Bosma Murder Trial 06.10.16 - Day 59 - Charge to jury

[ILoveDateline]

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 43s43 seconds ago
Also issue of identity and opportunity. Then involvement, intent, motive. Or may rebut defence being advanced.

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 50s50 seconds ago
Goodman says they can use this evidence in certain ways. It was admitted to provide context, and to shed light on possible motive. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 52s52 seconds ago
So how can you use this evidence? First must decide if you accept some, all or none. Then, use it to decide context.

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 1m1 minute ago
"How can you use this evidence?" Goodman asks, answering his own question by saying it provides context, identity, intent and motive. #Bosma

 

[Georgeo]

Judge is certainly covering all the bases with his charge to jury. Can't see how any of the lawyers or accused could find error in this judge's instructions!

 

[Kamille]

Goodman says they can use this evidence in certain ways. It was admitted to provide context, and to shed light on possible motive.
by Adam Carter 12:07 PM

Goodman says this may seem confusing at first, but he hopes it isn't.
by Adam Carter 12:08 PM

 

[ILoveDateline]

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 24s24 seconds ago
Goodman says it may also rebut the defence being advanced. #TimBosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 25s25 seconds ago
"No one can be convicted on the basis they are the sort of person who would commit this offence." — Justice Andrew Goodman #Bosma

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 28s28 seconds ago
Goodman says this may seem confusing at first, but he hopes it isn't. #TimBosma #Bosma

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 31s31 seconds ago
This all may seem confusing, but it's quite logical, judge assures jury. #TimBosma

 

[Kamille]

Goodman's now moving to expert opinion evidence.
by Adam Carter 12:09 PM

 

[ILoveDateline]

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 10s10 seconds ago
Goodman says he'll be another 15 minutes. "I appreciate this is a lot of information," he tells jurors. #TimBosma

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 15s15 seconds ago
Goodman's now moving to expert opinion evidence. #TimBosma #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 20s20 seconds ago
Cannot use Smich's evidence to consider if Millard is a person likely to commit murder. Can only use it to evaluate Smich. Vice verse.

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
No one, he says, should be convicted because they are perceived to be the kind of person who'd commit an offence. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 2m2 minutes ago
"This may at first seem confusing to you," Goodman tells them. "I hope it's not."

 

[ILoveDateline]

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 19s19 seconds ago
Goodman now talking about expert witnesses, noting there were 16 people who testified that were qualified as experts by the court. #Bosma

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 32s32 seconds ago
There were 16 expert witnesses in this trial, Goodman says. #Bosma

Adam Carter ‏@AdamCarterCBC 33s33 seconds ago
16 witnesses were qualified as experts in this case. #TImBosma #Bosma

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 39s39 seconds ago
16 witnesses called as experts at #Bosma trial.

 

[THXGuru]

Sounds like the judge wants a"not guily" verdict based on his instructions so far.

 

[Kamille]

16 witnesses were qualified as experts in this case.
by Adam Carter 12:10 PM

He's now listing them all.
by Adam Carter 12:11 PM

 

[ILoveDateline]

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 23s23 seconds ago
An expert testified about the pre-paid cell phone used to contact #TimBosma, & 2 others for test drives. Gave interpretation of records

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 33s33 seconds ago
Many of the experts are police, forensic or cell phone witnesses.

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 1m1 minute ago
An expert testified that Millard's fingerprint was found on the rear view mirror of the #Bosma truck. No one disputed the evidence.

 

[ILoveDateline]

Sounds like the judge wants a"not guily" verdict based on his instructions so far.

He is advising them of the law and what can legally be considered in order for a fair trial. If he was crafting his guidance in favour of one decision over another, that would be grounds for a mistrial.

 

[ILoveDateline]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 1m1 minute ago
Fingerprint on truck mirror, cell tower 'ping' records, text message extractions, computer data...

Susan Clairmont ‏@susanclairmont 1m1 minute ago
Fingerprints, cell tower maps, recovery of text messages...

Colin Butler ‏@ColinButlerCBC 2m2 minutes ago
Most of the experts are police, forensic or technical specialists dealing with cell phone or computers, Goodman notes. #TimBosma

Alex Pierson ‏@AlexpiersonAMP 2m2 minutes ago
jury reminded DM not on trial for breaching crt orders. Sending letters can be used to decide state of mind. @AM900CHML

Lisa Hepfner ‏@HefCHCHNews 2m2 minutes ago
Judge is going over some of the "expert" testimony we've heard since Feb 1. #TimBosma

 

[ILoveDateline]

molly hayes ‏@mollyhayes 26s27 seconds ago
She said bones found inside appeared to be human, from a man <40. That opnion went unchallenged, Goodman says. #Bosma

Colin Butler &#8207;@ColinButlerCBC 43s44 seconds ago
Goodman now talking about the bones and ash found in the Eliminator, that the incinerator had been cleaned out and the remains were human.

Lisa Hepfner &#8207;@HefCHCHNews 50s51 seconds ago
An expert testified that the Eliminator had been cleaned out after a human body was burned. #TimBosma A male under 40.

molly hayes &#8207;@mollyhayes 56s57 seconds ago
Tracy Rogers, forensic anthropologist, testified that the Eliminator appeared to have been cleaned out. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 59s60 seconds ago
Another expert was Tracy Rogers, the forensic anthropologist who crawled inside the Eliminator to remove bits of bone and dust.

Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 2m2 minutes ago
Judge reminds jury cell phone can stop pinging from towers if: it's powered down; battery is removed; SIM card removed.

 

[ILoveDateline]

molly hayes &#8207;@mollyhayes 19s19 seconds ago
Dr. John Fernandes, forensic pathologist, also conducted an investigation into the remains--the total weight of which was 503 g. #Bosma

Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 20s20 seconds ago
...did post mortem. 503 grams of bone, ash recovered. That was all. He could not opine on cause of death.

Colin Butler &#8207;@ColinButlerCBC 31s31 seconds ago
The skeleton was male, under 40 and there was not enough to constitute a full person's bones, Goodman notes she was unchallenged.

Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 59s59 seconds ago
Forensic dentist who examined partial tooth found in Eliminator. Could only say it was human. Dr. John Fernandes, forensic pathologist...

 

[DeepWoodsOff]

Or, TD decided that he wouldn't recall BD as he knew some of the testimony would be disputed by BD, therefore no point to it. TD certainly gave the impression he was vigorously defending MS, but if he knew MS's testimony would be disputed..... at least TD can't be blamed for not appearing to defend his client from outward appearances.

moo

That is actually how I interpreted it....instructing the jury to consider why the Defense lawyer corroborated certain parts of the story with witnesses while not doing the same with other witnesses. Did he not ask the questions to certain people because he knew it would work against his defense? That was how I read it. MOO

 

[ILoveDateline]

Colin Butler &#8207;@ColinButlerCBC 24s24 seconds ago
The bones and ash weighed only 503g and experts presumed they belong to #TimBosma since there was no DNA left to identify.

molly hayes &#8207;@mollyhayes 29s29 seconds ago
James Sloots, a CFS forensic biologist, did a DNA analysis on numerous items. #Bosma

Adam Carter &#8207;@AdamCarterCBC 46s46 seconds ago
He's talking about all their evidence like Dr. Tracy Rogers finding bones in The Eliminator consistent with a man around 40 years old #Bosma

Susan Clairmont &#8207;@susanclairmont 52s52 seconds ago
James Sloots, forensic biologist from Centre of Forensic Sciences did DNA analysis.

 

[MrsThreadgoode]

Are the lawyers present for this charge? Accused? And is the public including the family and friends in the courtroom today?

Sorry if this has already been answered. Yes, all will be there.


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[Kamille]

He's talking about all their evidence, like Dr. Tracy Rogers finding bones in The Eliminator consistent with a man around 40 years old.
by Adam Carter 12:17 PM

Goodman also talking about the DNA evidence. He says it's "safe to say no one else on this planet" could have been the source the the DNA talked about at trial.
by Adam Carter 12:18 PM

 

[canadiangirl]

Sounds like the judge wants a"not guily" verdict based on his instructions so far.

I take his explicit instructions to mean he wants to ensure there are no grounds for appeal later.

 

[JuneBug67]

You added a 10 km loop on Book Rd that contradicts Smich's own testimony. From Molly Hayes's tweets:

• Smich says he pulls out of laneway [farmer field], making a left (westbound) onto Book Rd and follows.
• Both vehicles then make a right on Trinity Rd. First the truck (driven by Millard), with Smich driving Yukon behind.

Your scenario also assumes the additional video sightings were not Bosma's truck. It also assumes the Super Sucker video is exactly 3 hours out from the cell towers given the time they arrived in Bosma's driveway. In a previous post I explained why I believe all of this is unlikely.

Yes, the post assumed the additional truck sightings were not Tim's. As I said the post was intended to generally match Smich's account, deviating only to include the testimony from Bullman that claimed they continued west on Book. The post also does not assume SS video is only 3 hours out because in my post the SS time it is relative only to itself. I attempted to explain 34 minutes between Yukon sightings on the SS video in a way that might fit selective evidence supporting MS's claim. It is not the only or the best hypothesis, but it's one that would work. Every interpretation of the timeline evidence in this case is selective in some way.