Brainstorming Ron's flurry of phone calls

[dodie20]

My thinking was that PDM either already knew something incriminating, (such as the flurry of phone calls), or they caught Ron in a bald faced lie, during an interview. If they did catch a lie, they probably tried to contact him, & he refused a meeting. Ronald showed no hestitations in getting on with his life-marraige, trips, tattoos, fairs, etc...but for some reason, getting on with his life, didn't include going back to work. & I can't help but wonder why. I've also wondered what kind of reference PDM would've given him if he had applied somewhere else. things that make you go, hmmmmmm.

 

[bessie]

This is something that *may* have to do with your statement or not. I'm by no means a cellular phone expert, lol. But several years ago during some talk about 911 calls and cell phones, I'd heard the most important thing was to let them know your location first because a call made from a cell phone will go through the first available cellular exchange, which may not necessarily be the closest. This was several years ago, I'm thinking before the whole E911 thing.

It also made me think of the days of the hurricanes when everyone was trying to use their cell phone and you couldn't get through because there were too many people trying to use too few towers. The service would try several in the area before telling you your call couldn't go through. So when he made a call would that mean that because that was the tower it pinged off of , it was the tower he was closest too? Or that it was the one that happened to "pick up" the call he was making/trying to make at the time? Weren't they both close enough so that really it could have been either one would have worked either time?

The cell site that receives the strongest signal will pick it up. The cell site with the the strongest reading will be one close to the phone, but not necessarily the one closest to the phone. Other factors besides distance determine signal strength. So the bolded part is correct. Here's a link that explains everything you want to know about cell phone transmissions. Warning: it's not light reading. Interesting info, but very technical.
http://privateline.com/mt_cellbasics/

Will a cell phone send a signal if the battery is dead? I seem to recall from the Casey Anthony case that a battery too weak to power components needed to exchange sound data/speech might still retain enough juice to ping a tower. To be absolutely certain that one is not pinging the battery would have to be removed. There is much discussion about cell phones in the Caylee Anthony forum. Great information provided by tech savvy members is in the threads if anyone wants to venture a search.

OT: Those hurricane cell phone nightmares Ugh!

 

[pittsburghgirl]

maybe Ron told her to turn the phone off, to avoid pings & missed calls. Also, we don't know what times these calls were coming in. Maybe they were made before anything haappened. Maybe her not answering made him mad enough to leave work & check on her & THEN whatever happened, happened, & then the cover-up. I've always been very suspicious of his job's reaction to this. They've been very tight lipped & unsympathetic towards Ron. As far as I know, the other employees haven't spoken up in his defense, & then PDM unceremoniously, but very legally, fired him. & if I'm not mistaken, they even hired extra security after the firing. Where were the donations, the benefits, the compassion for a grieving father? No, I take their reaction as a very bad sign for Ron. They either know or highly suspect something incriminating, so they immediately distanced themselves from him-they got out while the gettin' was good.

I don't know anything about Ron's employer, so I really can't comment on that, other than to say that there are many reasons a company might distance itself from such a continually tawdry story (the constant rumors about RC's drug use, for one). I don't think, however, that it would make sense for Ron to tell Misty not to pick up the phone and then proceed to call "over 20 times"). Clearly, she didn't want to talk to him or she didn't want to talk to ANYONE or she couldn't talk because she was otherwise engaged. Take your pick. But he was trying to contact her. So for me, any theory has to account for the conflict between the two of them.

 

[Whisperer]

I believe rc called his mother. We know that TN called misty and begged her to watch the children; she even offered to pay her to babysit. Misty's reponse (according to TN) was she would do it, if it were ok with RC. WTH? She'll do it if it is ok with ron!!!! RC and misty (according to tn) were together Sunday night all through Monday. Misty says rc picked up Haliegh, came in and kissed haleigh, jr, and misty goodbye and left for work.

TN also tells us rc picked up Haliegh and left for work shortly after dropping her off.

Ron tell us even less. He picked her up and she "loved' on him and told him she would see him when got home....another WTH moment.

Is it possible rc left for work and left the children unattended while he was trying to find somebody to babysit? Was GMA sent over by tn to check on the kids because TN lived nowhere nearby? Was rc calling everybody wanting to know where misty was? Wanting to know if she was there or took them somewhere? TN,RC or MC all seem to have problems with the story. GMA's story at this point seems questinable also.

 

[doobiedoo52]

Didn't Kimball and Snyder say they referred him to another lawyer who had experience in unlawful dismissal cases or something? I haven't heard that anything ever came of it. Wonder if he ever contacted another lawyer or if it was just PR.

In my opinion, the whole PDM announcement was approved by LE to keep information from being released that he was fired back when Haleigh disappeared. Let him "save face" so to speak and allow PCSO to go on with their investigation -- just like warning the employees not to talk. He would not risk a lawsuit and it was all PR by K & S. JMO

 

[dodie20]

In my opinion, the whole PDM announcement was approved by LE to keep information from being released that he was fired back when Haleigh disappeared. Let him "save face" so to speak and allow PCSO to go on with their investigation -- just like warning the employees not to talk. He would not risk a lawsuit and it was all PR by K & S. JMO

I don't know...it's hard imagining a company lieing-even with LE's approval. I think they would've preferred to say nothing over lieing. Plus, Ron used his job status not only for an alibi, but also to 'prove' that he was just a regular, hard working guy, who was ambushed with this tragedy. If he had been fired that night, or soon after, I think PDM would've been clear with that-or not said anything. My impression @ the time, was that PDM wanted him gone & found a legal way to get rid of him. which brings us to the extra security...to me, that says, 'we're done with your sorry azz'.

 

[4Jacy]

FL is a "right to work State", that means they can fire you without cause. He was new and may have been on 90 day probation. He didn't return and they don't have anything in writing from him giving them a clue as to when he was coming back. I don't think he had a case. JMO I am not a lawyer, but if there was one, you can bet your bottom dollar a lawyer would have jumped on it.

Bern, I agree with you and they probably wanted to distance themselves from him. But I have this feeling that RC thought there was going to be BIG MONEY involved in this case. I don't think RC wanted to go back to work.

 

[txsvicki]

Since Ron is known by past charges to have had drugs and now caught buying, selling, and said to be using I wonder if the flurry of calls could have been arguing plus Ron wanting Misty to go on a drug run or bring him some to use at work during his evening break if he didn't know he'd be working overtime when he first went in. I'd think Misty would have told that scenario by now if Ron had convinced her to leave the children alone, but it might be possible.

 

[LillieBelle]

& why didn't Ron pursue a lawsuit against PDM? I'm sure he could've used his job back, the back pay, or a settlement. As a matter of principle, why didn't he argue that being fired was a hardship & that it sullied his reputation? maybe he was scared of PDM's, testimony?

I remember reading at first that co workers were donating their vacation time to Ron so he could be off to help find his "heart". I think they all realized at some point that they were being "taken for a ride"...

 

[4Jacy]

I remember reading at first that co workers were donating their vacation time to Ron so he could be off to help find his "heart". I think they all realized at some point that they were being "taken for a ride"...

Well, LB, that really breaks my "heart". These people, who volunterred their vacation time so Ronald could search for Haleigh, well that is over the top. These wonderful people could have spent their vacs with family or friends and I feel very bad for them. However, in the long run, they will know that THEY did the right thing, and they did it from love and from their hearts. God bless those wonderful people.

 

[ilovemew]

Hi mew, I've heard it said a number of times that a cell phone without service can dial 911 with a charged battery. The 911 call will go to the nearest cell tower of any carrier.

Can the phone ping a tower with no bars? I'm going to say no but I'm not an expert at it.

My phone gets no service at my dad's apt. and when I try to use it it does say for emergency calls only so I'm thinking yes dialing 911 w/out service would work. At least mine does

 

[SoSueMe]

maybe Ron told her to turn the phone off, to avoid pings & missed calls. Also, we don't know what times these calls were coming in. Maybe they were made before anything haappened. Maybe her not answering made him mad enough to leave work & check on her & THEN whatever happened, happened, & then the cover-up. I've always been very suspicious of his job's reaction to this. They've been very tight lipped & unsympathetic towards Ron. As far as I know, the other employees haven't spoken up in his defense, & then PDM unceremoniously, but very legally, fired him. & if I'm not mistaken, they even hired extra security after the firing. Where were the donations, the benefits, the compassion for a grieving father? No, I take their reaction as a very bad sign for Ron. They either know or highly suspect something incriminating, so they immediately distanced themselves from him-they got out while the gettin' was good.

You bring up a very good point Dodie. Why would PDM tell their employees not to discuss RC, his work hours or that night? To confirm that he was at work, either through fellow employees or the company, would only help a grieving father, wouldn't it? Why would they tell everyone to zip it?

Before anyone says it was confirmed that RC was at work that night, the hours RC was at work has never been confirmed by anyone to my knowledge.

In order to stay on topic, I will say that if RC was at work that whole night, surely someone would have seen him on the phone making some 90 calls.

 

[Donjeta]

Good point. If he was accounted for throughout the night by his coworkers, somebody must have seen him hanging onto his phone like a lifeline and likely someone was nosy enough to ask him why.

I wonder if LE told PDM to tell their workers to zip it or if it was the PDM directors themselves.

 

[Becky319]

I think Ron was running a crane, it is possible that when you are in the cab you are high enough that no one would see a cell phone to your ear, then again he could have had it on speaker sitting in his lap so no one could see.

 

[dodie20]

Good point. If he was accounted for throughout the night by his coworkers, somebody must have seen him hanging onto his phone like a lifeline and likely someone was nosy enough to ask him why.

I wonder if LE told PDM to tell their workers to zip it or if it was the PDM directors themselves.

I would guessthat LE told them to zip it-but why???

 

[SoSueMe]

Good point. If he was accounted for throughout the night by his coworkers, somebody must have seen him hanging onto his phone like a lifeline and likely someone was nosy enough to ask him why.

I wonder if LE told PDM to tell their workers to zip it or if it was the PDM directors themselves.

I have no idea, but if I had to guess, I would guess LE told PDM not to give any information out. PDM then told their employees. How many times in a case have we seen a workplace verifying someone was at work? I think we've seen it a lot. OMO

 

[lonetraveler]

Bern, I agree with you and they probably wanted to distance themselves from him. But I have this feeling that RC thought there was going to be BIG MONEY involved in this case. I don't think RC wanted to go back to work.

Bolded by me: I totally agree with you on this comment.

 

[lil momma]

I think that IF what Ron told LE about his work hours were true and it was confirmed that he was there and accounted for the whole shift, then LE would have cleared him right off the bat, but they haven't, and that speaks volume to me.

The phones calls, what 90? That is just crazy, i don't think i get that many calls with work and cell combined in one day, let alone in a matter of a few hours. I am thinking that Ron had to know what Misty was up to during that time. Why is the question. What was so important that Ron had to know starting at approx. 8:30pm. Where were those 90 calls pinging from? JMO

 

[snowshuze]

I feel that since PDM has refused to discuss ANYTHING, there's something important to the investigation under wraps.

MOO and stuff.

 

[Beatrice]

Bern, I agree with you and they probably wanted to distance themselves from him. But I have this feeling that RC thought there was going to be BIG MONEY involved in this case. I don't think RC wanted to go back to work.

I just always "felt" Misty was keeping up on Caylee/Casey Anthony....
She's reminding me of Casey in the jail tapes.
NG is on at 8pm, 10 pm and 1am here in Florida.
I thought maybe Misty thought there was big money in this....
Funny, how the reward money was 35k and Ronald could get Haleigh back for...35k. JMO.