Sir, there was never a conversation about a friend lost... and Dell asking you to get out." Smich "Yes it did." #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
"That did not happen," Sachak says. Smich disagrees. #Bosma

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
Taking the afternoon recess. #Bosma

Shannon Martin ‏@ShannonMartinTV 2m2 minutes ago Vaughan, Ontario
Afternoon recess. Back in 20 minutes. #Bosma #TimBosma

 

[cckp72]

Why do they have to have break JUST when it starts to get more interesting. Yeesh!

 

[Jug Up]

There actually is a Tim Hortons right around the corner from Tim's house

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Sup...f0b46abcaa4fb4!2m2!1d-80.0203562!2d43.1963382

It isn't really "around the corner" and nowhere near Trinity and Book. MS says DM went north on Trinity and then turned right on Book, unless I am reading it wrong.

 

[ADAWG]

The truck not pulling into the field and waiting on the road is starting to make sense. Tim would have no idea which side of the car Smich got into and when they were driving likely only saw the blue Yukon trailing behind and not the number of passengers.

 

[Kamille]

It isn't really "around the corner" and nowhere near Trinity and Book. MS says DM went north on Trinity and then turned right on Book, unless I am reading it wrong.

MS said that DM got a text from his friend that they couldn't find it and that they were parked around the corner.

Nothing at all like what Sachak is trying to pass off as a bad story. Trying to confuse the story and the jury. It was a perfectly good story, even if not true.

To try to discount it this way shows that it probably was the truth and that DM was most likely the only person in the vehicle with TB when he was shot.

MOO

 

[cansleuther]

Does anyone recall if SB or WDB mentioned in their testimony that the "sketchy" guy pet TB's dog? Was it even mentioned if TB's dog was outside at the time?

 

[Kamille]

The truck not pulling into the field and waiting on the road is starting to make sense. Tim would have no idea which side of the car Smich got into and when they were driving likely only saw the blue Yukon trailing behind and not the number of passengers.

According to MS, they pulled up to the Yukon, MS got out, and then DM did a U turn. How does that figure in?

 

[JuneBug67]

The truck not pulling into the field and waiting on the road is starting to make sense. Tim would have no idea which side of the car Smich got into and when they were driving likely only saw the blue Yukon trailing behind and not the number of passengers.

You have to wonder then what the witness who described two vehicles pulling out his dad's field saw. The brain can fill in information and shape memories, but as Smich tells it he only could have seen the Yukon pulling out.

 

[ADAWG]

According to MS, they pulled up to the Yukon, MS got out, and then DM did a U turn. How does that figure in?

molly hayesVerified account ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Smich marks on the map where Millard stopped the #Bosma truck, just slightly past the laneway.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 3m3 minutes ago
Millard kept the #TimBosma truck on Book Road

 

[deugirtni]

Well, we got the answer about no trail from his phone. It's because his SIM cards had all conveniently disappeared. JMO

Isn't it possible that one phone was replaced by another phone, at which time the sim card from the first phone would be inserted into the second phone, and etc? Just because a person gets a new phone doesn't mean they necessarily get a new number/sim card. If the phone had been damaged or he just wanted a new phone for whatever reason, same sim card can be used. Also, when putting a phone out of use, one might want to dispose of the sim card to ensure no further billing activity can occur? Just a thought. moo

 

[Jug Up]

The truck not pulling into the field and waiting on the road is starting to make sense. Tim would have no idea which side of the car Smich got into and when they were driving likely only saw the blue Yukon trailing behind and not the number of passengers.

Yeah, it makes a little more sense now, especially if the truck was in the laneway and TB could see it (as opposed to being in the field).

Then again, did Bullmann not say he saw two trucks (one Tim's, one SUV) coming out of the laneway or the field from his father's property? Why would DM back up Tim's truck into the laneway instead of during a U-turn, or 3-point turn, on Book to head back out towards Trinity?

 

[Kamille]

You have to wonder then what the witness who described two vehicles pulling out his dad's field saw. The brain can fill in information and shape memories, but as Smich tells it he only could have seen the Yukon pulling out.

Was he ever asked if the chain was on the driveway? They wouldn't have gotten too far up the drive into the field if it was.

MOO

 

[Jug Up]

You have to wonder then what the witness who described two vehicles pulling out his dad's field saw. The brain can fill in information and shape memories, but as Smich tells it he only could have seen the Yukon pulling out.

We posted the same thing almost at the same time.